Cheney has another Senior moment

United States
October 25, 2009 8:38am CST
Wednesday night Former Vice President D!ck Cheney attacked the Obama administration for their policy on Afghanistan. Cheney said "The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger,". The problem with this comment is that generals in Afghanistan made simular comment in 2007 when D!ck Cheney actually had a say in the war in Afghanistan. Many current and former Generals have spoken up after these comments were made, pointing out the facts that the Bush administration "They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years". Even republican senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee also sided with Obama. So what do you think about Cheney's comments?
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
25 Oct 09
I think Cheney misses the white house.... Anyway. Ok, so Bush/Cheney ignored their generals in afghanistan when they were screaming for more troops. It was neglignet, GROSSLY negligent, in fact, it could be considered a dereliction of constitutional duty. The results have been far more cost in Afghanistan in terms of lives as well as monetary, it has been an inexcusable disaster. So......now that we agrea on that....
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• United States
25 Oct 09
X, I think this was their largest mistake (which is saying alot), and like you said it has cost the country dearly. I hope that Obama does what he said he would, and listen to the generals.
• Mexico
26 Oct 09
Hi: i think the same. Maybe Cheney forgot that he must take their advices when he was vice president and not now and tbat if everything was so easy why is he so unpopular after leaving the white house?
@roberten (3128)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Oh, he's an old fellow, so give him a break; being a senior can be hard on the brain. You're taking about something that happened a couple of years ago; take his words with a grain of salt if you really think he's having a senior moment. Afghanistan is what it is: if it smells like a rose and looks like a rose, most likely its a rose...enough said; senior memories can serve to protect us from things we'd just as soon forget.
• United States
26 Oct 09
Well said Roberten
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Obama's the president now. It's his war now. DO SOMETHING!
• United States
25 Oct 09
He is, he is fixing the mess that Bush left. Why didn't he DO SOMETHING????? I won't be expecting an answer because there is NO answer to this.
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
26 Oct 09
Well, his general is asking for more troops. What's the excuse for not sending them yet?
• Mexico
26 Oct 09
Hi piasabird: I agree with you that Obama has his own responsabilities but Cheney it's not the right man to tell Obama what he has to do or not after not being able to do a good job on Afganistan. Most of the mistakes that has been commited on Afganistan and Irak are part of Bush- Cheney administration.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
25 Oct 09
President Obama is clearly not fixing Afghanistan. In fact, in nine months as Commander in Chief, the situation has grown worse. President Obama has done absolutely nothing in 2009 with Afghanistan. This was supposed to be his war, his campaign promise. The fact that he hasn't consulted very much with his own appointed field commanders is very troubling. You do realize, that President Obama is ignoring Afghanistan perhaps more than Bush/Cheney did. At least they had the excuse of the distraction of Iraq whereas President Obama does not. I am still waiting on President Obama's excuse of why he is so blatantly ignoring Afghanistan. To be very clear, President Obama is the residing Commander in Chief. Therefore, at least nine months of the blame resides on his shoulders. Frankly, D!ck Cheney's use of the word "dithering" is quite appropriate in this context since President Obama clearly is "uncertain or indecisive" about Afghanistan.
• United States
26 Oct 09
I will point out that D!ck Cheney never was Commander in Chief of the military. (On a side note: Don't you think that it is funny that we can't write D!ck's first name on mylot.) So he had no power other than to advise the President. I will also point out that most of the second term Bush was putting out the many fires that ignited after the dictatorship was removed. If you look back, the situation in Iraq was far worse than the situation in Afghanistan, therefore it was the priority. I still think it is funny that you won't admit that President Obama bears part of the blame for ignoring Afghanistan for nine months. He is the current Commander in Chief. Is this another case of blaming the past administration because the current administration is doing nothing? Wake up. Bush is no longer President. You can't change what has happened. (No one has invented a time machine, yet.) Bush was highly criticized for his actions in both wars. I don't see why President Obama should get a free pass just because it was the fault of another President. Every single President has problems they have to fix from the past Presidencies. However, most of them don't go on a campaign, the instant they take office.
