If you're going to copy my discussion, at least do it properly

Spain
January 15, 2010 5:10am CST
A few days ago, I put up a discussion about my week on the Cabbage Soup Diet. I got a lot of feedback from others interested in it, and we swapped some great weight loss tips. I put up a link to the recipe for the soup and the diet plan, and it felt great that, as well as losing weight myself, I'd passed on some tips to others. Today, I find that someone else has also put up a Cabbage Soup Diet discussion. Problem is, the link they supplied - which doesn't work unless you cut it and paste it into your browser - is not for the original Cabbage Soup Diet. On this version, you can eat 20oz of beef on one day, 8 bananas and as much milk as you like on another, to name but 2 of the discrepancies. Not only has this member copied my idea, she hasn't done her research properly. If you try this diet, you'll GAIN weight, trust me. Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but at least when I post a discussion I check my facts first. Has anyone ever copied one of your discussions? Did they get their facts right? Did you report it? I did, and I also told the person what I thought of her.
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36 responses
15 Jan 10
When it comes to someone copying one of my discussions I am like a fart, silent but deadly. I don't bother gracing them with my pressence prefering to just report them for their obvious flouting of the rules and disprepect to not only me but other members for basically cheating.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
15 Jan 10
I have heard of cabbage diet but have not tried that out. I didn't see another similar discussion like yours and I have missed the link you provided. Well, some people are just too lazy to come up with their own ideas but extract ideas from what they read unfortunately they produced a distorted information which is misleading.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
15 Jan 10
A week or ten ago I posted a discussion about lettuce leaf stew as a dietary aid. No that's not right.... A few months into the future you posted me a discussion about cauliflowers.... No No No. Oh heck. No I didn't ever copy a discussion (although occasionally several people will post discussions about the same event) and no I never got my facts right. I can't even copy this discussion successfully! LOL.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Pikey. Thanks for making me smile again. It doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things, but it is annoying. BTW, did you realise that if you eat all the members who copy discussions, MyLot will slim down drastically, but you will probably explode through eating so much junk?
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• United States
15 Jan 10
P1kef1sh, I have had that happen where another user and I posted a discussion on an event that happened as soon as we heard about it in the news. We must have been typing at the same time, because we both checked and no discussions had been done on the subject and within minutes of each other we both had a discussion about the same event. Fortunately, we had each addressed it in a different manner, so it really was not a duplicate discussion. Even so, we thought it was funny that we had done the same topic at the same time and still managed to have our own way of approaching the subject. The other member even PM'd me when they realized what had happened, so that I would not only be aware of their discussion but also realize that they had not copied my idea. I really appreciated the fact that they took the time to PM me about the issue so that there would not be any misunderstandings.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello again, Purple. That's great that they PM'd you, and the fact that you approached the same topic from different angles also shows that you're both original thinkers. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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@Java09 (3075)
• United States
15 Jan 10
They must not be able to come up with their own ideas for discussion.They should read the guidlines too.As far as I know you're not supposed to copy a discussion.I try to make mine different.When I come on here ,I like to read what others are discussing so I can't post my own.I like mine to be different.I know I would not like it if someone copies my discussion.If I come acroos the cabbage soup diet,I'll respond to the one you started with the correct info.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Java. Thanks for your backing up above. It's fairly obvious she hasn't read the guidelines, or she'd know I'm not just having a fit of pique here. What's really annoyed me is that the other poster is passing on flawed information. It doesn't take a genius to work out that you can't possibly eat 20oz of red meat on a diet and expect to lose weight. I always try to come up with something original, or a different angle on an existing discussion. It's not rocket science, is it?
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Heathnic, I really don't like the way you're putting yourself across here, and neither do other people, from the responses coming in. Nobody's attacking you - you set yourself up with remarks which i suppose you thought were clever, but you must realise by now were not. As for your 'mood swings' comment, I suppose you thought that was funny as well. Don't be surprised if you offend more people with your attitude.
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• United States
15 Jan 10
I had this happen before. I do not start a lot of discussions, and I have a pretty distinctive writing style. Imagine my surprise when I noticed a discussion by another myLotter that had almost the exact same title as one of my discussions. I thought "Alright, I guess that could be coincidence", but when I read the article, it was about the same subject matter, too. Now, this person did not copy my discussion word for word, but the subject matter was the same, the title was almost identical, and there was enough wording that was exactly like in my discussion for it to be just a coincidence. What added insult to injury was that this person got more responses to their discussion than I did to mine! Other members read both discussions and agreed that the other person obviously copied my discussion, but apparently there were enough differences in the wording for myLot to disagree, because both discussions are still up. I wonder whether or not they will take the same stance on the one that you are talking about. Let me know what happens, please.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Purple. I have a pretty distinct writing style as well. This particular discussion title just speaks about cabbage, so I guess she thought it wouldn't get spotted. She hasn't got that many responses, but what really annoys me is that the link is to one of the poor imitation diets, whereas mine links to an article about adapting the original Cabbage Soup Diet. I hate it when people post incorrect information. I'll let you know if it goes.
