Which One Is More Important Food Or Health Care

I agree that the system of public health insurance that the government is developing will not be perfect. But I think that it's important that they're trying, because a lot of people in this nation really do need health care and can't afford it. I also think that they should be focusing more efforts on food programs, because as much as we don't like to admit it, there are people starving in America. But no program developed by any government has ever been perfect.

That was a really good post to put things in perspective. Why stop with food? There are a number of things more important than medical care in order to live. My Wish List for President Obama 1. Government provided food 2. Government provided water (Those of us in rural areas have private wells that are drilled by dreaded private companies). 3. Government provided heat (private oil companies = satan) 4. Government provided housing. 5. Government provided transportation (Amtrack stops on every street) 6. Government provided jobs (or at least a paycheck every week) 7. Government provided phone service 8. Government provided clothing 9. Government provided television (so we can see Pres. Obama) Once all of these major needs are met than I am looking for: 10. Government provided healthcare I do not think this is asking too much and since Pres. Obama is not like the others and he really cares, I am sure we can get it.

What I am seeing in discussion like this are middle class people who are doing fine, they have good health insurance and don't want to help others who don't have it at all. There are multitudes of reasons people don't have health insurance. Primarly it comes down to any one who is physically able to work and does work should have health insurance through their employer or be making enough income to pay for family health insurance. But wait a minute why the hey do we even HAVE health insurance? Get rid of the middle man insurance companies that started making big inroads into the lives of people in the 1980's. Before that is you saw a doctor you made arrangements to pay them and or hospitals etc what you could afford each month. There were no middle men insurance companies mixing into it. Why does anyone NEED health insurance.? Just make arrangements to pay as your able that is how it used to be. Now everyone wants people to have health insurance. Either you purchase yourself for you and your family or you get it via and employer or some government program, medicare, medicaid, DSHS etc. Problem one. More and more employer's are not providing health care insurance for you or your family or if they do they have clauses that you have to work 30-40 hours per week to have it. Then employers like Wal-Mart, K-Mart, and some fast food chains and many others delibertatly only let you work 16-25 hours a week so they don't have to give employee's insurance. The employee is working 2-3 jobs at minimum wage and paying child care, auto upkeep, gas, insurance, taxes or paying for public transportation where there might be any. Food, clothing, utiliites, mortgage and or rent and the minimum wage pay checks just don't cover it all let alone enough to pay for medical insurance for yourself let alone your family. If it were not for greed in the medical industry, insurance industry, pharmacudical industry and everyone demanding way above what things really cost, cheating, lying, padding bills and getting kick backs we would NOT need insurance. About 5 years ago I challenged a bill on some of my hospital charges. $25 for a tylenol tablet? Give me a break what does a bottle of tylenol cost and why is it being put on the bill worth $25 per tablet. This is why things are high. Everyone is on the take. Then you have your sue happy people who sue because you looked cross-eyed at them or sneezed in their general direction or the doctor stitched you up with pink instead of blue thread. Yes there are more serious reasons but over all many law suits against medical staff, hospitals and doctor's are more frivilous and no real harm was done to a patient. But it has driven up costs across the board. When someone gets sick, loses a job, jobs are scare, there is a house fire or any number of natural disasters to people they just cannot recover or get back up no one cares. We have become a selfish, self serving, self centered nation of bigots. No one wants government to create a national health care for the under insurerd, the non insured and say how lazy poor folks at poverty level. They say the government does not promise anything. First "WE the PEOPLE" are supposed to be the government not the congress, sentatel house, president or supreme court US we the people. But we the people have turned blind eye and deaf ear to the plight of the poor and say they are lazy. This is false and people know it. True some are lazy but most are not. I know people who lost everything living in a car but STILL WORKING but not getting paid enough to rent a home, rents are way to high along with food, utilities, gas for cars and many other things. Not even to mention medical and dental. Which more and more employers are not providing or finding loopholes out of it. We do have a constitution. What does it say? Amendment 9 under the Bill of rights; The enumeration in the constitution of certain righta, shall NOT be construed to deny or disparage other's retained by the people. This means just because certain things are not listed, that those rights don't exist. One being the right to have fair, equal, good health care irregardless of income or age or any other thing. Amendment 14; Civil Rights; All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state in which they reside. No state shall make or enforce ANY law which shall abridge the privilages or immunities of citizens of the United States nor shall ANY state deprive ANY person (being a US citizen) of LIFE, LIBERTY nor PROPERTY. without due process of the law nor deny to any person within it's jurisdiction the EQUAL protection of the law. To DENY any citizen of the USA health care is to deny them EQUAL protection and can and at times has denied and deprived them of life. To insist they go to one HMO or another denies them the liberty to choose what care provider, doctor, or hospital they want to treat them and this should include natural health care for those who don't want synthetic medication or Medical doctors who only want to push such. This does NOT apply to illegal aliens who are here in the USA. Yet people are all too willing to help those criminals while denying citizens their equal rights under the law. We the people have NO right to deny others the same privilage and right to equal and good health care no matter their income level or ability to pay for health care just because bad things happened to them and they are not able to work, or afford good quality health care. So don't tell me it is not in our laws it is. Under the 9th and 14th amendments. Just because I am unable to work due to illness or disability or because there is just not work to be found and I am low income does not mean I don't have as much right to health care and quality equal health care as someone who is able to pay for it. Food is important and vital and affects in part our well being and good health. A lot of the medicines pushed by doctors today are harmful more than good it is about money, greed and not healing or helping and thus those who have good jobs, good insurance and good health care because they can afford it get better treatment and help. This violates our US 14th and 9th amendenments. We are NOT supposed to have classes of people where the moneyed and privilaged are favored over those who are living at or below poverty level but we do. Because of selfishness and greed. Of lack of charity and giving and love. We used to have a nation that people helped one another, helped build cabins, barns and if burned helped them rebuild, nothing asked in return they did it because they had compassion and cared. They knew if something happened to them they in turn would get help. But our nation as gone away from compassion and caring and want to know "What's in it for me" Sad we have become and so we are a decaying rotting nation and we will go under. We are a nation full of strife, greed, selfishness to our own people. Ever hear the phrase "charity starts at home" We Americans are ready to jump on the band wagon and send oodles of aid and dollars to other countries while ignoring the blatant poverty and need in our own. Shame on us. If we start taking care of our own people maybe we can get back to the basics. If we the people don't do it then those we put into office we have given the authority by voting for them to do it. Plain and simple even if you didn't vote for the person they were put in office by the majority deal with it. Stop bellyaching and whining and do something good for a change. Stop being so selfish. Because you might be doing just fine now but tomorrow you too could be in the unemployment line and homeless.

