my country is The Best in the World

@jb78000 (15163)
January 28, 2010 6:08am CST
there are patriotic representives from mainly two countries on here who regularly make this claim and i am wondering why. i'll refer to them as country a and country b. country a - the main claim is levels of tolerance and harmony not known elsewhere. this is not actually the case. country b's main claim is that it is 'freer' than everywhere else with a fantastic method of governing. this is not actually the case either. now what a and b have in common is historical resentment towards erm my country, with good reason. much more recent for country a. so do you think this is the reason for this level of patriotism or do you think there is another reason? says a fond goodbye to brand new red star
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@Torunn (5504)
• Norway
28 Jan 10
Well, they're both wrong, as MY country is the best in world! In everything! (except weather of course) And the UN says so too! So those poor misguided people aren't just wrong, they live in the wrong place ;-) (should I assume that those aforementioned poor misguided people won't take this as a joke, and let my red star wonder of together with yours?) Or are you talking about me? *looks around* But there's nearly only me here *paranoid stare* However, I know that the word "union" has a tendency to make us (Norwegians) maybe a bit too patriotic, and the so-called union called the 400 year long night ended nearly 200 years ago, so yes, I history can make a country more patriotic and/or resentful towards other countries. We like you though, also partly for historical reasons, and apparantly because of football.
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@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
i think it is obvious which countries i am talking about, and norway is not one of them. i can add it as 'c' if you want to go and start a discussion about how wonderful norway is though . by the way i think your star should be safe - this is p.e. not politics central and it is mainly sensible people who visit.
@spalladino (17921)
• United States
28 Jan 10
Don't worry Noorweeegun [American redneck spellin], I'll keep an eye on your star, too, and take out the pinky of anyone who tries to pick on it. Never been to your country but you're certainly allowed your shivering misguided opinions. [See my response below cause I'm just messin with ya]
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@Torunn (5504)
• Norway
28 Jan 10
I want a c! *he he* I think I know who you're talking about, but pretending not to is quite funny too ;-) See, we're a bit paranoid up here, we really want someone to talk about us but then we freak out when they do because deep down we realize that anyone who has a clue about Norway is either a spy or one of those crazy Germans that drive to Nordkapp every year. And you don't mess with Norwegian. Either we won't get it, or we will throw our skis at you. I haven't checked out the politics part of Mylot yet, I've seen some discussion about politics online and they weren't pretty. I've also resisted the urge to post a discussion about what p.e. means, as I suppose it has been a few of them already?
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@Lindalinda (4112)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Like someone mentioned it is really impossible to say which country is "the best" until a person has lived there, worked there and gone through the daily or weekly grind of shopping, keeping up with the job, with the children's schooling and paying the bills. However, I would like to state that I live in the best country in the world. I am lucky to be here and I am grateful every day. It is the size and diversity of my country which streches from sea to sea to shining sea that is so appealing. There are magnificent mountains, a mini desert, Northern rain forests, tundra and the high Arctic,maritime fishing villages and endless boreal forests, prairies with the sky so big and wide like you cannot imagine it, a lake with 30 000 islands and so much more. There is freedom of religion, we have churches temples and mosques. There is equality in the workplace, equal pay for equal work, at least in Government and large companies. We have universal health care with all its faults and a social safety net. No one needs to sleep on the streets on a bitter cold or blazing hot day unless they refuse a shelter. We have no conscription and are known as peace keepers in the world. Sadly we have been dragged into a war in Afghanistan due to our membership in Nato, a useless war that no one from the West can win. As for the other two countries on your list I have visited one of them many times, it is nice but a cruel place unless "you have made it". and can afford health insurance. The other one I have not visited. I am sure it is also beautiful but has a lot of frightening aspects. The dowry system still exists even though legally abolished. New brides still die "accidentally" by fire in their inlaws house. While there seem to be great riches as well and many new jobs in technology there seems to be abject poverty as well, poverty so bad that we in the West cannot imagine it. So enough of by bragging....
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
i was trying hard to think of something negative to say about canada (to be annoying, as usual)- so far all i have are your music exports - but i am sure like everywhere there are downsides. it is a country that i would very much like to visit though. i know lots of people from countries a and b, i've visited only b though and lived in neither. there are definitely pros and cons to both.
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Heh, heh, have you ever listened to the music of Celine Dion?
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
sadly yes. and i think canada should apologise for that one.
@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
29 Jan 10
I'm don't have anything to contribute to this topic, but nice red, huh jb....
@jb78000 (15163)
29 Jan 10
thanks for stopping by anyway . hey you have the same avatar as yesterday - you are slipping
@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
1 Feb 10
Haha..maybe coz' I've started to be active in discussions. Maybe. Perhaps. I don't know. Look, I can't promise you anything, jb, I might become a bunny tomorrow, who knows..
