Would you kick out your child if he goes against your religiion

@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
March 26, 2009 10:36pm CST
I am a Christian, believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and believe that that is the true way and no one comes to the Father except through HIS son Jesus Christ. I also believe that all other ways are wrong. Yet some people namely one whose nickname starts with P, thinks that I will go and force my children or others to become Christians and if I had my way would arrest or kill anyone who believes in another religion. Now I think that these would arrest, kick out of the house, etc. kill, etc. anyone who decides to go against their religion that they were brought up since infancy and decides to be a Christian. That is the idea I got from their rant. Of course, I would never force anyone to become a Christian nor would I stop anyone from becoming a Muslim, Pagan, Wiccan, neither would I prevent anyone from preaching that Buddha is supreme, but at the same time, I would not like anyone to prevent anyone from wanting to go to church and hear about the Lord Jesus Christ. You see, if you go and say that I will drag people to church or that I will make it illegal to practice another religion, I would think that if you were in charge, you would also prevent your children or anyone else to go against your own beliefs. Something to think about.
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• United States
27 Mar 09
No. I would like to hope we're raising our children to make up their own mind. We plan to teach them about all world religions. We're raising our children to have enough information so that as they get older they can make an informed decision based upon the many different beliefs out there in the world, so they can come to their own conclusion.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Mar 09
I was wondering whether that would be a bit confusing. I mean if you say to your child, "here is the information on Baptists, Lutherans, Orthodox Jews, Wiccans who worship Gaieta, etc. now what one to you want to go to?" It would be confusing. I would think it best to go to your place of worship, and then when they are old enough, and hear about the other beliefs in school, or their friends invite them to their religious place of worship, then they would be in a better frame of mind to choose. But they have to have something to start with and they have to see whether the religion is man made or God made. That is the most important.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Apr 09
I always believe that the parents should try to bring their children up in their beliefs until they are old enough to choose their own religon, but they should not stop their children from going to other churches, temples or whatnot. I still believe that you can only be saved by a knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and I do not like the idea that you say that I feel I am the only one right,as if in the three billion or more people on the earth -- get it? I am not the only one attending my local church we have at least 200 members who believe that the church and every church that is affiliated with it preaches the only true word of God. So it is not as simple as I am right, it is just that I believe my Christian belief is the right one and not only I believe it, but that belief is shared by at least 5000 others (and this is an underestimation as I have no knowledge of how many churches are affiliated with ours, and how many members are of those churches in the world. We do not believe that Buddhist, Wiccans (I assume you are that),other Pagans, believers in Thor the thundergod, in Zeus, etc. will all go to heaven and we also know that there are those who believe in other religions will come to a knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and the only way is for parents not to stifle their children's desire to learn about God.
• United States
2 Apr 09
First of all, I've seen your writings on this topic in many religion threads and you seem to have it in your mind that your religion is the only right one. You're very confused yourself as to what different faiths believe and that is evidenced in other threads where you have misquoted information about them. I can tell you honestly that our children will not be given anything but the facts on said religions by experts in the field on said religions. It helps that my husband's bachelor's degree is in religion, and he's planning his graduate work in the area. Most religions are misunderstood because most people do not take the time to study them or learn anything about them. How is it you can question whether or not we're raising our children without a place of worship? My husband started the paradigm Student of Life, and with that we do honor the Sabbats, esbats, and other ritual days. My children are exposed to a place of worship/Temple and seem less judgemental of others then some adults I've seen. I cannot say for certain if our children will continue in our paradigm or choose another, that is their own journey. You specifically asked in your question if we as parents would kick them out, and I said no. Would you kick out your son or daughter if they came to you one day and said "Mom, Dad I'm Hindu"? That would be very sad if you felt the need to control your own child's spiritual journey. You do not own that chid's spirit. It is their journey, and we should not love them less if their spiritual journey takes them outside our own known paradigm. Namaste-Anora
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I let my kids decide when they were going to go to a church if they wanted. Never did I push religion down their throats. and never will!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
29 Mar 09
Oh I went thru all that too when i was young and into teens when I was 17 last time I ever went to church of any kind! I had visited some of my friends churches too. altho I have my moments of what I beleive. From any chuch. And tehy can learn about God with out ging to Church!.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
29 Mar 09
P.S. an dmy church never preached Hell and damn nation . We dont have a pastor the people of the church did the talking.!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
29 Mar 09
I think once the kids are young, then they have to go with the parents to church. I mean how can they learn about God, if on Sunday morning, they say "i do not want to go," Who is in charge, you or them? After they reach a certain age, like in their teens then they can decide but until they are young, you take them with you. But I do believe that until a child is around four it is hard for them to sit through a sermon - although there are many exceptions - then they stay in the nursery. And in some churches there are Sunday schools where it is introduced them gradually. Like I went to Sunday School, and learned about Noah and the ARk, Daniel in the Lions Den, Jesus with all the little children, and then learned the harder stuff when I went upstairs into the Congregation. I think the reason so many are against God and church is because they were told about hell fire and damnation before they were able to understand it.
