true or false: college graduates make better parents

Philippines
February 7, 2009 9:00am CST
my parents have always valued education. they have invested a lot in my education, always urging me to study hard and do my best in school. whenever i see parents mistreating their kids, my own parents would explain it as a lack of education on the side of the parents. they say that education gives you knowledge about how to rear children the right way. when we go to restaurants with really bad service, my parents would sometimes wonder if this or that waiter has had any degree of education. now, i'm beginning to wonder if education does have a role to play when it comes to rearing children. i know that not all educated parents are good parents, but i wonder: will college graduates fare better as parents than people with a lower level of education?
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
I don't think this is true. One thing parenting and rearing children is not taught in the university or is not one of the subjects in college. I would always believe good parenting is something that you learn from your parents. If you were rear to be a good person and seeing how your parents raised you, when you become a parent yourself you try to see the weaknesses and strengthen of the parenting style of your parents and you follow the good ones and try not to repeat the not so good ones. I know of some well educated people where they were not able to imbue good traits and attitude to their kids. Being a good parents doesn't only mean you can well provide your kids like the materials stuff but being a good parent takes emotional, spiritual, psychological, physical and mental wellness to your kids.
@donsky14 (5947)
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
I have to disagree with that. Not all college graduate turns out to be better parents. Parenting is not something that you could actually learn in school. Its about nurturing and taking care of a child, its instinct. And I think its totally unfair to say that under grads cant take care of their child.
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• Philippines
7 Feb 09
i agree. but i believe my question was misunderstood, so let me rephrase: will an uneducated person, after getting some education, become a better parent? i'm not looking for an overgeneralization where all people with a lower level of education are labeled as bad parents; i just want to know if people think that getting an education will improve the parenting performance of people who have not had any higher education. :) that said, of course undergrads can take care of their children. but i feel the urge to say that, in my years of practice, i have seen uneducated parents attempt to cure festering wounds of their children on their own, leading to sepsis and shock; i have seen misinformation at its worst, leading to health risks. when i say bad parenting, i am not only referring to the kindness of parents; i am also referring to their capacity to decide when it comes to, say, health problems. i have had a patient who came in because of septic shock. the patient is only about a week old. the mother was an elementary graduate and believed that putting a coin on her newborn's umbilical stump will prevent an umbilical hernia. this was what i was thinking of when i said bad parenting... a lot of good intentions, but filled with misinformation from lack of education. again, i have to clarify: it wasn't me who said education makes bad parents... it was my parents. hehe.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
7 Feb 09
I would say that, the person you are refering to is an example of someone who had a bad upbringing. It seem s like this person was not only un-educated but probably not all the inteligent period. This could be because their own parents never taught them these things, and the never bothered to pick up a book and try to teach their selves anything.
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
true, that. perhaps they did not get any education. and by education, i don't mean merely school education; maybe at home there is no education at all. :) thanks and happy myLotting!
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
I think education is a factor that makes parents good in terms of parenting... but that is not actually the end all of things... i had co-teachers who have master's degree... but they act and treat people like they are dirt... i also met parents who did not finish their highschool education... but are deserving of the parent of the year award...
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
that's true, it plays a part, but it's not the only thing that matters. i have also seen educated people mistreat their children. i also see loving, caring parents who do not know how to care for their kids, who do not seek medical attention despite grave illnesses, simply because they have not learned anywhere about what to do in these situations. a lot of factors are at play. thanks for posting!
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
7 Feb 09
I have been a successful businessman for 60 years. ( I have a Grade 8 education) One of my best employees, a single woman with 6 kids decided to upgrade her life style, go to University and become a Lawyer. She finished her first year with good marks, but never went back. I asked her why and she told me. She said the University course is just $hit. You go to a lecture and its mostly bull. Its for kids, and they don't take it seriously. She told me she just got so sick of the whole thing she couldn't take it any more. Its all about money, and the learning comes last. Now I ask you? what does this say for Higher Education?