Well lost my health care 9 years ago I'm 61, all the jobs I've ever had provided health care but not anymore! Wow we're getting down to 3rd world status quicker than I thought!

Socialism at it's best. What will motivate people to keep up the struggle to care for their families and their selves?...and what will happen when government starts deciding who gets the heart medicine and who doesn't. ??? I already see that the insurance companies can dictate to the doctors what treatment options are going to be used....how much more so when the government beaurocrats get their hands into it.

You have to admit though that there are governments out there who are providing perfectly fine public healthcare. Do your research? Private does not always mean better and public does not always mean substandard.

for me among these two, it will be food which is more important.nobody can live without food. First it should be ensured that citizens get food to eat. Health care is also needed. But it comes after.

Too many people cannot afford to eat properly which is going to also sky rocket the need for more healthcare. Right now food costs are more dangerous and the more serious problem because as you have pointed out, if people cannot eat, they will not be concerned with healthcare. I would rather know now, how they are going to bring down the food costs and encourage more production then this smoke screen of issues they want to discuss about healthcare.

Exactly right! It is not the job of the government to provide anything for anyone... and it never has been. These communists who want us to be like the European Socialists should just move to Europe instead of trying to destroy our country with their unworkable and insane ideology. There is no such thing as a free lunch, or free healthcare, or free anything.

While health care is important, food is far more important. Like you say, if you don't eat, you die. I have not had health insurance since I left Arizona because, while I qualified for medicaid there, I do not here. I was on foodstamps for a while when I got here, but after I started back to school, they said I could only get it if I worked 20 hours a weak and I haven't been able to find a steady job. So I don't know how I will survive. I know if I don't eat well, my health will eventually fail and I can't afford to get sick. I wish that the government would get its act together. This situation is enough to make me want to move to France or somewhere they provide free health care. Have a great day!!!

Have you read somewhere that this healthcare will be free? To answer your question, my brother-in-law would rather have health care than food since he can't eat with what's left of his throat swollen up and, even if he could swallow, he's in pain. Here's another parallel that you might be interested in. Here in Florida we have a state homeowner's insurance program for folks who can't get conventional insurance. One of my properties is covered under a commercial carrier and the other is covered by a state policy. Can you tell me what is wrong with that? I pay permiums for both policies...the state sponsored one is not free. What makes you think that government sponsored health insurance is going to be free?

i say that both are important ,because if we take food only we will be healthy after that we should take care about health care it is must health care means we can go even daily