I do NOT worship nature.

@hvedra (1619)
February 3, 2010 8:56am CST
Just wanted to clear that up 'cause there's just been a "debate" on the TV where the presenter said that all pagans did and that we would all be celebrating Imbolg on Tuesday. ARGH! Paganism is an umbrealla term for a lot of religious beliefs that can be quite diverse and understandably confusing for non-pagans. However, it also seems that some pagans are confused as well and like to "speak" for paganism as if it was one cohesive belief. *bangs head on desk* If you want to watch what I did it is up on You Tube - just search for Big Question BBC and Paganism and you'll find it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
5 Feb 10
All I know about pagans is that they do not worship God, but worship many gods and goddesses. The Wiccans worship nature, but I suppose there are some pagans who still worship Zeus, Jupiter, Thor, Woden, or whatever. I mean when I think of pagans, I just think of those who worship the old idols. And the ancient Romans who were pagans by the way, took lions, tigers, and bears, oh my, and had them slaughtered for the entertainment of the crowd in the Arena, they sure were not lovers of nature, were they? So just because someone says I believe in the goddess ---does not mean that that person worships nature.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
23 Feb 10
All I know about pagans is that they do not worship God, but worship many gods and goddesses ACTUALLY thats not accurate either! yes SOME do worship numerous gods/goddess' BUT certainly not all of us do..I personally dont worship ANYTHING for starters and secondly I DO NOT see any gods/goddess' as being seperate from me...rather they are each a part of me, different aspects of me, NOT seperate beings if that makes sense.. AND actually there are some Pagans who DO believe in the Christian god but their Pagan path is the stronger part and one step further there are Christians who are also Pagan but their Christian part is the stronger or more dominate part.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
25 Feb 10
I guess that means that you worship yourself, rather a sad state to be in, in that you have nothing outside yourself to compare yourself with to improve your spiritual condition. Now I believe that every god, or goddess, or combination are false gods. And there can be no fellowship with unbelievers with Christians, that means not that we cannot associate with them at work or on myLot but that we cannot marry them and go to places where they would like to go, but we would not - gambling places in Las Vegas. So really those pagans who think they are Christians are not being honest. They are still pagans.
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@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
3 Mar 10
At first I thought. What? All pagans follow the wheel of the year or live off the earth or have some connection to earth in some way. However you are correct. Most pagans do not worship nature. I am a wiccan and I do not worship nature. Worship is a very christian concept. I believe I am part of nature and connected to it. So if I hurt the earth I am hurting myself. I therefore treat the earth with great respect because it is a part of me and me of it. I do not worship it though. Chapters has wiccan books in the occult section. GRRRR.
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• Canada
5 Mar 10
I think I used the concept "wheel of the year" incorrectly. I more meant that most pagans follow the seasons and harvest etc. My understanding is that paganism is based on the ancient traditions which were used when cultivating crops were essential to survival. If they did not have a successful harvest they would starve and die. Also had no scientific information on how things worked so they used gods to represent different aspects that were important to their survival. Pagan traditions who lived in drought stricken areas often prayed to a rain or water god. In the mayan tradition you see a jaguar god. You wouldn't see that in Europe because there are no jaquars in Europe. My understanding of Wicca is that it is a new age religion. It has only been around for 60 years.
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@hvedra (1619)
8 Mar 10
Wheel of the Year is usually used when referring to the neo-pagan "Eight Festivals" so that's why I was a little confused. You are right that deities are often associated with particular creatures or places. This is particularly true in beliefs where polytheism and animism are a feature. This is not to say that the gods "represent aspects", sometimes they are gods who have particular duties or who ARE the landscape. There are certain river gods who ARE the river. Cloda in Scotland is the River Clyde, Sabrina in England is the River Severn. They don't represent the river they are the river.
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@hvedra (1619)
5 Mar 10
The Wheel of the Year is a fairly modern construct. Pagans of many flavours follow seasonal cycles but that can vary greatly depending on where they live and what seasons they experience! My own group does celebrate first planting in February but only if the ground isn't frozen or too wet to actually go out and do the planting. Ditto harvest, it's harvest when the crops are ready not on a particular calendar date. Worship is a very strange word. It does imply bowing down to something which isn't the case in a lot of beliefs. Honouring might be a better word. I think half the problem is that a lot of the books on "Wicca" are not actually about Wicca but a sort of watered down New Agey version.
@urbandekay (18278)
11 Feb 10
Strictly speaking a pagan is someone living in an unbounded piece of land! all the best urban
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@Galena (9110)
3 Feb 10
the BBC don't really know what they're talking about, in short. they oversimplify it.if you look on the BBC religion sub pages you'll see that they very much see Paganism as a sort of very watered down version of Wicca, and not much else.
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@hvedra (1619)
5 Feb 10
I suppose we should be grateful it wasn't King Kev! Watered down Wicca is about right. They never get any Hard Gards in to debate 'cause a) they won't they are under oath and b) they'd eat the others for a light snack!
@celticeagle (189838)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Feb 10
I think the descriptive term 'worship' is incorrect. I give reverence to the Earth that gave me food. I don't worship it , I think it. And 'umberella term' is about it. Not the realistice term but one that covers alot of different things. Bangs head on desk is right!!!!
• United States
16 Feb 10
The media typically messes things up even if they are trying to seem enlightened and knowledgeable about a controversially talked about religion like any under Paganism. Their mistake. I'm sure most Pagans noticed that. Obviously not all Pagans celebrate a path where nature is celebrated and there are so many different variations just under Wicca. I think it is good for people to let them know they made a mistake in their wording.
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