Who is copying whose discussion?

@zandi458 (28102)
Malaysia
February 19, 2010 11:44am CST
Something is very wrong happening lately in mylot. Discussions are deleted by admin on suspicion of being copied from somewhere around the net but the OP claimed that they have been robbed of the rights to their own discussions as someone has apparently stolen their discussions and posted it in a blog. I have come across two such incidents here these two days and surprisingly both pointed to the same blog where their discussions landed. When two people become the victims of this daylight robbery of posts here, would you not think they are the innocent party and the culprit who stole the discussions is am sure a member here who is creating a nuisance here by stealing discussions and posting to her blog making the life of others difficult. I hope admin will investigate this claim seriously and if found to be true that the deleted discussions are the original works of the complainants (mylotters) then it should be reinstated and the blogger who plagiarized should be banned from this site.
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22 responses
@GoAskAlice (5807)
19 Feb 10
zandi458, I'm only aware of one incident and I put the discussion back up because we agreed the discussion was original and the blogger was the person who was doing the stealing. If there's another incident, please make me aware of it so it can be handled appropriately. You say the blogger who plagiarized should be banned from myLot. I agree. However, what if the blogger isn't a member here?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Feb 10
alice I think sometimes some mylotters do not report these things as they are afraid if they make very many reports mylot admins will think badly of them, and I keep saying if this was copied by all means report it to mylot admins Am I not right?
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19 Feb 10
Hatley, you're absolutely right. We don't think badly of members who report. It's the opposite. We encourage it, as stated in the discussion guidelines.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
19 Feb 10
Hi Alice, I brought up this discussion because it can happen to anyone of us here. And before it becomes a serious issue it should be nipped in the bud. This is another recent case http://www.mylot.com/nr/newresponse.aspx?qid=2257710. I am not sure though whether the blogger is a member here but how does she get the latest discussions to be copied to her blog. It must be an inside job. Your presence to this post is appropriate and highly appreciated.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
19 Feb 10
I think you are aware of how I feel about plagiarists I have seen the blog concerned and I very much doubt that the other posts on it are all original. I shall investigate as soon as I have time. If I find stuff from myLot in other places then I have already reported it in the past to whoever was concerned. There are also reviwe sites and other forums where I have seen posts from here placed there as original Plagiarists are lowest from of scum in my books!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
19 Feb 10
I would chop their fingers off so that they can't use a computer anymore!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Diana your help is very much needed here and believe that you have what it takes to be a mylot unofficial detective. You have done great jobs so far to help defenseless mylotters who are victims of plagiarism.
@Emiese (994)
• Sweden
19 Feb 10
You always have such creative ideas as to solve problems MysD! I can only agree
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Feb 10
It is sad that people stoop so slow to do bad things. Seems to be a way of life w/so many anymore. If u have to cheat to have things they should know it's not right. Doing that will come back to bite u sooner or later. I hope it's sooner.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Many of us here are genuine creator of discussions in mylot and people steal their discussions to fill their blogs. Leaving the OP crying foul when they become the victims of their own discussions.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
20 Feb 10
What goes around comes around sooner or later.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
19 Feb 10
Boy! That dosen't seem to be fair at all. I have had more discussions deleted and have so far just looked to see what I did wrong. The last one didn't make sense to me at all. This wouldn't be so serious if it didn't take money away from people but I want them to be very careful before they delete any of our work. It's not easy to keep posting these discussions each day.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
That might be the many reasons behind all these deleted discussions. This discussion today is an eye opener for the admin to scrutinize before dumping discussions in their bins. It takes a great effort to come up with a topic and many find disappointments when they find their efforts gone to waste because of the sinful acts of others.
• Jamaica
19 Feb 10
wow i did not know that this was happening on mylot. i guess no website is ever too safe. i find this quite unfair though and i would encourage these to use their own brains and stop stealing the works of other persons.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
I don't know since when it is happening in mylot but I only come to know about it after reading from the discussions here and getting many deleted responses. The roots of the problems are slowly coming out.