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• Philippines
7 Feb 09
i see that there are perhaps cultural differences. i live in a country where education can spell the difference. i have to be clear and firm though, at this point, that it was NOT ME who said education makes better parents. :) we have learned in medschool that the low income bracket and people with lower levels of education are at risk for: postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, etc. note that this is not a way of screening or providing bias for doctors; it's just the result of statistical studies and we make sure everyone who needs special attention and help is given exactly that. i have noticed that some countries do not need a higher education to succeed. in my country, however, your shot at success is very, very greatly increased by entering college. i'm sorry about the higher education in your country, but in mine, education is great. i have learned a lot, and my success in life is greatly due to my education (both in the school and elsewhere). i have to say that the testimony of ONE student in your country is not enough for me to give my thumbs down on higher education. especially because i LOVE how students are educated here. ;b but i digress. the topic is not on the quality of higher education, but the impact of education on parenting. if you have any more views, feel free to keep posting. :)
• India
8 Feb 09
I agree education has some role to play in rearing chiidern, but education only cant do that, rearing children also depends on the attitude of the parents and in the kind of environment they live in. So it wil not be fair to say that graduated parents look after their childeren in a better way than the parents who are not graduate, i say this because, my parents are not gradusted persons, but still they are taking care of me very well, they are giving me freedom to improve my existing talents, to develop my new talents, to choose my carrer, infact they are ready to spend for my education until i finish my post graduate courses. So in such cases the role of education in parenting fails, so wat i mean to say is , education alone cant decide that whether a child can be brought up in a good way or not, its attitude which matters. If the parents have right attitude towards parenting and better understanding between the children and parents can only lead to a better children-parents relationship.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
you're right, education may play a part, but it is not the whole story. other factors play a role, too. i wonder though if people will also not want their kids to be educated if they themselves aren't. what do you think? feel free to post. happy myLotting!
• United States
8 Feb 09
I am an excellent mother and have not finished college. I disagree
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
feel free to expound on your answer.also, feel free to read the rest of the discussion. you will find a lot of back-and-forth exhanges here. thanks and happy myLotting!
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I think being a good parent has nothing to do with being a graduate or not. So I don't believe for one minute that a college graduate is a better parent just because they graduated college...
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Well what makes a graduate a better parent? Parenting skills have nothing to do with whether you graduated or not. Good parenting skills come from the person within.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
19 Feb 09
Well I know what your story means, but it's not always like that. For example... I know many parents that didn't even finish school, but their children have & or working hard at it. I also know some that worked so hard to finish college just because their parents didn't & they wanted to prove something & be the first to do so in the family. So sometimes, kids don't go down that same road. Even parents that didn't go to college, still fight for whats best for their kids. I know my mother never made it to college, but she sure made sure her kids did another road path... Actually... kids who parents never finishedf college actually end up going to college & doing well... they learn from their parents mistakes & that in the long run makes them stronger...
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
why not? feel free to expound. your discussion will be welcomed here. happy myLotting!