@jb78000 (15163)
2 Feb 10
you are still the same today
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@RawBill1 (8541)
• Gold Coast, Australia
28 Jan 10
Love your work! (if you lose that red star, I will do what I can to help you get it back...LOL) Of course we all know that my country is the best! (if you can ignore the government) I have lived in what I am assuming to be country 'B' and I enjoyed my time there, but as soon as I went across the border to the north into the country which I will call 'C', I felt much more relaxed and at home for some reason. I felt safer too. When I drove back into country 'B', I ended up in some not so nice areas by mistake and the calmness evaporated real quick!
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
that is really nice of you bill. i really don't expect it to last though - as well as this i have put a discussion into politics central that will probably annoy country b, country c AND country d. anyway a lot of people who have been to both b and c say similar things, although part of this might be to do with expectations.
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@RawBill1 (8541)
• Gold Coast, Australia
28 Jan 10
Yeah, preconceived ideas and expectations definitely play a part in how much you feel at ease in a place when travelling!
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@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
29 Jan 10
Bill, our plusses for her have been successful then....awesome.
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29 Jan 10
It's a government conspiracy by countries a and b to make there residents feel patriotic knowing that it will p!ss residents of our country [checks profile] off, making us as a nation feel belittled. Why else would it be that our country never gets to save the world in the movies when we are attacked by aliens, natural disasters or meteors!
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
28 Jan 10
Hmmmm....Both country A and B sound like Americans. Maybe I should come back after much more coffee since I can't see any other country in the world like that other than the US
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@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
b is the states. a is india. disclaimer. i am not bashing either. please put down your sawn-off shotguns
@dawnald (84069)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Jan 10
My country, 'tis of thee, Sweet land of liberty, Of thee I sing. Land where we have no queen Wearing that awful green Matching hats must be seen Let blue jeans rein. Ok, enough silly singing. I think it's a human thing, wanting to be first, be best, be right. It's not just countries, but religions, philosophies, etc. Everybody in our religion is going to heaven and YOU are going to hell. My way of thinking is right. And then people are taught that a certain way of thinking is the right way by their parents and other role models. Some people manage to escape anyway and learn to think for themselves. Many don't. As for me, if I disagree with something my country has done, I have no problem saying so. If I'm proud of something my country has done, same thing. But I have no delusions that we're better than anybody else or smarter than anybody else or that this superpower thing is going to last forever...
@jb78000 (15163)
29 Jan 10
also sounds realistic. and adult.
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@dawnald (84069)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Jan 10
except for the singing part
@jb78000 (15163)
29 Jan 10
i was pretending i hadn't seen that
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@celticeagle (123912)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Jan 10
Why wouldn't someone(anyone) be patriotic? In most cases a country inwhich someone lives is their only experience. They know this place from a life time of dealing with its positives and negatives. They usually have no other experience of other countries by which to form an opinion even if they wanted to.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
this is often true. lets face it you are not in a position to say my country is THE BEST!! until you have lived in every other one. and nobody has done this.
@trruk1 (1031)
• United States
28 Jan 10
I live in the United States and it is the best country I have ever lived in, no question about it. It is also the only country I have ever lived in, although I have visited some others.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
nice answer . also it will be the worst country you have ever lived in, the most mediocre, the most interesting and the dullest
@mysdianait (65070)
• Italy
28 Jan 10
These claims that you mention make me smile. As you know I come from UK and live in Italy. You might also know that my siter lives in US. We can both make comparisons between the three countries, something which many of those who are making their claims cannot do and until yuo have actually lived in a place you can only presume things but you have no real proof about what is being said or what you are reading about each place. Having said that if I had to claim that one place is better than another I honestly think it is impossible to do because each place has its pros and cons. If I had to choose where I would want to move to, well that's another thing altogether and my choice would be - a desrt island... except that there would be no internet and I would not be able to point out how great the place was and if I did, then everyone would want either to be there or would start bashing, just to make a few pennies
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
i agree that it is impossible to say one country is better than another - i have lived in several and they all have good and bad points. people often ask which was my favourite and this is a question i really can't answer.
@Torunn (5504)
• Norway
28 Jan 10
You'd have to find an island with satelite connection as part of the fun of having a great time is gloating to those who are stuck somewhere boring ;-)
@mysdianait (65070)
• Italy
28 Jan 10
Yup but then they would want to come and join me there and it would get overcrowded and we would be back to square one again. When I decide to move I am not intending informaing anyone
@spalladino (17921)
• United States
28 Jan 10
Dang, I must have missed that meeting! [Makes note to resent the wabbit's country] My opinion...some folks may be a bit intolerant of other ways of life and other forms of government. I do agree with the poster who said that, if you haven't lived in other countries, you really can't judge the pros and cons very well. However, MY country invented the Big Mac and the Double Whopper with Cheese so, really, HOW can anyone compete with that? Seriously, the U.S. has both her good and bad points but I left the "my [fill in the blank] is better than your's" mentality a long time ago. Don't fret about your star. I have my long rifle aimed at it and if anyone comes close, I'll take off a finger. Just one since I'm in a good mood this morning.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
hmmm. i am going to start a discussion about dreadful things north america has inflicted on an innocent world. tv from mexico, 'food' from the states, and music from canada - what did we EVER do to deserve these?
