Christian militia accused of plotting to kill cops......
By shamsta19
@shamsta19 (3224)
United States
March 30, 2010 12:27am CST
I have been reading several versions of this article today and I noticed something very peculiar. In all of the articles I read (about 5 or 6 so far today) none of them uses the label "terrorists" when describing this group, yet this IS down and out terrorism at it finest. Yet if this were an Islamic group I guarantee they would be deemed as terrorists in a heartbeat.
Let me be the first if no one else will, to label these people as terrorists, and (OH MY GOD) they are using the banner of Christianity as there reasoning to set off bombs and kill police officers!! Yes right here in the good ol' U S of A! Can you believe it?
So now I guess the only thing to do, since these people are obviously TERRORISTS, is to label all Christians as terrorists right? I mean if this group was planning something like this in the name of Christianity, then they must all be plotting something. Maybe we should go over to Rome and bomb the Catholic Church now, because they obviously are hiding weapons of mass destruction over there right?
We should tally up all Christians now and put them on the "no fly list" because they are obliviously dangerous individuals. And all Christian churches are recruiting stations for terrorists as well so we need to keep an eye on them and defame them at every possible moment.
I guess I sound utterly ridiculous right? I thought we were having a war on terror? Well round em up, I'm afraid of them all now..
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9 responses
@jdyrj777 (6530)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I hear ya. Christanity is about love, unity and brotherhood. These people you are talking about are not true christians. Even Jesus told his disples to put down their weapons when they wanted to fight for his life. Studing the holy scriptures can make anyone see that these murders are not true christians. I do not understand what book they are learning from but for sure its not the Bible.
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@jdyrj777 (6530)
• United States
30 Mar 10
If they are truely christian they would not be doing those things period. One of the 10 commandments says thou shall not kill. There is nothing included like; (except in the case of). The scriptures also say vengence is for Jahovah. Any one practicing murder can not be with the true God. Any way when Jahovah's kingdom comes he will be the one to put an end to the human governments because Jesus is going to be the king over all us. We wont need police either because as the holy scriptures say no badness will not come to mind. The earth will eventually be transformed into the paridise earth that Jahovah originally intended it to be. All that stuff thats happening now is a sign of the end of things as we know them. Soon when we pray for God's kingdom to come, God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven...will be a eality. Believe or not. Jahovah will deal with all that mess soon.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Mar 10
You both make very good points though. But to deal with your comment jdyrj, I am not questioning the intentions of Christianity as a way of life at all. I was just making a sarcastic observation about our current way of thinking and the media's influence on that thinking. I think had this been a group of Muslim, the media would have jumped all over it and branded them as terrorists before the were even questioned.
I believe a "true" Muslim, Christian or whatever wouldn't be doing these things, especially not in the name of their respective religions or ways of life.
And TrashQueen, I don't know about you but in the communities where I was born and raised, we don't share the same view of the police as you do. Traditionally the police were often the worst gangs in the city. Police brutality is a norm in our neighborhoods.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Mar 10
But there are good cops out there as well. And just to target random police may not be the way to go about things you think?
Perhaps jd is right as well.. The time is drawing near for the Devil's kingdom and all these things will eventually come to pass.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
30 Mar 10
But Bible does not say to kill anybody who is not Christian. In fact is says that we should evangelize. ya know, there were men in that group, I am now afraid of all men. I saw people with hair in the mug shots. I am now afraid of people with hair.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
2 Apr 10
I am sorry, I will try to clarify. Yes laws are written in the old testament but a lot of those were washed away with the sacrifice of Christ. The crucifixion washed away our sin. That is what the new testament entails. It is important to know the old to understand the new. Did this help? I am a fairly new Christian, anymore, I may have to call in the cavalry!
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
1 Apr 10
No disrespect, but I don't understand what you mean by that Old Testament statement. The Old Testament is where several laws were laid down for Christians to follow. To ignore the relevance of the Books of the Old Testament would be foolish if one was studying the Bible, not saying that you have, just I didn't quite understand where you were coming from.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
30 Mar 10
It is terrorism, and I think that it is ridiculous that the word "terrorist" isn't being used on them because it should be. This Christian Militia is a group of terrorists.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
1 Apr 10
Bottom line, hands down, it is terrorism. It should never have been labeled as anything but.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I find it interesting that the Christian connection is the main tag given this group. Nothing is mentioned about the economic level of the people involved. Michigan has a very high unemployment rate and so does the rest of the rust belt. and this is the main reason given for the middle Eastern Terrorist groups. Most of the men came from states that have Democrat Governors.
Lets face it these men are a fringe group using religion to justify their actions, just like the Muslims who are terrorist, and should be treat the same.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Mar 10
Precisely my thought process on this but also we must understand that this group of people, nor any group of Islamic terrorists, should be used as an example of all people of that particular way of life. Right now there seems to be a major prejudice of people of the Islamic faith, to the point anyone of middle eastern descent or anyone with an Arabic name is automatically put under scrutiny. I am not saying we are not to be suspicious of Islamic terrorists but Islam should not be unjustly accused for the mistakes of one minority group of nutjobs...
@celticeagle (159058)
• Boise, Idaho
30 Mar 10
I don't put anything past terrorists. And these extremists feel their fight is the only one and what their doing is the right fight. They don't merely go under the cover of christians but these killers are like the KKK that killed those little girls in Alabama back in the 60's. It all begins with hate and gets out of control.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
1 Apr 10
Great point. And thank you for that response. I cannot speak of this groups motives though or their reasoning. My argument though is how they were labeled in the media (or how they weren't labeled). Terrorism cannot have exceptions and we cannot twist the meaning of the word when it suits us. I am just taking a look at how things were handled with this story.
And had it been a group of Muslim, I wonder how this story would have played out?
@kittykatxox845 (20)
• United States
31 Mar 10
i don't think they count as terrorists...criminals yes!!!! terrorists no...unless all criminals are terrorists. and it stands to reason that all terrorists are criminals right?...right?
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
1 Apr 10
This is exactly the issue. Why are these people not considered terrorists? If the Taliban bomb a building they're terrorists. When extremists blow up an abortion clinic, they too are labeled as terrorists. What makes this group an exception? Why are they not considered the same if in fact they are practicing terrorist activities?
I see no difference at all..
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
30 Mar 10
Terrorism is about killing innocent people at random.
Plotting to kill a select group is not terrorism.
It is war pure and simple.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Mar 10
The American Heritage Dictionary defines terorism as :
ter·ror·ism (tr-rzm)
NOUN:
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
I do not think it matters what people are involved, or if any particular group need be involved. But whether it is terrorism or war we are dealing with the same thing here and the double standard that is perpetrated in the media everyday. My gripe is why is Islam under attack in the media so much? When did it become mete to defame an entire way of life because of the mistakes of a small group?
@TrashQueen (107)
• United States
30 Mar 10
Excellent use of satire & tongue-in-cheek. My hat's off to you for your perception.
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@peaseniz (94)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I do agree you have a very good point and argument. There is a double standard and it is ridiculous and just plain stupid. People will say they are extremists but so was the taliban and this "war on terror" makes no sense anyway seeing as Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. But that is a whole other rant. That group was terrorists and the fact places refuse to label them as such just goes to show you the double standard.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Mar 10
This is exactly what I was leading to. It actually goes beyond just the double standard. I think there is a more sinister objective at hand when Islam is involved but we will just leave it there for now... Thank you for your response.
