Does this mean that all pro choicers are murderers?

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
September 11, 2009 9:09am CST
A yet to be identified anti abortion activist was killed outside of Owosso High School in Michigan. The students were put on lock down until the suspect was apprehended. This brings up a few questions when it comes to the abortion and gun debate. Here we have a situation where an anti abortion activist has been killed by a person with a gun, at a school. When pro abortion activists are killed, the incompetent press and many (not all) on the left try to paint all of us on the anti abortion side with the same broad brush. Will they use the same "logic" for their own side? I doubt it. What happened at the school was murder. It wasn't something to celebrate, look up to or support. The person killed didn't deserve to be gunned down, nor can the killer be justified in the act. I've read comments in other discussion sites about this being kind of a reverse of the "Tiller Killer" situation. It's not a reverse of that at all. It is the same act... apparently for the same reason. http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/09/antiabortion_activist_shot_in.html
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Sep 09
When that person murdered that Tiller doctor instead of praying for his soul or for him stopping abortions, many pro abortionists decided that everyone who was against abortion was a murderer in his heart and would have done the same thing. Yet when someone murders an anti abortionist then they seem to think it is justification, that that person deserves to die. Good for the high school! They did not let the murderer get away. I suppose in many cases, the killer would have been allowed to get away and if caught, given the excuse of temporary insanity. Murder is murder, but that is not the point. I am sure that there are more anti abortionists who were killed, but the murderer got off with temporary insanity. So why are not crimes like this given the same publicity that the murderers of the pro unborn baby killers get? And for someone to kill an anti abortionist because, I would guess, his girl friend did not want to abort the baby he did not want to take financial responsibility for is worse.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
12 Sep 09
The media are finished. They stand by and report only on their owners' ideology. They'll only hire anchors and reporters aligning with that ideology and they will smother or outright change any story that runs counter to that ideology. Most of the press has become government-run, like it or not. They're either for or against something. And then the stupid bast@ards have the nerve to blame Internet for their downfall. No! Who the hell wants to watch news or read papers that blatantly take sides instead of reporting? Well, some may like that if they're strict partisans, but regular people want no parts of it. They want the truth and not the spin.
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
11 Sep 09
"It is the same act... apparently for the same reason." Sorry, I'm not sure exactly what you meant by that. As for the rest of it. I agree that it's wrong for people to kill others because they support either pro-life OR pro-choice arguments. Or if they advocate for either. I think you know where I stand on this issue already, but I'll re-state my thoughts on it. I don't think those (including myself) who support the pro-choice cause are necessarily "pro-abortion". I don't go out telling every young pregnant female that she should have an abortion. But I do believe that they should be allowed the choice, if they feel they cannot support a pregnancy or a child. Or if for some reason they feel they can not go through the process of putting their child up for adoption. I think those who are strong enough to choose adoption over abortion should be commended! I think that is a fabulous option for MANY pregnant women. It just is not the best option for ALL pregnant women. Yes, abstinence should be practiced. Yes, birth control is readiliy available. But unfortunatly, sometime people (mostly young, but not always) really screw up! You will probably say, "that doesn't give them the right to commit murder". I don't agree that abortion is "murder" and that is probably one of those arguments where people will either believe on thing or the other and it's tough to win someone over to your way of thinking on that one.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
11 Sep 09
Pro Choice means that you support a woman's "right to choose". It has never meant anything other than that. It doesn't matter what choice you would make yourself, it matters what you think the law should allow. What I meant by "it's the same act.. apparently for the same reason": It is murder. It isn't "reverse" anything just because it's the murder of an anti abortion activist instead of an abortion doctor. When Tiller was killed, he was murdered. When this person was killed, they were also murdered. The two killers apparently did it for the same reason.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
17 Sep 09
[b]Sometimes I fear for your safety, Ted, as you're so outspoken on this topic. I mean, the "pro-choicers" have already demonstrated they're happy with killing. You're a slightly older target than they usually kill, but now we see that some of them are willing to broaden their field a bit. You're causing them a problem with all your pesky, inconvenient facts & pertinent observations...& we all know how that bunch feels about inconvenience... I'm just sayin'.... Not that they'' ever get me to shut up, either, though. Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Sep 09
I've been to war, a paratrooper, done search and rescue in the Grand Teton mountains. I've run ambulance in the most violent parts of Atlanta and Milwaukee. I have been hit by cars, shot at, had knives pulled on me and did security in the barricade at Danzig and Offspring Concerts. I have rappelled off rocks and bridges 100s of feet high. I have swam the white water of the Hoeback Junction (over 8000 feet elevation) at midnight on Halloween Night during a full lunar eclipse. I have sat in ambulances with murders, rapists, gangbangers and others who wouldn't bat an eye at the thought of killing me. If there is a pro choice nutjob out there who thinks killing me might solve all the world's ills... well, it wouldn't be the first time my life has been in danger.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Sep 09
Why, and you also been to war, a paratrooper, done search and rescue in the Grand Teton mountains. I've run ambulance in the most violent parts of Atlanta and Milwaukee. Been hit by cars, shot at, had knives pulled on you and did security in the barricade at Danzig and Offspring Concerts. Rappelled off rocks and bridges 100s of feet high. Swam the white water of the Hoeback Junction (over 8000 feet elevation) at midnight on Halloween Night during a full lunar eclipse. Sat in ambulances with murders, rapists, gangbangers and others who wouldn't bat an eye at the thought of killing you? ;~D
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
17 Sep 09
[b]Dang, Ted! I think we must've been separated at birth! Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@markodoom (243)
• United States
11 Sep 09
Agreed. Murder is murder regardless of how you try to dress it up or whatever cause a person claims to be supporting. When stuff like this happens, supporters of any valid cause to which the perpetrator claims allegiance should be quick to disavow the act and the person. It is never justified.