@phoenix8606 (4942)
19 Feb 10
HI! there are many people here who copy someone else's discussions and i even have seen one, who copies other members' discussion and post them in another social network as blog
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Too much of sinful acts sprawling in the net and it is really difficult to put a stop on all this evil works.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 Feb 10
We get ppl like this every so often. They think that it's easier to steal someone else's ideas then to think of their own. It's irritating but eventually they get caught. Hopefully MyLot will take steps to make sure the right person is caught and not the innocent party. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 10
This is exactly what happen here. A misunderstanding happened when the original writer had her post deleted because of plagiarizing. The admin should look at it carefully before deleting a discussion.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Feb 10
hi zandi if this is true then mylot has to do some real investigating and find out who the mylotter is who is doing this sneaky mean hearted plagarizing and ban him or her from the mylot site. zandi this gives all of us a bad name until they find the person who thinks she can steal others works and get away with it. I had not realized this was going on as I do not do blogging and haven't much knowledge of how to even create a blog.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
I got a recent notification that my response was deleted along with the discussion. Looking at the post it wasn't at all 'against the law' here as it was talking about lottery. Now it makes me think whether it was also being copied out which left the poor poster being accused of plagiarizing. I fear many discussions will be deleted if this thief is going to extract many more discussions here for her blog contents. It is a shame that this has to happen to a good site like this where discussions are deleted for no faultS of the OP.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
20 Feb 10
zandi, i could also believe that this is an inside job, meaning, the plagiarizer is a mylotter too. how can an outside blogger able to report a mylot discussion accusing one as the plagiarizer. isn't an outsider can post, rate and report? so if he is not one of us, the most that he can do is to read and copy the post... good thing, GAA acknowledged the motion to reinstate the discussion that was removed for alleged plagiarizing. i am sure we have to do something about this crime going on here. has GAA already had plans to stop this, aside from reporting the abusive acts to them?
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
I hope everything is well taken care of and we can continue our fun here.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
20 Feb 10
yes alice, that's what i have in mind too. it couldn't be the blogger but the blogger could also be a mylotter.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
22 Feb 10
It would be very unfair if the original poster was robbed of the right to his own discussion. If someone has stolen his discussion and posted it in his blog then the person who did that deserves to be punished. I just wish myLot would know how to find out who is who? Who posted the topic first and then who obviously copied it. Here at myLot it is very common to see the same topics and although there are copiers I believe there are also those who posted the same topic without really copying. It is just that the topic just came out of their thoughts and then they posted it without bothering to check the previous topics. I myself have posted some topics which are not copied but later I found out the topic has similarities to those previously posted. I don't really feel guilty about those similarities because I did not copy them anyway. However if the topic is copied word for word then that is a different issue. The person who plagiarized really deserved to be banned from this site.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 10
We cannot avoid having duplication of discussions in this vast population here but extracting from someone's post to call their own is wrong and should be condemned. The original writer is penalized for no fault of hers and wrongly accused of plagiarizing. This isn't fair.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
22 Feb 10
That is so appalling! In came across a discussion from someone who has had her post stolen and deleted by our admin because it appeared she had plagiarised it but it was actually the other way around! It is so mean of someone to steal another’s work like that and make out it’s theirs! As a writer I hate plagiarism more than anything. I do hope that MyLot admin will take this situation seriously, investigate and get rid of the thief that is stealing our good member’s hard work!
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
23 Feb 10
Read Response #2, Paula. You will see that Admin (in the person of GoAskAlice) are very ready to investigate and to correct wrongful deletions. They do need to be informed, however!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 10
If this is happening here and discussions are wrongly deleted, I am afraid we are going to face more problems in future with this plagiarizing issue.
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@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
21 Feb 10
Who is copying whose discussion. When someone finds a discussion which has a highest rate of responds, they will try to reinvent it for their own benefit even it is really obvious that it is not their own idea. Money is earned here in MyLot every discussion you make and responds it has. "Money is the root of evil but so without it."
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Feb 10
This is the worse thing that can happen to anybody when their discussions are copied and used in other sites.
@Aaleexix (2290)
• India
20 Feb 10
I like to read quality less original writing than to read the posting of stolen materials. But in every field there are some culprit who are involved with such cheap thinking. But this is like to celebrate birth day ceremony with others candle. There is only one solution that all the user of this site should put their eyes on such plagiarized writing and should report if any such incident comes to the notice. In every field we need to survive such adverse situation. After detection of such material only the deletion is the solution. It is against the healthy nature of writing. But as all the people are not saint so it is inevitable. Nevertheless to minimize such incident here in mylot we the user has to play our role along with the admin.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Yes, human errors is a common phenomena in this world. Now I know why many of my discussions just land in mylot bins. I may have been a victim myself which I am not well aware of until someone pour out the can of worms.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Now it is not the fault of members here when their hard work were wrongly deleted by admin as they are the victims of plagiarism. I have experienced having my responses deleted when discussions get deleted because of this menace.