@spalladino (17921)
• United States
28 Jan 10
If you need any suggestions in the bad American food department, I'm sure I can be of some help. [wipes pork rind crumbs off keyboard]
@Torunn (5504)
• Norway
28 Jan 10
Didn't you also invent pop-tarts, or do I have to blame someone else for them? ;-)
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@bystander (2299)
• Philippines
28 Jan 10
people are always proud of their respective countries. but being proud of your country doesn't necessarily mean you are patriotic. it takes more than that to be so. being patriotic, in word and in deed, entails a lot of responsibilities. saying that you're proud of your country, but do not live it is just lip service.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
hi bystander - what responsibilities and actions do you mean?
@bystander (2299)
• Philippines
29 Jan 10
hi, jb... what i mean is we just don't talk proud of our country, we should show it... something like, patronizing products made in our country. promoting our country -- to visitors and tourists, also to businessmen to do business with out businessmen-countrymen... and surely, there are a lot more, from the mundane to the more complex actions of affirming our pride for the country of our birth...
@bystander (2299)
• Philippines
29 Jan 10
well, astonysh... we can always believe in whatever we think is right for us... that's also true to our country when there are things we really don't like, even despise....
@SteveJi (78)
• China
29 Jan 10
In Chinese culture, no one can be the best, but every one can be better.
@jb78000 (15163)
29 Jan 10
are you talking about people, countries, or both?
• China
1 Feb 10
Yes, I mean both. And actually, it's the same with everything.
@MJay101 (711)
29 Jan 10
Ooohh, nice red star. I've got one too - it's on a badge. But I don't think it means the same thing... I have issues with most countries, but most especially with my own. I'm English, much as it pains me to admit it, and my country has f*cked the world over more times than I'd care to remember. I am not a patriot, and I tend to think that patriotism is just another excuse to divide people for arbitrary reasons...
@jb78000 (15163)
29 Jan 10
well i am not english so i shall blame you lot down there for everything (lets go for even older historical resentment...). however i am british and agree that we have a lot to answer for as a nation.
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@MJay101 (711)
29 Jan 10
Oh, I absolutely agree. It is all the fault of the English. My other half is from Northern Ireland - she should know, like! The sooner Britain is abolished, the better.
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• Australia
28 Jan 10
This reminds me of people I know who always own the best. I think of a friend who thought Holden was the ONLY car and rubbished all other makes - until he bought a Ford and of course IT was the best. Now he owns a Hyundai and found out there is no other car can come anywhere near it: it is FAR superior to all others! Patriotism is a good thing, but blind acceptance is not. Faithfulness and loyalty are good things, but if we are truly loyal we will see errors; accept some and lovingly try to rectify those we can. I am English born and I am proud of my English heritage. I marvel at the greatness of Britain over the centuries. However, I came to Australia when I was 11 years old and I am a true-blue, fair-dinkum Aussie, proud of my country. Australia has long been called "The Lucky Country" and many people have found it to be so. Australia has many faults, but those faults are far outweighed by its benefits. I consider myself to be patriotic. I love Australia, but I do not see Australia as the ONLY "good" country. Every country has its good and bad points and I don't see that we are in a competition to live in the best, but for ME, Australia is my home.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
my daddy is bigger than your daddy, my car is better than your car, my country is THE BEST!! yes there is a certain element of the 6 year old about this way of thinking.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
28 Jan 10
I think people are mainly patriotic about the country of their birth because of years of indocrination. Then the lucky ones get to travel and see and experience other countries and cultures. Opinions often change once one sees up close and first hand exactly how other societies are run. I'm an American and of course I believe my country is the best. In fact, I have traveled to a lot of other countries and still believe America is the best for me. However, I'm equally sure had I been born in Europe, or Asia I would feel the same way. Also, your satisfaction in life has a lot to do with your economic status. Even if one live in a third world nation, if they were a part of the elite class, they would also think their country was the best.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
well i think someone summed it up earlier by saying that different countries suit different people. maybe it is usually the country you were born in but not always. good point about economic status too. what other countries have you been to by the way?
• Philippines
28 Jan 10
my country is not the best, my country is full of corrupted member from the president of this country and also the others. that's why we cannot take some good advantages in our country as of now. the lack of government funds , lack of funds in eduction , there is so many poor people here in my country . that's why i said this. my country is not the best for me and for many people who live in our country.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
i don't think there is such a thing as 'the best country in the world'. nowhere is perfect. my country certainly isn't either.
• Philippines
28 Jan 10
I think it is merely for fun. These guys brag about their countries since they feel great about doing so, its not that they are starting a new war they just want to have fun since the world is suffering from many depressing events. We humans get bored so easily so we do some crazy things like what the representatives you mentioned have done. Theres also a possibility that when they mean their country is the best all they say is that they are lucky people. Their just doing what their minds dictate them to do so.
@jb78000 (15163)
28 Jan 10
[checks profile, not from either] i think that is a good point - it makes them feel better about themselves and with depressing news on all the time i can understand this. i couldn't really do it for mine though [scotland or the uk, depending on your definition of 'country'] because i wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.