• United States
26 Oct 09
Kenny, he won the war in Iraq, and ignored the war in Afghanistan. What does that make him?? By they way, generals asked for more troops under Bush, he just ignored them because we didn't have any more because of Bush's war for reelection.
• United States
26 Oct 09
Sierras, you are correct that Obama hasn't done anything in 2009. But, if you are upset about this then why weren't you upset for the last 7 years? " You do realize, that President Obama is ignoring Afghanistan perhaps more than Bush/Cheney did. At least they had the excuse of the distraction of Iraq whereas President Obama does not. I am still waiting on President Obama's excuse of why he is so blatantly ignoring Afghanistan" I don't know how you can really make that argument, seeing how Bush and Cheney ignored Afghanistan for 7 years, and Obama has for 9 months. Please explain to me if the Bush/Cheney administration didn't ignor Afghanistan, then why didn't they do something about it? They did NOTHING, and that what the Generals said. "Frankly, D!ck Cheney's use of the word "dithering" is quite appropriate in this context since President Obama clearly is "uncertain or indecisive" about Afghanistan." So what would you call Bush/Cheney's lack of action in Afghansitan? INCOMPETENCE? IGNORANCE? DERELICTION OF DUTY?
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 Oct 09
You put something in quotes without a citation and reference remarks you do not quote from other people (current and former Generals) whom you do not name. But if we take a giant leap of faith and assume that at least part of your post is true and not wholly fabricated by you, then my response is "and so"? If you believe the war in Afghanistan was mishandled by the previous administration, do you then believe that is sufficient reason for this administration to do the same? Is this your way of saying "Bush/Cheney did it first"? What policy of Obama's did Lamar Alexander side with Obama on? The decision to ignore Afghanistan like Cheney did? What is Obama's policy on Afghanistan anyway, has he said? I continue to be surprised by the number of Obama supporters who seem content to have him do exactly what Bush did, whilst blaming Bush for all the nation's problems. If Obama continues to do what Bush did, and what Bush did was wrong... won't everything just get worse?
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Oct 09
Because democrats love Bush....duh.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 Oct 09
You wrote "Many current and former Generals have spoken up after these comments were made, pointing out the facts that the Bush administration "They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years"." The article you link to does not contain that exact quote but does have some comments in that vein from Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Rahm Emanuel and Robert Gibbs. I didn't know Nancy was ever a military general. Gosh, the things you don't know about people will surprise you. Alexander said that Obama was entitled to time to make a plan. So, there is no plan yet. Until Obama tells us his plan it's impossible to be in favor of it or opposed to it, so no one supports his plan yet. You didn't answer the question though, about why it's okay for Obama to dither and ignore Afghanistan just because he says Bush did the same thing?
• United States
25 Oct 09
Here is the link Rollo: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/10/cheney_obama_di.html And it isn't even from WND, or a blog, so it must be fabricated. Because we all know that the only reliable news comes from websites owned by Rupert Murdock, or sad people that live in their mothers basement. The point being made by Alexander is that Obama should take time to look at the request from his generals, and the man power that he has at hand. We all know that the Bush administration ignored Afghanistan, and even the generals there have publicly said thes same. Obama said that he will fight the war in Afghanistan (something that the Bush administration forgot all about when they got their new war with Iraq), and it is good to see that one president hasn't forgoten about our brave men and women in Afghanistan.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
27 Oct 09
There are some who don't agree that Bush did nothing. http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2009/10/25/obamas-minions-are-ingratesthe-bush-administration-did-leave-a-plan-for-afghanistan/ and http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/10/22/why_rahms_bush_blaming_isnt_helping_afghanistan I don't doubt you'll call them biased. There seems to be a difference of opinion, and since Obama has spent the first nine months of his administration lying to us, I think I'll believe the Bush administration's take on it.
• United States
27 Oct 09
Best, I will believe the Generals who have said they did nothing. And don't even getting me started on the Bush administration lying about any wars they got us into.