• United States
12 Oct 09
no not at all, here in India with secular laws, anyone can follow any religion, even one person can follow two religions at a time. Even if my child things of following some other religion then it is his way of thinking and living life.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Oct 09
It is not right to kick a child out because he wants to go with another religion. Of course, that also means that individuals of a certain belief cannot go and attack others of a different belief. I did hear about that sort of thing happening.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
27 Mar 09
You really can't force some one to believe the same as you do. You may be able to force them to go to church with you but can't force them to change their beliefs. There are place where it is illegal to witness about Jesus. I would never push my children out of my home because they didn't follow my religion. What good would it do? Jesus got his followers by the way he lived and so should we.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Mar 09
Jesus also preached and the Jews who listened had the Law and the Prophets and the Old Testament as references. With the Greeks, Romans, and the other Gentiles, the apostles had to perform miracles, until they got the New Testament written. And the trouble with living good lives, even the bad people live good lives. I am sure that Goebbels was always phoning his mother to see if she was well, and some of those evil Nazis were kind to their dogs. And preachers and priests, reverends, ministers and pastors are best to preach the gospel. We can only walk, and if someone wants to go to church or asks us, why we always go to church on Sunday instead of staying home and watching the football game or TCM instead, we can tell them.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
27 Mar 09
Well I believe in walking the talk to witness. Yes there are some very good people out there that aren't Christian but I believe that walking the talk works as swell as preachers and other talking about Jesus. Not all preacher walk the talk.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
28 Mar 09
You have to be careful when joining a church. It has to preach the Word of God, and there has to be something in place like rules that if a preacher deviates from the true preaching of the gospel, then the consistory or what you call them can kick him out. We never had that problem in our church. Most of the time was that the minister was too sick , either physically or mentally to continue his duties so instead preaching every Sunday, he would do guest preachings like on New Years or when another minister was on holidays. It is too bad a lot of churches do not do that, then when the minister says "congregation, Jesus never walked on water, he used magic,"then you could get him thrown out.
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• United States
27 Mar 09
I am a Christian, too. I know that Jesus is the only way. People are free to believe as they want, but I think that Christians today are being repressed. People are trying to get us to shut up. I would not kick my child out of my home if he chose a different religion, but I would pay for him. Now if he was a worshipper of Satan, I would not allow that in my home.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Mar 09
Up here, it seems that the Human Right Commission allows people to persecute Christians, but anyone else know. I do not know where it occurs, whether it was in Canada, the States, or in Great Britain, but there was the case of a Christian being opposed or fire because of his or her beliefs, and the courts refused to hear it saying that he or she was not being persecuted, but had he or she been a Muslim, a whole different story. Now if only I can sneak in and throw away all my husband's Harry Potter audiobooks.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Mar 09
He has them on audio. And now he has put them on his Ipod, and is listening to them so that I can hear them and he has the television on and listening to Jeanne Piro. I am in the computer room, and I cannot hear the Judge. All I can hear is Harry Potter. Grr! Maybe I should buy an Ipod as well and make him listen to Jane Austin. All that romantic and boring stuff that men do not like.
