Experiment

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
March 19, 2010 1:25pm CST
Let's just say you go to an art museum. The art museum has decided to post tags that show the approximate current market value of each item. Would this distract you from looking at the art? Do you think it would influence your opinion of the different pieces? Do you think knowing the value would affect the opinions of other people? What if they were sneaky and didn't post the right prices at all, but mixed them up? I guess the point is, how much do you think commercialization actually affects the popularity of art, music, literature and other creative things in this world?
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18 responses
• United States
19 Mar 10
I am one of the luckier ones. I see beauty in very ordinary things, so I would have an appreciate for any type of art, (including some people's posts on mylot), no matter what the monetary value associated with it is. I think this would be a rad experiment to try with a hidden camera with a focus group or something. I would love to see how people react. Great question!
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• United States
19 Mar 10
* appreciation (typo)...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
I would be interesting, wouldn't it?
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• Australia
19 Mar 10
I? Yes Dawn, you are always interesting!
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@much2say (53941)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Mar 10
I do think a price tag would be distracting, but I don't think it would change my opinion of a piece art. I am an artist myself (a commercial one by ex-profession, a fine artist at heart) . . . so I can mostly see art for what it is and don't get influenced by other people's opinions about that. I can put pieces into the category of my likes and dislikes . . . but really my interest goes into how the artist developed into that particular style (that takes a little more homework). So I appreciate the "history" of the artist and how that piece came to be. Not all art is "pretty", nor is it meant to be . . . so I understand it's hard for many to "get" art. The value of art? Bah. It's all in what the highest bidder is willing to pay. I don't have all the money in the world, so for me, it's all about what I like.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
If anything, a high price tag on something I absolutely hate would be great fun to make fun of. But it certainly wouldn't influence my opinion of (or feelings about) the piece.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
Unless they can get a copy cheaper. I got a pretty decent copy of one of Franz Marc's paintings for $150 from one of the museum stores....
@much2say (53941)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Mar 10
Hey, I think I'm pretty good at making art "copies". So what if I found people who wanted certain art pieces but couldn't afford the real ones. I can take a museum trip with these "clients" and have them pick out their pieces. If a painting or sculpture has a price tag of $750,000 . . . then I can tell them I can do it for, um maybe $7500. A price tag could be a quite useful for opportunists - hee hee!!
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
25 Mar 10
I go to art museums out of pure curiosity for what I find there. I'd be curious to see the painting Blue Poles because of how much it cost and considering it's an abstract that looks thrown together. To me, the value of a piece is interesting but irrelevant to whether or not I like the piece. I'm probably more inclined to like worthless stuff. When it all boils down, I know nothing about are but I do know what I like.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Mar 10
No, don't hang it. lol
@stealthy (8181)
• United States
19 Mar 10
It probably wouldn't affect me much. Unfortunately there are way too many people that something like that would affect. You see it all the time with music, movies, celebrities; so I'm sure it happens with art, also. I could give several examples of celebrities that the majority think are beautiful, handsome and/or talented that I don't think are at all but I guess I should avoid naming names, etc.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
lol I like the idea mentioned about about a hidden camera experiment!
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Mar 10
No, it wouldn't distract me from looking at them. I would know before i went in i couldn't afford any of them so that wouldn't bother me aata all. In fact i'd like to see what they were worth.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
Actually, that would be interesting, but it wouldn't change my opinion on whether or not I liked something. In fact, I can see Dearra and I standing there making fun of the two million dollar painting that we both really hate!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
Of course we would, and especially Dearra! :-)
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Mar 10
U two probably would.. the price wouldn't have anything to do /whether i liked it or not.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
22 Mar 10
This is a really good discussion, dawn! Market values would distract me but I doubt it would make me less appreciative of the things I like. I look at ordinary things in the stores and I find that I like what I like; sometimes it’s something that costs a small fortune and sometimes it’s a two dollar object. I don’t make much sense of pricing and paying for labels anyway. Some people, like my parents, for example, judge things by their price; I've seen my mother put an item back on the shelf because it was too cheap, regardless of the fact that she quite liked it, to me that is ridiculous! I would imagine items in a museum or an art gallery would be very unpredictable in their prices whether they put the right tags on them or not!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
That's funny, now if I had found an item that I really liked and the price was lower than I expected, I would snap it up and be pleased that I got a bargain!
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
20 Mar 10
That would certainly distract me from enjoying the art. I think thats pretty cheesy. Even art galleries that sell the pieces do not have it showing.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
cheesy yeah, but it would be an interesting experiment on Candid Camera
• United States
20 Mar 10
There is no value you can put on an art piece that will make me like it! Art , like religion, is a personal thing. Either you are moved by a piece or you are not! I guess all this value tage are forart collectors. some are just in it for the money Only! I can never see buying a piece of art I don't like or can't bear to see Just to profit from it! But then again I would buy pieces that Move me and I would Never , Ever sell them.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
Yep, very personal. Music and poetry and plays and so on too...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Mar 10
The phrase "price of everything and value of nothing" springs to mind Dawn. In any case, some things are priceless and I don't see how you could apply a price tag to them. But there is no doubt that there is a commercial interest in "culture" and that it drives many aspects Especially music and definitely literature. They say that the most powerful person in literature here is the chief buyer for a company called Waterstones - the largest bookshops in the UK. That means that they decide what we get to read and that decision is based entirely on likely sales. That's kind of scary.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
Scary not only for us but for the people trying to make a living by writing...
