True Confessions: Okay, I Used To Plagiarize...Uh, In High School That Is
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
May 9, 2009 10:11pm CST
Okay, some know I started a discussion of how I'm fed up with plagiarizers that have plagued many a site, such as Ciao, and even here. But I have a deep, dark, true confession to make. I used to plagiarize my a$$ off ...uh, that is while I was in High School, but after that experience of what I went through never did again...scout's honor.
The story is actually funny when I think of it. One of those real ironies of life kind of thing.
It was my senior year and I was taking a Honors English class that was a specialized course studying Shakespeare, not only his work, but other authors as well. but mainly Shakespeare. Like many students back then (in the Civil War period..okay, NOT that far back)---we relied on those Monarch and Cliff Notes, cause lets face it...how many can really understand Shakespeare and those notes helped interpret what the hell he was writing about. One of the requirements was to zap out weekly short term papers about the particular Shakespearean play we were reading. So out comes those handy Monarch or Cliffs notes and yes....gulps...I lifted the material from those notes word for word--hey shoot me...not only I did it...everyone was.
Well, one time our professor (not only was he the professor but the main honcho....the department head) assigned us to read Joseph Conrad's Typhoon..sort of a MobyDick type story...but gasps, alas...THERE WERE NO MONARCH or CLIFF notes for it...ekkkkk! Now for some reason though, I really got into the story...I loved it, so it turned out I didn't need the NOTES, so when I wrote out my term paper about it...it was ALL my original writing, comments and thoughts about the story.
Okay, days after we had handed in the term papers, we now get them back....ALL save for me. When he came to my term paper, my professor looked me in the eyes and said those dreaded words a student hates to hear..."Could you please see me after class?" Like huh? WHAT DID I DO?
So after class, and everyone had left, I approached the professor's desk. He waves my term paper and says, "I can't grade you on this paper, since if I do, I would have to give you an "F". Like huh? He kept asking me over and over again, did you write this yourself? Yes,...Did you have help? No. The smucker didn't believe me. He kept interrogating me about it, and I felt myself blushing (used to blush at the slightest thing in those days) which he probably interpreted as guilt. He said the reason he couldn't grade my paper and if he did would give me an "F" was that my paper was too expertly, articulately and professionally written and not at all like my other papers that I had written.
At the one hand I wanted to burst out laughing, and the other hand wanted to tell him the truth....but if I had, I would have had to admit that all my other term papers had been, uh....lifted from other sources.
Okie dokie...lesson learned? You betcha...after that incident I never copied work and wrote term papers completely on my own and every term paper I did while in college no matter what the topic/subject was, I always got an "A" In fact, some kids used to approach me to write their papers for them and I said a flat NOPE to them.
So did you have any similar experiences when you were younger? That is maybe in school you had cheated only to backfire on you for when you came clean and honest, did your own work and was reprimanded for it simply since it hadn't kept in your former style...in other words you OWN style was better?
Well, one time our professor (not only was he the professor but the main honcho....the department head) assigned us to read Joseph Conrad's Typhoon..sort of a MobyDick type story...but gasps, alas...THERE WERE NO MONARCH or CLIFF notes for it...ekkkkk! Now for some reason though, I really got into the story...I loved it, so it turned out I didn't need the NOTES, so when I wrote out my term paper about it...it was ALL my original writing, comments and thoughts about the story.
Okay, days after we had handed in the term papers, we now get them back....ALL save for me. When he came to my term paper, my professor looked me in the eyes and said those dreaded words a student hates to hear..."Could you please see me after class?" Like huh? WHAT DID I DO?
So after class, and everyone had left, I approached the professor's desk. He waves my term paper and says, "I can't grade you on this paper, since if I do, I would have to give you an "F". Like huh? He kept asking me over and over again, did you write this yourself? Yes,...Did you have help? No. The smucker didn't believe me. He kept interrogating me about it, and I felt myself blushing (used to blush at the slightest thing in those days) which he probably interpreted as guilt. He said the reason he couldn't grade my paper and if he did would give me an "F" was that my paper was too expertly, articulately and professionally written and not at all like my other papers that I had written.
At the one hand I wanted to burst out laughing, and the other hand wanted to tell him the truth....but if I had, I would have had to admit that all my other term papers had been, uh....lifted from other sources.
Okie dokie...lesson learned? You betcha...after that incident I never copied work and wrote term papers completely on my own and every term paper I did while in college no matter what the topic/subject was, I always got an "A" In fact, some kids used to approach me to write their papers for them and I said a flat NOPE to them.
