What would you do if it were your daughter

@enola1692 (3323)
United States
January 12, 2010 11:00am CST
my daughter is in the 8th grade an was suspended for hitting a boy now heres what happen there was a boy in her grade that would touch the girls where they didnt want to be touch well he touch my daughter an she told the teacher the teacher said she didnt see it so it didnt happen ok a bunch of other girls complained about this boy also an same reaction from the teacher didnt see it so never happen my daughter asked mom what do I do if he dose it again I told her to hit him Well he did it again an my daughter knock him on his butt an the teachers eyes were open she saw that an suspended my daughter I dont think so I went to the school again cause when the boy touch her the first time an she said something an the school didnt do anything I went to the school an they said they would keep their eyes open an watch the boy well this time I told them to replay those cameras they have all over the place at the school they did an saw all the girls were telling the truth so they let my daughter go back to school of course the boy dont go near her now cause he knows she will hit him but the school said I was wrong to give my daughter my permission to hit the boy its teachin her to be violent so do you think I was wrong
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@shell2784 (752)
• United States
12 Jan 10
Are you KIDDING ME? What country do you live in? The first time my daughter told me anything like that I'd be on the phone with every principal, teacher, supervisor, board member, parent and janitor I could think of. First of all, I'd demand a written apology from the teacher personally as well as the school - for 1: taking something so seriously, so lightly, 2: not taking action when MULTIPLE girls started complaining, 3:not doing her job as a teacher to teach and protect the students, 4: for wrongly suspending your daughter for DEFENDING herself. You better believe I'd be telling my little girl to knock that no good little brat out! In fact, I WAS in the same situation... but it wouuld happen on the school bus. We did the whole thing of my mom talking to his mom and so on and so forth and when that didn't work... he grabbed my boob and I whopped him one right in the face... and he knew better than to say anythinig about it. Him and I ended up in court later on b/c he wouldn't stop, and I wasn't going to turn him into my personal punching bag... I'm not that good of a shot. lol I do NOT by any means think that you were wrong to give your daughter permission to hit the boy! In 8th grade she's old enough to understand that you're not teaching her to hit random people, you're teaching her to defend herself. You're teaching her that it is NOT ok for a guy to walk all over her and do as he pleases with her just because he can. Not to sound rude... but I do think you slacked just a bit. How could you NOT have been livid that your daughter is telling you that some boy is touching her inappropraitly and uninvited?! I wouldn't have let it get to the point where he had a chance to do it again. I hope this all settles down and the boy is EXPELLEd! And PLEASE do not stop complaining and screaming at the school until the boy is removed. I don't give a crap how many times he apologises. I'd also round up a few of the parents of the other girls and get that ignorant teacher fired as well. Best of luck with everything. I hope your daughter is ok and that she'll be able to go back to a "normal life" after all is said and done.
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@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
12 Jan 10
I have taught my girls that its there body an noone has the right to touch them an yes she is ook cause she knows it was the boys fault not hers as a matter of fact the boy was sent to an alternative school cause he kept it up but not with my daughter cause he knew she would defend herself an after she hit him for touching her the other girls took her lead an d=sad thing is all the other parents didnt want to be bothered I was the only one complaining most of the parents were like kids are kids an going to be kids so i am glad seein the parents didnt stick up for their daughters my daughter did an they started defending theirselves
• United States
12 Jan 10
Wow... are you anywhere near Pennsylvania b/c I'd really like to slap other the other mothers' in the face. Parents' are supposed to be the ones taking care of their kids. Oh people just pi$$ me off so much sometimes!how about the teacher? Has anything happened with him/her? It would have been up to him/her to report what they were being told. I agree with the fact that kids will be kids... but when kids cross the line, they need to be taken back to 1967 and be disciplined the RIGHT way! Not the way that we have to now. makes me sick!I'm glad that this has not scarred your daughter in anyway. She's a tough cookie and although I don't know her, I'm very proud of her!!! You should give her one big a$$ hug and I hope that you've pushed on the fact of how very proud you are of her. From experience, the 2 hardest things for a girl to do in that situation is defend yourself, and tell your parents.. and she's done both very bravely!You have a good girl on your hands!