• United States
31 Mar 09
It is happening around here, too. Get those potter books....when he is sleeping..lol
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• United States
12 Oct 09
I would never kick anyone out or force someone to accept my religious views. Neither would I hold on to the belief that I am right, and everybody is wrong. If there is a God, I am sure that he would want us to love and accept everyone as they are, and to not judge. Especially when it comes to your children- any God would not possibly approve of a parent turning their back on their child for ANY reason. You should encourage your child to be open minded, and be proud of their ability to be able to think for themselves.
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• India
3 Apr 09
Have not given this a proper thought but yes, its not as simple as saying ‘yes’ or ‘no’…most children are brought up seeing the religion of their parents and family and automatically believe in that religion…in fact it is what is expected of them. Similarly, we all are Hindus here and without being consciously so, my son is a Hindu too. That being said, I read out to him stories from our Hindu mythology as well as from the lives of Muhammad and Jesus and also about Abraham and Israel and so on. To me, knowledge knows no religion though I am not sure what my son would want to follow once he grows up AND if he want to take up some other religion, I cant foretell my reactions. So I do think I am a hypocrite at heart!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
I was raised as a Christian and do I hope my sons would become Christians, but I was raised a Protestant and thought of Roman Catholics giving more importance to Mary, the mother of Jesus then we do. So with us, it is not just our children changing from being Christian to being Hindu, or Buddhist, or whatever, it is changing from Protestant Christian to Roman Catholic Christian or Orthodox and visa versa. Then there are the different branches. I do not think I would be happy if I brought my children up in my belief, and they decided to go elsewhere, but to be honest, if they decided to go to maybe a different religion all together, I would try to get them to come back but I would want them to come of their own volition, and not be forced to do so. But for parents to kill their children if they go to a different belief is wrong.
• Canada
7 Oct 09
Children are going to grow up, become adults, and sometimes do things that will go against their parents. I am using my mother's maiden name, for example. That bugs the $hit out of my father. I have my reasons, and they have nothing to do with him personally, rather with my thoughts on tradition. My husband's kids are all different religions. We both know that a part of parenting is that kids are going to grow up to do whatever the @#$% they want, and people have to live with it.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Oct 09
You have to take your children to church so they get a good idea about God. And if one parent wants to go to one church, and one wants to go to another or if one parent wants to go to church, and one just wants to stay home, the children will follow the most dominant parent. That is the whole trouble. Once the children learn about God, then it will be God who opens up their heart and the ones that will not obey will do their own thing. However, parents feel sorrow that their children strayed and do not just say "oh well they are doing their own thing." That is not right. But this is mainly about children who want to switch religions, if the parents are strongly Christian, or Muslim or Buddhist or so other, if the child says that he will no longer go to the Church, Mosque, or Temple, will that parent kick that child out of the house. I am talking about older children, not preschool or under tens.
• Canada
7 Oct 09
Children are going to grow up, become adults, and sometimes do things that will go against their parents. I am using my mother's maiden name, for example. That bugs the $hit out of my father. I have my reasons, and they have nothing to do with him personally, rather with my thoughts on tradition. My husband's kids are all different religions. We both know that a part of parenting is that kids are going to grow up to do whatever the @#$% they want, and people have to live with it.
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• Canada
3 Apr 09
I wouldn't force my religion on anyone specially my kids. I raised them as Catholics, just as I was raised but I let them decide for themselves what's truly in their hearts and to follow what they believe in. Our daughter is Pagan (last I heard) and our son is about as observant and dedicated as a Catholic as any person is capable of being.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
10 Oct 09
I heard that girls are more likely to believe in Wicca because they seem to think that women should rule the world and have an idea that it was like that at the beginning. But it was not so. I do hope your daughter realizes the truth and comes back to God. You cannot force her, but have to show her love.