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
8 Feb 09
In some ways a college graduate makes a better parent. He or she would have developed patience at collage and be able to draw on knowledge previously gained when helping with home work. He or she would probably have gained a decent career after leaving college and possibly be in a good position financially. A college graduate is likely to provide a rich learning environment with books and more educational type of toys. The children are likely to be intelligent if they take after one of their parents. I am a primary school teacher and I taught a Year 1 boy than did Year 4 Maths. Both his parents were teachers and had little time for him at home. He got bored at home and adored hard work at school. Some college graduates with important careers might ignore their children sometimes. If parents haven't had good schooling they might have poor spelling and not provide a rich learning environment for their children. They might struggle with Maths and think school is a horrible place because of their lack of success there. They will probably not bother overseeing their children's home work.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
ah, now we can see it from the point of view of a teacher. yes, in certain ways parents' education does have an impact on parenting, both good and bad. it's nice to hear how a teacher may look at this issue. thanks for your opinion! feel free to look at what others have posted; feel free to respond to their posts as well. it may help to have a teacher explain her point of view. :)
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
7 Feb 09
I don't believe that at all. I think good parenting has to do with what kind of person you are, not the amount of education you have had. I also think it has a lot to do with how you were raised and how good of parents that you had. Chances are if your parents will were good parents and set a good example that you yourself will likely be a good parent too. Some people who have bad parents even become really good parents, because they have learned how not to be. I think the ability to be a good parent is natural, and has a lot to do with one's ability to have emphathy, great love, and to be selfless. They don't teach you in college how to be a good parent. I think by the time someone reaches college age they already mostly the person they are going to be. If they are a selfish, self serving person, they are certainly going to not learn to be so in college. I believe that good parenting has more to do with how you are raised and by what kind of person you are, rather than how educated you are. If you want to argue that educated people get better jobs and make better salaries and can therefore provide better, I would say statistically you are correct, but sometimes people without higher education can do just fine financially as well. When it comes to parenting I say it is more about the person and their growing up environment than their education as to how good of parents they will be.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
7 Feb 09
Of course we have already established that higher education is slightly different in your country than mine as you actually have parenting classes in college in your country. I also agree that in life that striving to become the best we can be is a good thing, and higher education is also a good thing. Also being a well rounded person is a good thing. But I don't think it has anything to do with being a better parent. What I studied in college has nothing to do with my parenting. My husband majored in computer science, other than being able to fix my kids computers it does not have anything to do with him being a parent. I only have an associates degree, does that make me less of a parent than someone with a 4 year degree? I don't think so. I have really good kids, and I would even venture to say that they are happier, well adjusted, and even brighter then people I knows kids who have 4 year degrees. Granted my husband has a 4 year degree, but the majority of the raising of my children has been done by me, the parent with only a 2 year degree. And I can tell you with absalutely no uncertainty whatsoever that my children will become stable, happy, well balanced, and successful adults. Because I am an incredible mother, and that has nothing to do with my education. I know more through my own search for knowledge and from what my parents taught me then I would have ever learned in college.
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
when you say "by the time someone reaches college, they are already mostly the person they are going to be," it's like saying there's no room for improvement. with that defeatist mentality, i would say education will indeed not have an impact because the doors have been closed to opportunities for growth and improvement. having said that, being a "bad parent" does not only refer to neglect, lack of compassion and lack of love for your children; it also means ignorance of how to bring up children safely, providing intellectual & emotional stimulation for their growth, and providing an education for them as well. yes, it's true that becoming a good parent is not learned entirely in school. but knowledge is power, is it not? knowledge changes people. otherwise, what is the use of education at all? it should be abolished if it is incapable of changing society. but i digress. yes, parenting is about the person. but that's my point; to be an excellent parent, you have to be your best as a person. if i did not get an education and someone offered me a chance to study, i will definitely welcome it. i will not close my doors to ANY opportunity to grow and improve myself and rid myself of my ignorance. thanks for posting! happy myLotting! :)
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
"are you telling me that all the people who did not have education before the 60s are not good parents?" again, it's not me who said that. hehe. besides, like i said, if i wre given the opportunity to become a better person by getting an education, i'll grasp it. i may be a good parent without an education, but god willing, i'll be much better when i get knowledge to boot. :o
• India
7 Feb 09
well in a way i consider education as the base that it makes a good parents as education will teach them the way they should behave and also teach their kids to behave but well character is also as important as education , some times it so happen that the person is highly qualified but well he lacks the language of talking which shows how his character is and well kids will be learning the same from parents.
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
i see your point: although education provides opportunities for individual growth, one's principles and values may not be necessarily learned in school. and one's values and character will also play an important rolein parenting. thanks for posting your views. happy myLotting! :D
@becdmd (704)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
partly true and partly false...true because being a college graduate, they can provide better for their family, have further knowledge in life, will teach their kids good values but also false because there are a lot of parents who did not able to finish their studies but became good parents...not because of their college education but because of their hardwork and discipline in life, added with the wisdom they gained not from this world but from the Word of God, being able to know the right from wrong and what is pleasing to God, makes them better parents.(^_^)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
thanks for your input! feel free to browse through the rest of the discussion. you will find the rest of the posts very interesting. happy myLotting!
