Conservative Bible Project

@JodiLynn (1417)
United States
October 14, 2009 3:56pm CST
It's true. The crazy religious right is now dumbing down the bible, so even slow seventh graders can read it and understand the RR agenda... I mean religious messages. The Conservative Bible Project is a wiki site that is REWRITING the most consistent best seller in the history of books. Why? you ask??? BECAUSE It's TO LIBERAL. that's right. A NEW BIBLE! Woo hoo!!!! - no more emasculation for the men of the bible. - No unisex terminology. - Written at as seventh grade reading level () - Will utilize powerful conservative terms, like COMRADE - will express free market parables - credit conciseness instead of liberal "wordiness"..... Must be all the big words liberal bible writers used....Those crazy monks. Will you help edit? Will you buy this new trashy novel?oh yeah, they hope it will become a SCHOOL TEXT in the future, since it is not the "holy" bible. Is there no end to their ridiculousness? www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Dumbing it down depends on perspective - but rewriting it with a "conservative" slant is what they intend to do. It's not like it'll matter anyway. It WON'T make it into schools. If they spent more time reading the constitution and less time reading the Bible, they'd understand why. It's a project that will crash and burn, if they're even capable of getting it underway. I don't know what I found funnier about the article, though. Re-writing the parts about hell to make it appear more real, or admitting to giving the bible a more conservative slant and hoping to force "liberals" to be opened-minded by reading it. Truly the Conservapedia crowd has gone off the deep end, and then some. All I can do is shake my head and laugh.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
16 Oct 09
"Haven't any of you people who agree with her even read it? " Yeah, I read the entire thing. I read the preface twice. There's nothing to be misread. They are advocating writing a version of the bible that appears more conservative in nature. That's exactly what the page says. Up and down, in black in white - it even has their guidelines for re-writing emboldened and numbered 1-10. Not that it matters anyway. It's like arguing over whether or not we should change the text of Harry Potter to have English jargon, and American jargon. From the page: "Socialistic terminology permeates English translations of the Bible, without justification. This improperly encourages the "social justice" movement among Christians. For example, the conservative word "volunteer" is mentioned only once in the ESV, yet the socialistic word "comrade" is used three times, "laborer(s)" is used 13 times, "labored" 15 times, and "fellow" (as in "fellow worker") is used 55 times. " Heh - paranoid much? These people belong back in the era of McCarthy. Of course, I don't expect anything less from Conservapedia.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Clearly we weren't reading the same web page.
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
16 Oct 09
The OP is wrong. She either misread it or as I suspect twisting it to say what she wants it to say. She has yet to come back and defend her position for saying the opposite of what is written. Haven't any of you people who agree with her even read it?
• United States
15 Oct 09
Re-writing the bible? NO way! Kind of like re-writing a discussion, wouldnt you say? Check this out: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2149251.aspx
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Excellent find!
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
I totally forgot about that discussion.
• United States
15 Oct 09
Hey, you were ther too!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
14 Oct 09
The Holy Bible (King James Version even) used to be used as a primer for teaching elementary school kids how to read. Now the average "educated" person can't seem to grasp it. Talk about dumbing down!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Oct 09
Well, I was talking more the to point of our own understanding and education. Not that long ago the King James Version of the Holy Bible was used to teach kids how to read. Now high school graduates and even college professors don't have the same reading comprehension as yesterday's elementary students. As far as why I accept the Holy Bible as the word of God, because I have tested it in my life and have proven it to myself. Of course, that doesn't prove it to you. But then again no one has ever proven the existence of element 111 to either of us, yet we still accept it's existence without question.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
15 Oct 09
No, it's more a matter of WHY would we believe, knowing all the changes and modifications that have been made through the centuries to accommodate whatever the political/religious trends were at the time,Knowing the scientific answers to questions that were answered as magical and mystical in times past, WHY would we believe in any of it? To us, religion defies logic.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
15 Oct 09
ah so not true! I can fuse bismuth and nickle to get it.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
15 Oct 09
You did, in fact, completely misread the entire site and missed the point of the entire project which is exactly the opposite of what you have stated it to be. The bible is not to be written at seventh grade level with terms like comrade, these are the changes that have been made that they intend to correct. So, now that you understand your mistake, you must be in favor of this project, since you were so scandalized by what you thought they were going to do... right? No, probably not. Seems from most of your responses you don't believe the bible, so I can only assume this was a convenient discussion to bash the bible, conservative christians and people of faith in general. When I was in school the bible was used as a text in a course called "The Bible as Literature". This was in a public school. Nowadays, the students wouldn't be able to bring a bible into the school, which is probably why they've dropped that course - the textbook isn't allowed on school property.
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
I'm not sure if she misread it or just twisted it to say what she wished it said.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
16 Oct 09
I feel that what they are doing only further trivializes the book you all seem so smitten with. That same book which has been revised, re-translated (incorrectly at times for certain), and reinterpreted umpteen thousand times. The CBP wouldn't know what is or is not the original word intention/meaning, or what words were "original" to begin with! That they are attempting to put forth a more conservative set of interpretations should be offensive to those who do believe in Christ's message. Do you really WANT more capitalism in your holy book? Do you want your women kept low? You WANT hell fire and brimstone preaching? The bible isn't a text book, a book of texts yes, not thoroughly factual. Also, it is open to far to many interpretations, being openly controversial, discussing it in a public classroom would step on to many toes collectively and is simply not worth the hassle. Religion is best taught in religious institutions and at home.