So did you have any similar experiences when you were younger? That is maybe in school you had cheated only to backfire on you for when you came clean and honest, did your own work and was reprimanded for it simply since it hadn't kept in your former style...in other words you OWN style was better?5 people like this
17 responses
@Little_Stormy (6883)
• United States
10 May 09
hahaha! I was actually a very stupid kid.. I loved writing so much that I did all my own work..and even turned it in before it was due... just don't ask about copying off a math test in the 6th grade! lol!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
So that was you! How dare you copied from my test!
sounds like you were a nerd like me. In college the moment the professor would announce the subjects for a term paper I'd be on it right away, and like you had them all done days or even weeks before they were due while everyone else was doing all nighters the night before they were due trying to write them until 3 in the morning
sounds like you were a nerd like me. In college the moment the professor would announce the subjects for a term paper I'd be on it right away, and like you had them all done days or even weeks before they were due while everyone else was doing all nighters the night before they were due trying to write them until 3 in the morning@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
10 May 09
So Stormy, what was your mark on that math test in sixth grade? ROFL
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@Little_Stormy (6883)
• United States
10 May 09
yeah Pye.... that was you I copied off of! ya know..... if you had only applied yourself more. we could have went places!
a C!
you could have gave us higher grades if ya only had tried!!!
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@ElicBxn (64176)
• United States
10 May 09
Wow! That's tough
I almost always read what they wanted us to read and wrote what few papers I got. I think the hardest paper I wrote was actually in an Art History course. We had to pick the subject (and get it approved) and then do the research and draw any pictures we needed.
since the course was in Art History, ancient and primitive, we didn't exactly have any "big names" we could pick, had to pick a subject from thousands of years ago
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@ElicBxn (64176)
• United States
10 May 09
I picked an archilogical site, a rare, round/oval building of the Minoan culture http://www.uk.digiserve.com/mentor/minoan/chamaizi.htm
I had to examine the building and look for earlier/later buildings that might be related - that was one TOUGH assignment - got an A probably because nobody had ever done the subject before in the art class before - but I think buildings can be a form of art when they are unique
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
I'm familiar with the Minoan culture..their fresco paintings were beautiful...many think the Minoan culture was the real Atlantis...island of Thera and all...I don't particularly believe that...I'm a die-hard Atlantis fan and think there really was a continent in the Atlantic Ocean once.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
LOL--too bad I didn't know you then. I LOVED art history classes, and when I became 35mm film camera savvy offered my photography services to the students. We would have "field" trips to the Metropolitan Museum and the students had to pick out an art object (also ancient...like Egyptian or Greek) and discuss it...so I offered my photography service to photograph the objects the students wanted so they could have a picture of it
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
10 May 09
Pye, I'm
!
I'm just so
with you!
How could you!
Ok, that's the extent of my ability to plagiarize the smilies! ROFL
As for me; I've been writing ever since I could hold a pencil and I've always
used my own words because I could understand them better! LOL
There are times when I use a lot of 'quotes' and idioms and such, but basically,
I've always expressed myself in my own voice.
!
I'm just so
with you!
How could you!
Ok, that's the extent of my ability to plagiarize the smilies! ROFL
As for me; I've been writing ever since I could hold a pencil and I've always
used my own words because I could understand them better! LOL
There are times when I use a lot of 'quotes' and idioms and such, but basically,
I've always expressed myself in my own voice.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
Are you going to fling wet noodles at me? (Pyewacket puts on a helmet and ducks)
I've been writing forever as well come to think of it. My third grade teacher, Mrs. Simon posted a compliment on my report card of how imaginative my short stories were. Actually that Shakespeare class was the one and only time that I uh....lifted material for papers. That professor was such a boring dweeb anyway....LOL. Funny I can remember HIS name, but for the life of me can't remember the name of the Honors English professor I had before him that was a real doll
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
Want some alfredo pasta sauce also???
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
10 May 09
LOL..............flick, slap, flick slap!
Now return the noodles will ya, I need them for my dinner! ROFL
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
10 May 09
Experience is the best teacher and most lessons learned are from negative experiences. It looks like you got Karma for those other times. Fair is fair!! LOL
Well, glad that you learned from it. I do believe some people feel that it is okay. I, too, had done it some when I was younger. I think many of us did, not on a large scale, but we all (should have) learned from it.
I cannot think of anything that did backfire on me, but I am sure there were some and I pushed it to the back of my mind.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
I think teachers nowadays are more wise about catching students who plagiarize now, but it's amazing when I think of it, since my professor was head of the English Dept, he didn't seem to catch on about those Monarch/Cliffs notes..gee, do they still have them anymore??

@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
10 May 09
Hey pye~ So what WAS the ending? Did you get an "F"? I don't
think I ever copied anything word for word, but I did copy
things partially! If I didn't understand something then I
did copy some parts of it. But, I never used those Cliff
notes! I must have been the only person who didn't! Somehow
even if I didn't really read the books I managed to get by!
I don't know how, but I must have because English was my
best subject! But, then again I only took 1 and 1/2 years
of it in College! I still always managed to get an "A"! It
was the only subject besides my Science and Biology cources
that I really didn't need to cheat in!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 09
Out of curiosity I managed to dig up all my old report cards..have them in a scrapbook I made and have it stored in the closet...Ironically I got a "B" in that English class based on the final exam and the uh...lifted term papers I did...he didn't count the term paper that was entirely my work...weird huh?