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Purple, just to let you know the other discussion has been deleted, so obviously admin considered it was copied as well. As you say, I don't want my credibility compromised. I'm certainly happy it's gone, as one or two people seemed to think I was over reacting. They obviously haven't had the same thing happen to them.
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• United States
15 Jan 10
Sandra - I can see how it would be even worse if they copied your discussion and then gave incorrect information, too. That might make people think that you also had incorrect information, which could make people question your credibility as well as the credibility of the person that copied the information. Perhaps they thought that if they linked to different information, then it would not be considered copying or at least not plagiarizing, so they might have thought that it was alright, which obviously it is not. Alice, I am not sure exactly why the second one got more responses than my original one. Perhaps the user has more friends, since they have been here longer and have a substantially higher post count. I would think that would make the copying worse not better, though. I know that their version was a lot more condensed than mine, even though they used some of the exact wording that was in mine, especially the questions at the end of the discussion, although that too was re-phrased and did not ask as many questions. I guess the people that responded did not want to read as much, so this person's discussion was easier to read and respond to. The thing that gets to me the most, though, is that this person had more than twice the number of responses that I had and only responded to four. I responded to every single person that commented on my discussion, and some I responded to several times with back and forth interaction. I guess that really does not matter to most people on here, although I do find it valuable to interact with other people in discussions, especially the ones that I start.
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@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I have never started a discussion so I have never been copied. I did try the Cabbage Soup Diet a long time ago. I don't remember which one it was, but I lost weight so maybe it was the original one. I enjoyed it, except I don't like to cook so making the soup was an unpleasant experience. I made it once and made enough to last a long time, but I still hated to make it. There used to be a resturant around here that sold it. That was the only place I have ever seen it on a menu.
• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Cerebellum. That's interesting - a restaurant selling the soup. I love to cook, so it's not a problem for me. Any particular reason why you've never started a discussion? Do you just enjoy responding, or are you worried people may not like your discussions? I'm sure you could come up with something interesting. I'm just curious, that's all.
• United States
16 Jan 10
I have thought of starting a discussion, but I can't think of anything that would be of interest to anyone else. I enjoy responding to other discussions, and that seems to take a lot of time. I just respond to the list of my intrests and my friends. I have never seen the discussion you were talking about. It is possible the other person didn't either. Starting a discussion that mirrors another one is one of the reasons I haven't started any. I was told you should read all the discussions prior to starting one, to make sure that topic wasn't already discussed. I don't usually even go to the list of discussions.
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I'm not condoning copy and pasting someone else's discussions but as with many diets there is probably many variations of the Cabbage Soup Diet.. and I did find some information about it on Wikipedia and it does say for them to eat 8bananas on day 4 and beef on day 5 and 6..I haven't been able to answer your other discussion as of yet but will. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_soup_diet Hope the link works.. I have done this diet before and did lose a few pounds but the soup..wasn't as tasteful as I would have liked..so I ate more fruit then soup.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Thanks for the tip..it drives me batty sometimes when I can't get the links to work. I told hubby I was starting a diet and he rolled his eyes and said Here we go again..lol I guess he does that because I am a yo-yo with dieting I guess. I lose, I gain, I lose, I gain..never ending battle.
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Becca. The link didn't work, but I pasted the address into the browser. It's the same version used in the other discussion. Quick tip, courtesy of Lamb. If you want to post a link, put it at the bottom. I'll put a link to my other discussion to show you. You need a colon and a space before the web address. I've put a link to the soup recipe and diet I used over there. It's very tasty - even my husband likes it, and he's very difficult to please. Link: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2224747.aspx
• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello again Becca. Yes, I have a weight problem, and have to keep on top of it. I wish I'd been born naturally thin! Oh well, I suppose we're a lot more aware of the healthy options than someone who doesn't have to watch their weight. Good luck.
• United States
16 Jan 10
How can you say they copied your discussion if if was not identical to yours. Perhaps they just wanted to give their version of the diet??? You can not accuse them of plagiarism unless they had copied word for word what you wrote. AND the link problem is a myLot glitch and has been around for ages so again you are incorrect on blaming the poster for the link problems. BTW way links in myLot do not work is they are part of the discussion or response but it works perfectly if you post it alone as a comment.