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
13 Jan 10
Hi shell, I was gonna come into this discussion and put in my 2 cents worth. But when I saw your name, I just thought that I'd rather read what you have to say instead! What else can I say? You already said/wrote it all.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
12 Jan 10
Good for You,telling Her to stand up for Herself! So the school is wired for surveillance cameras and this kid was carrying on like that,and the Staff were prepared to put their heads in the sand and make out that there was nothing wrong? Should be worth a Mention at the PTA meetings.. I can't believe they Suspended Your daughter,then reinstated her when they saw evidence that backed Her up..And didn't do anything to the Culprit!
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
14 Jan 10
Would that be a common thing,A School getting rid of a troublesome student,and having another school prepared to step in and take them in with whatever (Bad!) reference He would get from the previous school?
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
14 Jan 10
he already got kicked out of the new school for the same thing now his mom has to home school him
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
they did get rid of the boy they sent him to the alternate school but i heard he caused so much trouble he has to be home school because he go kicked out of that school to an his mom is a real winner she has her head buried in the sand
• India
13 Jan 10
You were not wrong enola.You did the right thing.It was lucky that there were cameras in the school, so that the boy got caught.What would have happened if there were no cameras. You must have made it as a big issue, and told the school authorities, that you are going to take the matter to the police or the educational authorities. It seems the boy was special to the school people, and that is why, they were very lenient with him. Did the school authorities, take any action against the boy? or did they leave him with a warning?
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
no the boy got sent to the alternate school butt was kicked out of there to an now he has to be home school an of course his mom thinks its everyone picking on her baby
@gemini_rose (16264)
13 Jan 10
For me personally I think you did the right thing, because it is exactly what I would have done if it had been my daughter. I would not say that it was teaching her to be violent, it is not like she has just gone up to someone and hit them for no reason she has acted to protect herself and so she should, no one has the right to touch her inappropriately. If the teachers are going to turn a blind eye to a report like that being made to them about another pupil then so she should be allowed to protect herself.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
14 Jan 10
I agree an thank god he is out of her school now he finally got caught touching another girl in front of the teacher so they sent him to the alternative school
@vandana7 (98826)
• India
13 Jan 10
Hi enola, I'd say yes for the sole reason that the girl could have been injured in return as well, isn't it? What then? Added insult to injury? Agreed the fact that such things are there on camera should've struck the teacher, and you before. I'd put the blame on teacher. She is supposed to have taken action on such complaint, especially since it is coming from multiple sources. It should have reached the principal the moment she got second complaint against the boy. That way, cameras could have been replayed in time, and misery to other students could've been avoided. I'd suspend the teacher.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
I wasn't worried about her getting hurt she grew up with 5 cousins that are boys an huge an she has no problem keeping up with them they did finally replay the cameras an expelled the boy an he was sent to another school an before you know it he was expelled from that school also for the same offense they should give the boy some type of help he might be crying out for some
• Canada
13 Jan 10
I agree to a certain point with your issue but before giving permission to your daughter to hit the boy, you should go personally to the boy on the first time he did something wrong to your girl and talked to him - tell him that you will be taking this issue further even going to his parents and reporting it. I am not saying he would be he might have change his mind for doing the wrong with your daughter and other girls too. This is perhaps not an ideal solution but in some cases it really helps as kids always have a fear of their own parents coming to know their real colours. Hope this helps. Thanks.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
wouldn't do any good going to the mom cause she thinks its everyone else an not her son he was sent to another school cause he continued to do it to other girls but he didnt touch my daughter a gain an he then got kick out of his new school for the same thing so now he has to be home schooled
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
12 Jan 10
Well the first thing I would have demanded is that the Teacher is to be rectified on her Attitude towards the Incident Your Daughter did the right thing when she reported him and she got ignored so of course she will defend herself Why where the Videos not looked at once the Complaints came in, why is the Boy still at the School I would go above the Schools head to as far as I am concerned I would not be able to trust them to keep my Child safe This sort of thing makes me very angry when a Person is not believed on a case like that
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
The boy has been sent to the alternate school for trouble makers an I heard now he has to be home school cause he got kick out of there also my daughter didnt want to tell me because the school didnt do anything about it an she knew I would get upset which when she told me I stayed calm with an was calm till I got to the school then when my daughter wasn't around I blew
@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
12 Jan 10
Enola I am proud of you ! Boys are full of hormones especially starting from the age of 12-13 and up to... well a lot if they don't satisfy their needs one way or the other. The behavior depends from boy to boy, depending on the kind of influence he has around him, so when "in heat" he can be violent in talking, or do just what that boy did to your daughter and try and touch them... The thing is the school was wrong NOT to listen in the first place, especially when more and more complaints were piling up, and if i were in your shoes i would probably would have given the same advice to your daughter. Yes, maybe not the best ideas, but some bullies, or "heat troubled" just don't calm down unless they are taught a lesson - now i am not saying it is the best alternative through violence, but i don't see what alternative she had since the school did not want to take any measures whatsoever. Take care of her and yourself !