@CRIVAS (1815)
• Canada
7 Feb 09
I have to disagree with your parents, I don't think that an education is what makes a good parent. I have graduated from high school and I am a wonderful parent to my two beautiful daughters. I also know a University graduate that has two children of her own and I have to say that she is one of the worst parents that I have ever met. Being a good parent is dependent on you caring, compassion, love, patience and other traits. Not how smart you are.
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
i believe there is something lost in translation here... people immediately become defensive when i say "bad parenting." as i've said extensively in my response to a comment in this same discussion, this does not simply mean not having compassion, love, or patience for your children. it also means knowing how to care for their health needs, knowing how to defend their legal rights, and the like. unfortunately, most of these things are taught in school. being educated is not about being smart; it is about learning so much more that living life alone may not teach you. having said that, let's not make conclusions based on just you and your friend, because those are just two examples out of a million. i'm sure you're a goodparent. i'm just wondering if there is any degree of improvement in one's life, in one's capacity to provide intellectual & emotional support to one's children, if education is provided for. happy myLotting! thanks for posting!
• United States
8 Feb 09
I found your question and the responses very interesting. The folks who believe that education did not influence parenting ability cited reasons such as: 1. Good parenting has to do with what kind of person you are 2. Good parenting has more to do with how you were raised 3. Being loving, nurturing, and attentive make you a good parent Odd how none of these factors would have been discussed if your question had been, "Does being heterosexual make you a better parent?" When we discuss gay parenting, the skills and traits listed above aren't brought up. Doesn't seem to matter to most folks that a gay parent can be loving, nurturing, and attentive. We just say, "Nope. You're gay. You can't be a good parent." Fascinating, though, when we talk about education level, all of sudden being nurturing, loving, and attentive are important qualities and we don't mention being heterosexual as quality making someone a good parent.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
hehe. i understand. i think my question has stepped on a few toes, although of course that was not my intention. we have a lot of good mothers who are also undergrads, and immediately they think they are being targeted, so they shut down immediately instead of internalizing the question. they are immediately on the defensive, which closes a lot of doors for good criticism... in the spirit of camaraderie, i hope all the mothers out there realize that this is not a personal attack. i would LOVE to hear from an undergrad mom who is not immediately on the defensive, who is instead willing to voice her opinions calmly and perhaps with less spite. i would like to see undergrad moms show grace and SHOW (instead of CLAIM) that they are indeed better off. but that's just me ranting. they make good points, you know... but the points are not entirely balanced, as parenting does not only entail good intentions. i can see you are irked about how people view homosexual parents. i'm curious why... do you happen to be a homosexual parent? please do share. i'd also love to hear what your opinions are regarding the questions i posted. happy myLotting!
@fren45 (894)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 09
I believe is really untrue that college make better parents.. Cause I believe only from a family make a better mom or father/
• United States
8 Feb 09
Honestly, it doesn't really matter. I have known many parents who have had college educations (my father for example) and they were terrible parents. My mother had little college education (she did not have a degree) and she was a pretty good mom. My father had two degrees (and Engineering degree and a Psychology degree, and a masters) and he up and left my mother when she was pregnant with me. Just because a parent has education does not mean that they will be great parents. My niece's mother (she is considered my step-sister) had a BA, had five children, and she is a terrible mother. She forces religion down their throats, she yells at them all of the time, and she leaves them to take care of themselves. Tell me what kind of mother is that? My cousin has twins, he has a Engineering degree, his wife is also educated, and my cousin's parents (my aunt and uncle) do most of the raising. My aunt takes care of the kids much more than anyone else does. My cousin is always off at sea, and his wife is starting her own business. They really don't have time for their kids. Now, I am not saying that everyone with a degree forgets about their children, but I am saying that quite a few that I know aren't great parents. I think that it comes down to time and values. How much time do you have to devote to your children and how much do you value them? You can have little to no education and still be a pretty good parent, it just depends on how much you love and care for that child. How much you value that child.
• Norway
8 Feb 09
This is nonsense. It is the person you have to see, not the education.
• China
8 Feb 09
i think a man‘s ability is important