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• Philippines
20 Mar 10
Interesting topic Me, I am an (amateur) artist myself. I would be curious about those price tags but I won't let those tags tell me which artwork to look at. I think commercialization would affect art. I won't let it affect me but usually, most people do. It always seems that the higher value the artwork has, the better it is. As the old saying goes, "beauty depends on the eye of the beholder".
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
Aha, I lured a real, live artist in. lol What kind of work do you do?
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
Drat - links blocked at work due to being "entertainment". :-( will try and remember to look tonight, and thanks for sharing!
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
I am actually a registered nurse because I need to be I plan to take an art course when I earn enough for tuition, or maybe get a student loan. Mostly, I do cartoon and Japanese anime drawings. I would love to take animation. Sometimes, I try to go beyond and would work on drawing portraits. I would love to improve my craft but I don't know how. I hope that day where I go to art school would come. Just thought I'd share some of my works here: http://hirokada.deviantart.com/art/Batman-and-Robin-1-150146866 http://hirokada.deviantart.com/art/Suzaku-Shichiseishi-3-116408037 http://hirokada.deviantart.com/art/Matthew-Perry-61852936 http://hirokada.deviantart.com/art/John-Cusack-3-High-Fidelity-87940638
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@mimiang (3760)
• Philippines
20 Mar 10
We appreciate art in the museums. We don't care how much it is now except for those who want to buy them. The price tags would only amuse us. that is all.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
yeah I could see it being pretty amusing, especially a high price tag for something I really don't like!
@LadyBoss (253)
• United States
20 Mar 10
Yes. I think that posting the tags would distract some people. Because if they were there, then people people would only be focusing on the art piece. And not the price.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
or the other way around?
@vandana7 (99102)
• India
20 Mar 10
Honestly, a lot! :) Most people cannot visualize how a picture would look in their homes! At times it is much too large or much too small, or the color of the wall is not right, or other objects in the room are more distracting when compared to the picture, and so on. But they buy it anyway, as an investment that could be sold at a later date. Same holds true for other art forms as well.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Mar 10
I don't visualize how a picture looks in my home. I simply like it or I don't like it. Yes, I've read Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged both. Long time ago, though.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 10
I would too, or move the painting...
@vandana7 (99102)
• India
20 Mar 10
Did you ever read Ayn Rand's "Fountainhead"?
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• United States
15 Apr 10
Good thought experiment, mixing up the prices. I do think there are many people who think more expensive equals better. Look how people rushed to buy houses when they were overpriced, and now hesitate to buy them now that they are underpriced (maybe). The gold market seems to work the same way. Gold is now a good investment in some people's minds just because it costs much more than it did last year. There's no logic here, but a lot of psychology.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Apr 10
Not logical, nope. I remember when housing prices were going up in 1989 and people were buying like crazy so they'd get in before the market got too high. And then it crashed... I know at least three people who walked away from their homes that time.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Apr 10
I like some abstract art. Just depends on the piece...
• United States
15 Apr 10
Yes. So it follows that anyone who wants to buy some art, any millionaire I guess, should choose unpopular art, whatever that is, so that it is relatively cheap. I hesitate to say cheap about anything in a museum, actually. Maybe non-abstract art is inexpensive. Pictures of actual stuff. We all laugh at abstract art, but I like it in jewelry and also in music. Music might be the most abstract art, and everyone likes it. It's not expensive either. Music is art anyone can own.
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• Australia
19 Mar 10
I seldom agree with judges when it comes to art. I think it would add interest to see a price tag, but it wouldn't influence me in any way (unless it was to laugh at such a high price for such a hideous painting eg). However, I know a number of people whose criteria would be either the artist/author/whatever or the price. I like looking in homewares shops, at all the decor things, ornaments etc. I am astounded at the prices asked for some items, but it doesn't influence my liking or disliking of the object. I have figurines by Royal Doulton and I love them, but no more than my figurines which are made in China and cost very little. In fact, the facial features on the cheap ones are better than on the expensive ones.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
Either it strikes me or it doesn't. I'm not very good at analyzing it!
@BarBaraPrz (45665)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
19 Mar 10
To paraphrase Horton: I like what I like And I don't what I don't. There are many pricely things that I do not like and other "worthless" things that I do.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
Yup me too!
• Australia
19 Mar 10
The only way it may affect me is, if something was really a thing of beauty that I loved, and had a price of less than a grand on it, I'd be wishing I could afford it. However if something was outragiously expensive, and it was something I didn't really care for (like some forms of pop art), my thoughts would drift too who would waste that much money on it, and wouldn't they be wiser to spend that much feeding the poor?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
Or if it was something I really loved, but outrageously expensive, I might be complimenting myself on my good taste.
28 Mar 10
I was at an art gallery exhibition today looking at the works of a famous Spanish modern artist today and I really didn't enjoy what I was looking at. Seriously I was thinking that I could have created the very same pieces myself. I would have actually been interested in how much they were worth on the open market, because it would probably be the only way I could have appreciated the pieces. I am in no doubt that commercilaism affects the popularity of art, music and so on. The more exposure something gets the more popular it becomes in my opinion.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Mar 10
It's almost as if people feel they have to like something if it's popular...