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• United States
15 Oct 09
Probably both Irish. I guess the RR isnt the only ones with an agenda.
@artistry (4152)
• United States
15 Oct 09
...Hi JodiLynn, You are making me laugh out loud with this. Are you serious, are they really undertaking this??? After all the fuss about the indoctrination of the children with songs about politicians, they want to change the Bible to reflect their views. Who are these people? Do they know who they are? I think the Republicans have totally lost it. No, the real Bible is quite enough for this human. Interpretation of the real Bible without any changes is hard enough and they want to make adjustments. Well, it sounds like the tower of Babel to me, doing something that just goes against the seriousness of the Holy Bible. What would be the word, hubris, not strong enough. Take care.
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@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Thank you I agree, it further trivializes what's already been written. I see it as a lack of faith. they don't believe in whats there so they will change it to suit the needs at the time. The POLITICAL needs. I'm not surprised, it's been done a thousand times, for a thousand different groups/denominations.
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• United States
15 Oct 09
Wow. I have so much flowing in my mind right now I dont know where to begin. The people are so controlled, they are asking for more. Not only the most consistent best seller but also the most efficient tool of mass control that the world will ever know. What a shame. I feel bad that one day ill have to leave this ignorant world to my grandchildren. These people should be ashamed of what theyre letting themselves do to this world.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Your last sentence/question says it all!! Obviously, there is no end to their ridiculousness! I'm wondering how they're going to make something like women "submitting" to their husbands MORE conservative...lol! Gee,maybe Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin will contribute to the new version... Annie
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Annie, she misread it.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
16 Oct 09
No, I really don't think I misread anything. But thank you anyway. I had a very similar thought pertaining to Ms. Palin....
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
14 Oct 09
I'll consider that you might have misread it. I suggest you go read it again and stop thinking like a liberal but as a fact finder. My opinion is that the Bible who been screwed with by man so much there's not much left of the original word. The dumbing down was done on the liberal side. The same ones who think we need three different languages on a roll of toilet paper because they consider them too stupid to learn English.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
14 Oct 09
I will concur that there is likely very little of the initial story left after the thousands of re-interpretations, rewritings, and amendments. I will not waste my time rereading it. As to FACTS, it's a bible, not a science text. I like proof, and having faith denies one PROOF, thus the reason it's called FAITH (belief in something intangible). The best likening I've heard is "I believe the ice will hold my weight", to prove it, you step onto the ice. That's faith in the thickness of the ice. I can't do that with religion. To stupid to learn English?.... Can I surmise that you have the "Your HERE now, learn the language!" opinion? I have shared this opinion in times past, and might again, but those "stupid" multi-lingual warnings keep the manufacturers from getting sued. Anything that keeps lawyers away is a GOOD thing, IMO. Also, it's a backhanded way to teach uni-lingual people like you and I how to speak (or spell) a few foreign words, could come in handy when traveling.
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
So how many languages do you speak? Maybe Spanish? Maybe a bit of French? Just about every country has English as a second language except the countries that we cater to when it comes to language. I don't think Hispanics are stupid, we're just treating them like we believe they can't learn. They learned how to speak Spanish. It wasn't their first language. You're preaching to the choir about faith. It still doesn't change that you misread the piece.
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Let's just say we don't always disagree and sometimes we agree to disagree. Sometimes we just ignore.
@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
15 Oct 09
That's weird how they can change the way the religion they practice is based off of. It's not really the same if they change the words that Jesus and the apostles said in the bible. It just doesn't really make all that much sense to me.
@jb78000 (15139)
16 Oct 09
you ever read a book called the bible for dummies? think it was the target audience? DISCLAIMER I AM JUST ASKING A QUESTION. I KNOW SOME FAIRLY BRIGHT CHRISTIANS IN REAL LIFE. PLEASE PUT DOWN YOUR MACHETES.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
16 Oct 09
now this will get their HARES up in a lather!
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• United States
14 Oct 09
The problem is not the Bible we grew up with but the modernized version that many people now use. There is so much lost in translation and I have to say it is a pet peeve of mine. The Bible has been changed a little during each generations, each time some one Else's agenda is "supported" a little more. Now in our times the Bible is both whole missing books and bits and pieces here and there. If you get a chance get your hands on an older Bible or a true reprint of one from say a hundred years ago, then get one from a hundred years before that. You would be amazed how a few little changed words can make a "story" have a completly different meaning.
• United States
15 Oct 09
Yes, what a good idea, take the Bible out of schools but then replace it with the New Revised Republican Version....lol....oh dear. I am getting a little sick of the dumbing down of stuff in general - in my church the other week, we on the worship team were told not to say 'praise the Lord' or 'Amen' while leading worship, because newcomers may not understand it. I mean, I am certainly all for not being in little holier than thou cliques, rambling on about 'the propitiation of sins' or whatever in some dialect of churchese, and I want to make anyone who doesn't have any church background as welcome and comfortable as possible. Part of that, I feel, might be not treating them like they stupid! I mean, they have walked into a church, they know God is going to be mentioned, they know what praise the Lord means...lol ...I just think it insults people's intelligence.
• United States
15 Oct 09
lol....sorry Hair...nothing to worry your pretty head about, dear....hehe
@Catwife (54)
• China
15 Oct 09
Do not distorts the true meaning of the Bible that we have to really know the true God!Why should new versions appear,Do you want along with the progress of society,all the truth all the facts there will be change?I find it best not to think Italian!
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
16 Oct 09
best not to think Italian?