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Whiteheather. Plagiarism doesn't have to be copied word for word. Almost everyone else who responded thought it was copied as well, and I've noticed that this person has copied other discussions, so I'm pretty sure of my facts. I'd say nothing otherwise. The link will work in a discussion as long as it's posted at the end of the text, with a colon and a space ahead of the web address. I've posted a couple of links successfully this way, so it's not a MyLot glitch, it's just a matter of doing it right.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 10
I had one discussion copied word for word, but a few friends were all over it and it was gone pretty quickly. Mine didn't have a link...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 10
Clearly they didn't think, but now they know better....
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Dawn. Yes, it's great when your friends come in to support you, isn't it? Copying word for word is really silly, though. Do they not stop to think? No, they probably don't ...
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@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
15 Jan 10
20 oz of beef in a day? Holy crap, might as well call that the constipation diet! It bugs me when people do stuff like that. Getting inspiration from a discussion is one thing but to copy it - and poorly - is just plain crumby.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Jessp. Yes, that amount of meat would certainly clog everything up, wouldn't it? Lots of people bought out imitations of the Cabbage Soup Diet, but the original is the best - as with discussions.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
Sadly if some people have no thoughts of their own, they reach out and grab everyone else's. I'm not sure whether I'd be angry with them or feel sorry for their total lack of originality. Probably both.
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Mysticmaggie. Yes, I started off angry, now I pity someone who needs to do this. I'm just thankful that I can think things up for myself without having to steal ideas from others. I'm over it now - I've had my say and moved on.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
16 Jan 10
Hello Sandra, well you know imitiation is meant to be flattering. Is 20oz of beef more than 400 grams, I do a cassrole out of that amount for 2 days for 2 of us but at least I don't have to eat cabbage with it, just dumplings. I have noticed a few of my discussions copied, with a couple I just went in to respond and told them it had been done by me the day before and they didn't get anymore responses, and it was Solarpanel who copied one exactly about following your friends round mylot, I presume its still there as it didn't go when I reported it, but it was the exact same wording.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Jan 10
I have toggled along and put my two pennorth worth in my dear, must say most bizarre attitude.
• Spain
17 Jan 10
Hello, Thea. Yes, 20oz is about 550grams, I think. Doesn't surprise me that Solarpanel copied - a lot of his responses sound as if they've come from somewhere other than his tiny mind. The discussion's gone now, so admin obviously agreed with me. Still, I shouldn't grumble - I've had about 40 quality responses to this discussion, and a few more on the Cabbage Soup one, so she's done me some good and herself none at all. Talking of quality responses (not) check out boxes 15 and 16 - unbelievable attitude!
• Spain
17 Jan 10
Hello, Thea. Did you enjoy the sun today? We had a lovely day as well, and I got sunburned - in January! The response box has gone, but Lamb's put down is still there in the next one. Saw your response on your profile page as I was stalking you to see what you've been up to today. Thank you.
@maria1081 (1251)
• Philippines
15 Jan 10
I'm sorry about that. I also noticed about the cabbage diet discussion a few weeks ago and when I responded today I thought it was the same discussion since I wasnt able to give my response to the first. Then I just read your comment about her thread so now I know that there is actually two discussions with the same topic. It's sad to know that this kind of things happened. Its okay if you have the same main topic but has different presentation of discussion, then more information is added. But as you said it was copied and lack informative facts.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Maria. I wouldn't mind if it was a few weeks down the line, but I only posted mine on Monday. I wouldn't want people to look at that one and then think because that information was wrong, mine was as well. She's actually said she didn't copy it, but then she would, wouldn't she?
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
15 Jan 10
I will never do that and I have never done that in all the forums that I go to. I have my own ideas to share and other people's experiences may remind you of some similar experience but you don't copy the other person's discussion because that's his way of expressing himself and I have my own way of saying things too.
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• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Cutie, and welcome to MyLot. As you say, we each have our own way of expressing ourselves, and our own experiences and ideas to bring to MyLot, so there's plenty of fodder for discussions, without copying from other people. Apart from anything else, it's against the site guidelines. Oh well, these things are sent to try us. I've calmed down now, although I'm still not very happy about it.
@balasri (26537)
• India
17 Jan 10
I am happy that you have brought up this issue.It is an irritating trend here that some people get highly inspired by reading our discussion that instead of responding to them start copying them.Pathetic.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
17 Jan 10
Some people likes to lean things the hard and shameless way.