@Aaleexix (2290)
• India
20 Feb 10
It is right that due to some limitation in every system some innocent people are also victimized. It is very sad and only can be apologized. It is the limitation of human that in every step justice can't provide to all. In the law system also some people are punished wrongly. All punished people are not guilty. And in the determination of the right and wrong we the people has some limitation. We need to consider it. It is best if none innocent are punished. But all the human system has some human error. And here also not being wrong some user has to face some wrong judgment. Particularly in this context deletion is may be based on the report. Admin received the report on those and convinced by the report admin delete those. But is considerable that admin has also some limitation to determined what is wrong and what is right. And the fault is occurred in that perplexity of determination. But there must some people with bad intention behind it. And to keep the standard of the site it need to figure out those people.
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@srjac0902 (1170)
• Italy
3 Mar 10
In such a case it would be delicate that the administration sends the message to the concerned person asking for an explanation instead of deleting first and then sending the information.After all certain members are here from long and have impressed the readers with valid arguments. Or else if they myLot administration has detected plagiarism, it is better challenge the administration of that blog. Why the administration of the particular blog investigate too?
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 10
It is really a difficult situation to find out who the real culprit is. Even when they approach the blog admin, they too are in the dark.
@srjac0902 (1170)
• Italy
3 Mar 10
O.K But for deleting on what proof? at least there should be some arrangement for the posting hour
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 10
I think admin has been a little reckless here on deleting discussions. They act immediately upon receiving public complains.
@GardenGerty (157494)
• United States
20 Feb 10
I messaged the young lady, saying she needed to discuss this with MyLot, and she already had, and the discussion was already reinstated. She says that she is at least going to do a date and MyLot time on her new posts so that she can always prove when she posted it first. I think this goes to show how responsive Mylot is to its membership and that we can discuss the issues that are happening in the community.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
You did the right thing to help her out as her case is genuine. I think there are many more like her who has their discussions deleted without being defended. They just surrender to the admin actions.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Feb 10
I think I saw the other person's discussion about this. Anyway I hope GoAskAlice has addressed the issue to your satisfaction...
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Alice is the best person to handle this matter. I am sure she is working on it now.
@Emiese (994)
• Sweden
19 Feb 10
I have missed this "problem" apart from what I have read in this discussion. I have to say that I agree with the general feeling, that it is not okay to copy discussions etc. But I still have to play the devils advocate a bit. I had a quick check through the guidelines (I apologize if I missed this, it was just a quick glance) and I cannot see anywhere that anything is said about copyright. If myLot feel strongly about the discussions they should either claim the "rights" of the discussions (like Facebook did with pictures). If the discussions is meant to be owned by the users, this should also be noted in the users agreement when one sign up. Because normally, unless you claim the right to a text, write the little (c) etc it is not automatically copyrighted, and anyone can use it. I hope I am wrong, but it doesn't feel like it. But, as I said, I still find it very bad that people do copy and use these discussions.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Your suggestion is great and hope admin look into the copyright issue so we won't end up victims of plagiarizing.
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
hi it is so hurtful for the creator of those discussions , their 'intelectual property' is so valuable, those people who copied hem should have some 'responsibility' on the usageof others prroperty without permission .. mylot should also check on the 'time stamp' off those discussion, if ,ylot dscussion was the first to create, it will definatly have time difference with the ones appearing at the blog cheers
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
I don't think mylot has all the time to go to in depth investigation like that. Unless the OP make a lot of sound when her discussion is unfairly deleted for no fault of hers.
@rosekiss (30380)
• Eugene, Oregon
19 Feb 10
Anybody who plagiarizes other peoples idscussions, are very lazy to think of ones on their own. They are moth likely copying them and saying they are the onws that thought of the discussions. They don't really want to take the time to think of hteir own topics. I have a hard time coming up with my own too, but I certainly won't plagiarize other discussions to have some to post. I just think it is all so stupid, and I agree that if they are a member in mylot, they should be banned. We certainly don't need those kind of people in here that is for sure. I would much rather do what I am doing than go and post someonen else's discussions, as that is that to me is just not right. I will never do that to anyone, that is for sure. It is like diana said that anyone who plagiarizes is scum. Good luck to you and happy mylotting.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Hopefully this problem will be dealt with seriously before it become cancerous.
@machizmo (279)
• United States
20 Feb 10
Did they not say they wbere gonna have a different mylot. You would be suprised how often stuff can change. I have not checked on stuff as much as of late to see what would come of these changes.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Feb 10
Definitely the upgrade has seen a lot of changes in mylot and that come with a heavy price when what supposed to be the property of mylot has been stolen and used in other places much to the annoyance of the original poster of the discussions.