• United States
3 Apr 09
Tough call. Non believers shouldn't be yoked together. If my child went against my wishes they would be punished. If they are an adult they can do what they want.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Apr 09
We all should teach our children because they are still learning, but not to kick them out. Take them to church, and if later on when they are older, like in their late teens, then they are old enough to choose, but I sure wish they would later return to the Church. Of course, I am thinking of people like me and you who are Christians.
@xhaylea (361)
31 Mar 09
Well for me i don't really have a religion nor kids, and if i did of course i wouldn't kick them out if they didn't believe the same as me, i wouldn't neglect my kids like that. They need to make their own decisions in life, and parents cant always tell their kids what to do, they need to grow up and take their own responsibility, and opinions on things in my opinion.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
Children, and I am not talking about toddlers or children under twelve, should listen to their parents, but there comes a time when they have to find out for themselves. If the religion is wrong either of the parents or the children, they will find out and if there is a better one, or one that offers more hope, the parents should be able to let their teenagers go. I know most would think that this applies to Christian parents letting their children go to Mosques or Buddhist temples or to Jewish Synagogues, but it could also mean the reverse.
• India
2 Apr 09
Never. After all it is your blood. Just changing religion does not mean that all relationships are gone. It is a time of globlozation and the world is moving fast. So all these religious thoughts are not important any more. If your child is a good person then he will remain good person even after changing the religion and if your child is bad person he will remain bad. So get out of this old age thinking and welcome the new change.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
I did hear and read that many Muslims do not want their children to change their belief and will actually kill them if they refuse. Now it probably does not happen in the Western World but in the East possibly more then you know. I do take a belief in God and in my Christian belief very seriously, but I cannot force anyone else to do what I want and that should apply to any other religion as well. Of course if the child is too young, then he or she should obey the parents since he or she is too young anyway.
@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
12 Oct 09
I would not have thrown my son out if he did not believe as I do. We all have to choose ourselves what and who we will believe in. I do believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost also.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Oct 09
We have to show our children by example what we believe. And if the children want to do something different, it is not because of not trying. I believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost and if I show by what I believe and by going to church, reading the Bible, and taking the children to church, then anyone who is Christian would not throw their children out unless they do something horrible, but for just the boy or girl saying that they want to follow some other religion is not right.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
28 Mar 09
Well suspenseful, i brought my children up and taught them the way i believed & took them to the church that i believed in, i think that is what most parents do..I would love for my children to believe the way that i taught them BUT if my child took another direction in life, that is still my Child.I would love them anyway & never kick out my child whatsoever...My children is loved with unconditional love, and i would love them whatever they do...If i felt my child was rebelling against the way i raised them, then i just would not bring up the subject..Our obligation as parents are to bring the child up the way we would like & they are grown ups once they have been raised, and they have their own free will....To throw them out because they did not believe the way i did, would really not be the christain way of doing thing...Jesus instructed us to LOVE ....
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
12 Oct 09
That is what I feel. We are not God in that we can kick our children out because they do not believe. I mean that is what they did in the Old Testament, but when Jesus came to earth to live and die as an ordinary human, HE showed us a different way. We are to love our children and bring them up in the LORD. Then if they decide to worship an idol, it is their choice and Christian parents will pray to God to open the heart of their children. We do not know what methods God will use, maybe HE will be gentle, and maybe rough, but HIS ways are best.
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
28 Mar 09
Hey suspenseful, I think since we all have free will. Even our children have some free will, then no one can force their beleifs on anyone else. I'm wondering how you "drag" people to church?? Do you take them in hand cuffs?? LOL people can be so silly some times.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
11 Oct 09
They do seem to feel that way. But I guess that is how non Christians or rather anti Christians feel. They feel that the Christian parents force their children to go to church and that Christians go to unbelievers and drag them to church. Yet they feel that when a Christian gives up his faith in God and decides to become a pagan he is doing it out of his free will. Sounds rather ridiculous when you think of it.