• Spain
17 Jan 10
Hello, balasri. I agree with you - it's pathetic. The copied discussion has gone now, so let's hope she realises it doesn't do any good in the long run.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 10
Hi Sandra Yes it has happened to me twice that someone copied my Discussions and the stupid thing was they copied two of my Gissi Discussions, it was Friends who let me know that they where about, so I checked it out, some of my Friends had already been in there and given the Person what for lol Yes I did report and so had others I mean if they are going to copy and paste then they want to be careful what they do, as this Member had literally copied and pasted the 2 Discussions lol Good on you for telling her what you think of her to
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 10
Well Sandra that is what I thought to how can they be so stupid to copy and paste something so obvious lol I agree with you that it was not a coincident and good on you for not letting her get away with it either
• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Gabs. That's a bit daft, copying your Gissi ones, because they're out there on their own, and so obvious copies. These cheats always get found out in the end, don't they? I wasn't just going to let it pass, as no way was it a coincidence.
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• United States
17 Jan 10
I'm sorry to hear about the Copy Cat. But I haven't heard about the cabbage diet since I was in high school back in the 90s. I know alot of folks that did this diet and it did work. Now its my time to give it a chance. Plz give me the recipe. Thank you
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• Spain
17 Jan 10
Hello, hardworkingmom. Yes, the diet has been around for a while. The link below will take you to the recipe and give some hints on adapting the diet to suit yourself and your circumstances. Good luck with it. Link: http://www.helium.com/ite...
• Spain
17 Jan 10
Sorry, the first link's not working. Try this: Link: http://www.helium.com/items/1016240-how-to-follow-the-cabbage-soup-diet
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Hi Sandra, No, I have never had this happen to me. I'd be furious if it did. Are you sure it's not just coincidence? I mean, is it possible that this person just started a Cabbage Soup Diet herself and posted it not seeing yours? I don't know. I just can't imagine getting on here and copying someone elses ideas deliberately like this.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Jan 10
ya, I have heard that people have copied here. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd think it'd take as much time and effort to copy a discussion as it would to just come up with your own. you did report this, right?
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Yes, I did report it. I agree with you there. It doesn't take long to start a discussion once the idea is there, so why bother looking for ones to copy? Doesn't make sense to me, but then I think I'm fairly normal - although others may disagree.
• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Sid. No, I don't think it was coincidence. From the wording of the posting, she hadn't done the diet herself. And if she'd followed the diet on the link she posted, she'd have gained weight. The original Cabbage Soup Diet is low in protein, but this version had 20oz of meat on one day. People do copy ideas - Dawn has even had discussions copied word for word. I really can't understand it.
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@doryvien (2284)
• United States
15 Jan 10
Hi Sandra, When I was new here I made a discussion about one's future or plans in the next so and so years. It didn't get many responses. Then two weeks after there was another discussion started by someone (an older member) with (almost) the same title, and exactly the same topic. And it got more responses, probably because he's an old member and has more friends who were able to respond. I didn't know if the member copied my discussion (maybe it was a random thought just like mine and it just happened we were interested in the same topic) but I guess mine was too recent that if only he checked, he would have seen mine. Well I didn't do anything, I just brushed it off and moved on.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
16 Jan 10
thats what happened to me once. when i was new here also. i wonder if its the same "old timer" that does this to newbies? they had more friends then me and i could not figure at that time why they got so many more responses. i know now. i done a discussion about chain emails. two days later theirs was in the digest i got. at first i thought it was mine, then noticed it wasnt. i looked at when it was posted and it was the day after mine. i just left it go, being new i did not know what to do.
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• Spain
16 Jan 10
Hello, Bunnybon. It's always worth reporting, because if somebody keeps doing it and getting away with it, it's cheating the honest members on here. The copied discussion has gone now, so admin agreed with me.
• Spain
15 Jan 10
Hello, Doryvien. Yes, I've calmed down now, and I suppose you have to accept that these things will happen. It's just so annoying when they do, especially when they don't check on their facts before posting.
• Pamplona, Spain
19 Jan 10
Hiya Sandra1952, Really don´t think that anyone has copied any discussion of mine from here I don´t have many yet as I´m too busy answering other Peoples have not got much time to do anything else. I like Cabbage but these lot here in this House don´t so I can´t even entertain the idea of cooking it. Does the diet work well for you? Well if it does I´m glad for you gal. I can´t even boil any herbs here they detest the smell of them too.
• Spain
19 Jan 10
You have real problems there, don't you? Yes, it does work, and you're never hungry, which is a bonus. Glad you haven't had a discussion copied - it's not nice. At least it's gone now, so admin obviously agreed with me.
• Pamplona, Spain
20 Jan 10
Hiya Sandra, No not problems just keep away from Cabbage that´s all and the herbs do them when they´ve all gone out to work. At least I can do something in peace and quiet.