I'm a cookie failure!!
By sulsisels
@sulsisels (1685)
United States
December 17, 2009 8:40pm CST
I am a cook, I cook everyday, cater parties and can do almost anthing in the kitchen, EXCEPT bake. I have made 3 different cookies this week, a test run, if you will, with the intention of filling Christmas tins with delectable cookies for people I want to remember at Christmas without buying a gift. My first go round was with Ginger Snaps. I am not a fan of soft cookies so I searched my huge collection of cook books, even text books from school, to find the right crispy ginger snap recipe. I found one and the author claimed tha these were his Grannys recipe and that they were crisp and delicious. I figured, Granny,,,how could I go wrong. I followed the recipe to the t, even though my culinary training made me want to change a few things but knowing how important it is to follow the recipe in baking, I obeyed and did so. When I tell you that after one bite of these brick bats, you would need a root canal. Crispy? I think it would have been easier to chew a piece of my kitchen cabinet than chew these cookies...disaster. Second christmas failure, Russian tea cakes. I remember these cookies as a child as my decent is russian and my family always made these at the holidays. Again, I found a recipe in a Gourmet cook book and followed it even closer, fearing that something would go wrong with these as well. The recipe was so easy, flour,confection sugar, vanilla and flour. What could go wrong I thought as I rolled these little balls into 1 inch delights. Well, what went wrong, again I dont know. This time, in order to eat these cookies, you need a spoon. Thats right, a spoon. As soom as I picked them up from the cooled cookie sheet to roll them in powered sugar, they crumbled into millions of pieces..tasty but I do believe that I will be the first on the planet to serve cookies with silverware..disaster..and finally, my third attempt was a yule log, You know the one. You see them every Christmas. Chocolate sponge cake, filled with cream or pastry cream as I did and frosted with whipped cream, delicious, if you buy it in a bakery. This time when it came time to roll my 6.00 worth of pastry cream in the cake like a jelly roll, the cake split and split again, and like its anster the Russian tea cookie, ended up in a million pieces. So, my friends, I think I need some help..What am I doing wrong? My two dogs get all excited now when they see the Kitchen Aid come out because they know that they are about to embark on a dozen or so cookies..yum yum. If anyone has any baking suggestions for this cookie failure, pleae feel free..Thanking you in advance...J
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6 responses
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
18 Dec 09
What an excellent discussion. Very funny but I don't suppose you were laughing at the time all your culinary skills came to nought :-( I'm no expert in baking myself but I can think of three things that may be the culprit. 1. The wrong flour was used. 2. You became impatient with the Kitchen Aid and thought the mixture was ready and it wasn't and finally, there is something wrong with your cooker! I'd go for the last one because then it's not your fault lol! Best of luck with your next attempt(s)! :-0
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@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
19 Dec 09
Hi Janey
Yeah, thats the ticket,,,the stove is broken!!! I feel better already and I love your way of thinking! My Mom says that I didn't sift flour and thats what happened. I skipped that step and I do know better. I figured, Oh the flour is fine..looks fluffy to me!! NOT...
Maybe I did take it out of mixer too soon..It looked like dough to me so I stopped it. I still don't know when it is really ready. It says not to over mix so as not to develop the gluton because tea cakes should be of a "tender" consistency. I just cant believe how different baking is from cooking..In cooking I "eyeball" everything, change things as I go and substitute if need be..I usually have a successful dish, but baking, My God, its really by the book or nothing..I'm thinking of going back to school and taking a 6 week baking course. My money tree is kind of bare right now however so it may have to wait till spring when those hundred dollar bills bloom!! :) Thanks for the post..Merry Christmas..J
@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
22 Dec 09
Janey...I hope your right about mastering the "art", I just hope I'm not so old that all my teeth have fallen out and I'll be unable to chew them at all!! Thanks for your words of encouragement...J
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
19 Dec 09
Merry Christmas to you too! Baking is definitely an art form, not easy at all but I'm sure you shall master it.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I make Russian Teacakes. I have some tips for you. Don't use butter, use shortening. The texture is better. Let them cool slightly before the first dip in powdered sugar. I had so many fall apart before I started doing it that way. Cool completely before the second coating of powdered sugar. I'd also try a different recipe. I use the one in Betty Crocker's New Christmas Cookbook.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
19 Dec 09
You're welcome. For most cookie recipes I do use butter but it seems to work better with the teacakes to use shortening. You can use the butter flavored version if you want.
I have a super easy peanut butter recipe you might want to try. That is if you're not allergic!
1 cup peanut butter
1 cup sugar
1 egg
Mix together thoroughly. Drop spoonfuls onto cookie sheets. You can do the fork thing, but I don't. Bake at 375 for 12 minutes. Trust me, the recipe works great.