@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
Well of course I don't plagiarize now. I was a graduate of high school, year 1973...so that was a LONG time ago
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
10 May 09
Oh dear what a wonderful story - I'm laughing so hard I'm crying though. I have to admit though when I was in school I did write several papers for classmates and one of them 'got caught'. I usually did really good at writing more like that person might write but one got really close to my own 'style' and the teacher picked up on it. After the third degree we both confessesed but the teacher was 'cool' and didn't punish either of us just said not to ever do it again - we were both so scared of our parents finding out we never did it again.
@Aurone (4755)
• United States
10 May 09
Nope, never happened to me. I was one of those straight laced--so scared of my parents--I would have never cheated on anything, read everything didn't even use cliff notes. I loved literature and enjoyed those classes immensely. All I ever got in trouble for in writing was "making up words" which just happened to be in the dictionary. lol.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
Well I did actually read the Shakespeare plays just couldnt' always understand what the heck I was reading, and believe me I wasn't dense....LOL. I think the whole difference was in the case of the professor of that class who could make an insomniac sleep...the previous professor I had for English was lively upbeat and made reading a joy so I never cheated with the papers for his class.
@BarBaraPrz (51838)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 May 09
Nope, can't say that I've ever had that experience. I did write one paper, though, that I mainly used only one source for, and just fudged the other sources, that is, I included the sources the first source used, even though I never saw them, let alone read them.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
10 May 09
Pye,
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing that story. We've ALL done things that we probably shouldn't have done in our lives! That's what gets to me about people who make such a big deal about other people when they use poor judgement. IT happens! Yanno?
For me, I don't remember ever plagarizing, but I did sometimes sneek peaks at my classmates papers when taking tests and I looked the other way, sometimes when someone was sneeking a peek at my papers.
Overall, I'm an honest person, but I feel very strongly that everybody either has lied at some point in there life or done something that involves using poor judgement.
I know that my children have "cheated" a time or two. I don't think it's been anything major and I tell them they shouldn't, but to be honest, I don't think it's the end of the world.
Yes, there is a lot to be said for having integrity and we should all strive to be honest, but nobody is perfect. And as I heard said (on a reality show of all places) "she's not perfect, and if she IS perfect...then THAT is her flaw".
@marcialoyd (1173)
• United States
10 May 09
Haha. I do not think there is a high school student alive that has not done this if they are honest about it. I know I did. However, when I was in school I never got caught. When you are in high school it seems much easier to copy some words from a book and get it done and over with rather then actually take time to think and write the paper in your own words.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
I think now due to the internet and all though I think kids/students could be more easily caught if they are cheating though, like the way I'm able to find out if reviews at Ciao are copied, or responses even here are plagiarized.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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10 May 09
Hi pye,
You little cheater,lol!!, to be honest I have never cheated as I have a fear of getting found out and most time other classmates do get caught and they used to ge a good canning for it, so that was why I didn't cheat and always gets grade low, I mean very low, I was a thinko at school.
Bright Blessings.
Tamara
@tabsnlos (587)
• United States
10 May 09
I am very guilty when it comes to that!! I would cheat on test with the person beside me, I would write answers on my desk with small light print...You name it, I did it. Luckily, I never got caught =D although I really had it coming!!!
I should be ashamed!! eek...
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 09
It's funny when I think back I never cheated on tests for some reason...should have since I was so lousy in math..LOL
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
10 May 09
I am a disabled adult. I had a teacher...no a number of teachers over the years who didn't think that such critters had business in mainstream schools then mainstream colleges even with a Disabled adults center for occasional assistance. (One of these um...teachers was teaching anthropology.)
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Mrs. Anthropology hated the fact that on occasion she had to bend to my occasional special needs such as allowing me to take tests in the Disabled Students center during the day and not at night with the other students who could drive bla bla bla cuz of my legal rights bla.
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She decided to design the finals test strictly to flunk my disabled butt. Well, a big fat scandal ensued as I didn't perform as expected and she accused the entire Disabled Center of assisting me in cheating the test because there was no fracking way I could have gotten the results I did on my own. There was lots of outrage, and a few poor jokes about the coffee pot in the room assisting me in the test.
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Then, to appease her, and the powers that be of the college, and to rescue everyone's reputation, and all that crap, I retook the test. I was driven to the school by my mother.
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After the test was done, (it was easy for me, because for some reason, at the time I had an almost photographic memory, it was based entirely on one videotape.) I listened to other students make really interesting comments about the test and the teacher. None of those comments are printable on MyLot.
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My test grade was an A. I was one of perhaps five passing test grades out of forty people in the class.
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My test grade was an A. I was one of perhaps five passing test grades out of forty people in the class.
@rajeshfgh (1629)
• India
10 May 09
Hey, this is a great experience which you've shared for all those people (myself included) who are either too lazy or who underrate their potential. I think your case was a mix of both.
It happens with me too. I never think that I have done a job up to the mark and constantly feel that I could have done better. But, after getting feedback from my friends I feel surprised to know that I have infact done much better than my classmates. I think this is a case of lack of confidence in myself. Also, I am very lazy at times, especially the subjects which I dread.
I think it's all about optimisms and positive thinking which is very important for success in life.
