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
well all I know is he left her alone once she hit him an let him know she wouldn't take his crap an the other girls did the same he was finally removed from the school because the way he acted
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@lindiebiz (1006)
• Canada
13 Jan 10
If the teacher has looked into the matter when the girls first reported then the boy would not have been hit. The school was negligent by disbelieving the girls meaning that they assume the kids were lying. Thier offence is far worse than yours so why are they telling you, you were wrong when they were also.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
i totally agree with you took my daughter hitting the boy before they looked into it whats that they to little to late
@Fulltank (2882)
• Philippines
12 Jan 10
Got a same experience with my daughter. when she's on the first grade, a bully would come teasing her every now and then. I didn't know it first but she is asking a question what should a person would do if someone is bullying him/her. I jokingly told her that hit the bully on his face if he does not stop despite your pleadings. After several weeks, my daughter was sent to the principals office and we were called. She hits her bully classmate literally on the face. I knew it was wrong but deep inside I felt happy for her standing-up against a bully. They're in five grade now and they are still classmates. The good thing is that the boy never bullied her again.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
good for her she stood up for herself
@JDLofton (51)
• United States
12 Jan 10
No, I don't think you were wrong. I would have done the same thing. I have already told my boy that if someone hits him, for him to hit back. If they are ot playing of course. I don't think that is teaching them to be violent. It is just teaching them to defend their self which they will need to know anyway.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
12 Jan 10
I totally agree with you the boy is gone now he got caught touching more girls an was sent to the alternative school I think they need to go to his home an find out why he is doing this maybe something is happening to him at home
• United States
13 Jan 10
That is so ridiculous!!! How unbelievable!!! You need to go to the board of edication and report this right away! If they do not listen, call news nteworks, anything!!! You need to make your voice heard!!! that boy is going to keep doing it if he isnt stopped and it'll get much much more worse!!! My daughter is in the 8th grade also, and I nkow that anyonen dared touched het like that she would knock them out immedicately!! If so many girls are saying it, the teachers need to listen at once!!! You need to get al the girls togtether in front of the principal and have them teel the princiapl waht happened. They can also look at that boys record, he must have one since he keeps on doing what he does! Let your daughter know she needs to defend herself as a young lady should!! ?U should tel them to worry about that boy! He could grw=ow up to be a pedophile! It was not wrong at all, he set a hand on her, so what goes around comes around!! It is not tteaching her to be violent as long as you let her know when it is time to take a last resort!! Dont feel bad for raising your daughter, some ppl dont even do that like you do, so dont let anyone make you feel ashamed for being a good mother!
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
oh i am not ashamed I let the school know I was proud of my daughter for standing up for herself an d now the boy is gone an the teacher got a reprimanded so we will see
@atefft (31)
• United States
12 Jan 10
To be totally honest I would say that you should tell her to just stay away from that particular boy and not punish her at all. It was not her fault that the boy touched her. Why should she be punished for protecting herself? To be honest again, I would congradulate her.
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
13 Jan 10
oh she wasn't punished she did get back into school an I was proud of the other girls following my daughter hitting him an telling him to leave them alone he is no longer in the school cause the way he acts