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@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Hi Irish..The new recipe,,,that it? no flour or bp or anything?? Well if I can't do that one than I'm hanging up my cookie apron forever!!! Tonight I am trying butter cookies..I'm scared and have been procrastinating all day..got to get busy as I intend to give them as a gift to friends that are coming tomorrow night...think I'll run out to store and buy a backup gift just in case my dogs get the butter cookies!!! Thanks again J
@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
19 Dec 09
hi irishidid..Thanks,,great tip,,Its funny because before I started this recipe I thought about using shortening but then changed my mind at the last minute..See, you should always go with your first thought!! I found my Moms old recipe today which sounds better than the one I used and I thought I might try that one....Its been raining here for 2 days and I was always told not to bake on rainy days..I have no idea if thats true or not but figured with as many problems as I'm having, I better not take the chance!! After I did the first batch, I realized that the cooling process is very important..Again thanks, I'm going to go to Betty Crockers web site and see if I cant find the recipe there. Merry Christmas to you and yours and happy baking!!!!

@ladym33 (10978)
• United States
18 Dec 09
It sounds like the ginger snaps were likely either over beaten or over cooked. Sometimes if you beat a dough too much it can cause the batter to get tough. Cookies that are too soft could be due the butter or shortening being too soft. Did the recipe list a specific temperature for the butter or shortening? As for the yule log that is a tough one for anyone, I would not feel bad about that one, getting cake a perfect consistency that it will actually roll is not simple. That I think is something that will get easier with experience. Something like that kind of takes practice before it becomes something you would actually serve. You could also try changing the location of your oven racks too for the cookies, perhaps they were getting too much heat or not enough.
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@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Hi Lady..I think youre right. I must have over beaten the flour and developed the gluten way to much. As for the butter being too soft, it definately was. Its still in the 80's down here and my room temp is not the average room temp! The yule log however, I don't know either but am going to keep trying. I have seen videos of pastry chefs rolling up those thngs like theres no tomorrow, making it look so simple...Afraid not. I'm going to pratice tomorrow without real filling. Its just too expensive to waste. The price of heavy cream alone would send you to the poorhouse. I'll make some kind of faux filling and watch, it will turn out perfect!! Thats just the luck I have. Anyway, thanks for your post as always and your suggestions. I think you nailed the problems. I should take bets on how many times it will take me to get it right..I'll let you know..maybe by next Christmas!! :)
J
@celebratelifeh (1142)
• China
18 Dec 09
i also cook every day but only for my wife and me. i do not like cook at all but i have to sometimes.no matter what i tried to cook and that's not as good as what my wife cooked. she told me if we put our heart into the cooking and we will make tasty food ofcourse. maybe you may try that.
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@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
19 Dec 09
Good for you..Thats wonderful that you try..I bet your wife loves it..I wish my other half could cook, but eggs and Oatmeal is about where it ends for him..I cook every single night but I love it so its not a problem. What you say is true..simple ingredients and lots of love makes the best dish!! We learned that in cooking school and I believe it to be true..Thanks for the post and keep cooking!!! Merry Christmas to you..J
@Jennifer_lee_88 (589)
• United States
19 Dec 09
OMG I'm not the only cookie failure! :)
For some reason i can never (and i mean never) make any kind of good cookie... and i really do try i have a list of what to do and how to do everything but they never have come out right! There way to soft, or to hard, or black, or raw in the middle, or have a strange taste... there was even a time a made cookies and they turned into a really think cake still don't know how that one happened!)
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
22 Dec 09
Try the peanut butter cookie recipe I posted on the thread. Follow it exactly and you should get good results.
@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
19 Dec 09
Hi Jen - Yeah!!! You have the syndrome too!! Maybe we could start a club called "The Cookie Crumbs" I'll be the number one crumb and you can be number 2..I love your black cookies, maybe that could be our signature item. Seriously though, isn't it so fustrating? I'm at the point that I'm afraid to open the oven door for fear that some horrible monster will jump out and kill me..kind of like the creator of Frankenstein. I follow the recipes exactly as stated. I measure everything, unlike when I cook and I even talk nice to the batter and still failure, disaster,tradegy..I don't know but I think I'll stick to Pillsburys slice and bake cookies. As long as I dont burn them, it should be a success everytime and if they didn't have such a distinct taste that almost everyone reconizes, I'd lie and say I baked them from scratch!! Thanks for the post crumb girl!!! J
@Jennifer_lee_88 (589)
• United States
19 Dec 09
lol your so right! I really don't get it i follow the recipes exactly too. I even time stuff but some how something goes wrong! I don't get it! I'm a really bad cook all around! I buy permade stuff and claim i make them (everyone knows i dont!)
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@highbridgemom (83)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Well, the ones that were too hard...my guess would be that you baked them a bit too long. Sometimes it doesn't take quite as long as the recipe says. I like soft cookies myself, so I take them out when the edges are just firm.
The second...I would guess that they were too dry? that maybe tehre should have been a bit more moisture going into the recipe.
With the rolled cakes, I like to roll it while it is still warm. With either waxed paper or cheesecloth. Then it will cool into a rolled shape. Unroll gently and then fill.
Do you know if your oven temperature is correct? I know that in my first apartment, the oven ran about 50 degrees hotter than the dial said!
Have you made any baked good that have turned out good? I'd suggest getting some break and bake cookies so that you could bake just a couple at a time til you get the right texture that you prefer. Pay more attention to the look and feel of the cookie than time/temperature.

@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
18 Dec 09
p.s. I'v come to the conclusion that my oven temp is off. When I look back at many many things I've cooked, my dish is always done either beore or after said temp..Your right. J