• India
30 Mar 09
Well, as for me, i being a Christian, I do believe every1 has a right to choose and I wouldn't force my religion onto my son if he doesn't want to. But as a mom, I would definitely teach him from the start about God and his ways, and thats for his own betterment. But still if he chooses to be on his own way, I will never force him, nor will I kick him! I know what my religion teaches, and thats compassion and forgiveness and to have that enormous faith in God. So with that faith, I will pray that he will see the light and know the truth sooner or later. After all, God never forced his principles on all of us, if he did, there wouldn't be a free will and the chance to distinguish between the right and wrong.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
I tried to raise my sons to be Christians, but I did not go to a church when they were small. There was no good church in our area and by the time we moved to a city where there was a good one, they had already been able to make up their own minds. I did have friends in my former city who force their children to go with them to church and it made God very terrifying to them, not like my mother who made me feel that God was good and only people who do bad things and who reject HIM have to be terrified. I did read parts of the Bible, but I was more of a writer then a talker but they did learn about God. Luckily they were able to make their own minds, married Roman Catholic girls and i hope they come and attend the church I go to or the one that is affiliated with ours that is close to where they live.
@GemmaR (8517)
29 Mar 09
Never. I could never throw my child out whatever religion she chose to be. At the end of the day, I am not the same religion as my parents, and they have let me stay in their house for many years of me being that religion. I would just be happy that my child was happy with God and the way they choose to worship Him, no matter what that way might have been.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Oct 09
There is no sense in kicking a child out if he chooses a different religion. And my parents were of a different Christian belief, up until recently my husband was a non church goer and I was a church goer, and my sons are now married to Roman Catholic girls, so it is hard, but you can make it.
@suzzy3 (8342)
30 Mar 09
Certainly not every body is entitled to their own personal religious beliefs.If you do have different beliefs to the head of the household then It might be an idea to keep a bit quiet and not argue the point,as everyone feels their religion is the best one.I know some cultures will murder someone who does not follow all the rules to the last letter.Not knowing to much about things I would say that type of action throwing someone out or worse is not very holy or understanding as religion should bring you inner peace and understanding otherwise what is the point of worship.xx
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Mar 09
I would never force anyone to believe what I believe. I hope they can see how I live and that they investigate themselves and that God opens their hearts, but I do not like the idea that some will actually kill someone who does not believe in what they do and also I do not like the idea that Christians and Jews who would never kill anyone who does not believe as they do are accused by secular atheists that they do whereas they do not accuse those who do actually kill those who do not believe like Muslims.
@talithe (38)
• United States
28 Mar 09
“God has no religion.” -Mahatma Gandhi I tend to find religious people ignorant and self-righteous. They believe their way is the way of God and others are wrong. If that's not close-minded I don't know what is. I've participated in different religions. I learned what I could from each of them. I've read the Bible. I've read the Satanic Bible. There has not been one religion that I agree with, but I keep an open mind. I don't condemn others for their beliefs. I don't think I am superior or better than someone based on religion. I think it's absurd that others do. If my child said he wanted to worship the air, I could support him. It's his decision, he has his reasons for it, and if it makes him happy then I am happy for him. How cruel that others would shun this child and force feed him a religion he doesn't understand.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
11 Oct 09
Actually Christian parents are supposed to bring their children up in the same belief, but it is so natural that it is not force fed. Yet some people think that it is all right to get a child to eat his vegetables, but not all right to tell him about God. I do not go by what Gandhi says, he was never a Christian and for those who are not Christians and i include nominal Christians, they think that we are forced to go to Church. Force does not work, but if you bring the child up in your religion, he will have something to compare with other beliefs. It is the same if the child was raised a Hindu or a Muslim. They tell him stories of the heroes of his own religion and teach him a few phrases. It is like school. Or would you just let a child decide if he wants to go to school or not? You cannot use a different standard. If you are strict about a child washing his hands, you should be just as strict at getting him to go to church or to temple. So then when he is old enough, he can decide for himself, or God will open his heart to know HIM.