Honest Or Not?

@tessah (6617)
United States
April 6, 2010 7:18am CST
that is the question.. ive been told lately by quite a few.. that im "too honorable" too honest. and that it isnt getting me anywhere. that i should do whatever is necessary to get what i want.. regardless of ethics, morals and the code i happen to not only live by.. but teach my children to live by as well. how could i possibly teach my children honesty is the ONLY way.. even if its the hard way.. and then turn around myself and not live by it? could i even look them in the eye again? could i even look at my reflection without disdain? i dont beleive i could. could you?
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12 responses
• Philippines
6 Apr 10
Well, you're right about telling your kids about honesty but whoever told you that you'Re too honest is right too. See, you can't live by being honest all the time. It's not a bad thing if you lie to protect a loved one or to save your life. I'd rather lie than get fired. You see where i'm coming from?
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
6 Apr 10
i do see where yer comin from. but the way i look at it.. if ive done something to get fired, 1) im not a very decent person to even have the job (depending on what the accusation is, ie lying, stealing etc) and B) i should own up to my mistakes rather than compound the problem by not taking responsibility for my actions. so me? id take the hit and get myself fired rather than lie protecting a loved one is pretty much what this discussion is started over. which is why im having the ethical dilema in the first place. wanting to protect my child.. or betraying everything i am and everything she expects me to be as well in the process.
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• Philippines
6 Apr 10
Alright. So you really never lie? Not one time?
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
6 Apr 10
i have lied in the past.. yes. and learned the lesson HARD from doing so.
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• United States
7 Apr 10
How can you be too honest? Either you're honest, or you're not. You are living your life the right way, and doing what you should be doing. If everyone lived like that, then this world would not be the dispicable place it has turned into. We have plenty of dishonest people who will stab you in the back or cut your throat in order to move ahead or get what they want. Too many people. You are a good person. Keep on doing what you've been doing, and teach your kids to do the right thing. Getting what you want means nothing if you had to lie, cheat or steal to get it. You wouldn't be able to enjoy it anyways. Better to be able to look yourself in the mirror and know that you did the right thing.
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• Canada
7 Apr 10
I like your philosophy and I agree with you 100%. Glad there are more like us around. Was beginning to feel like an outcast. Not that it bothers me, but just sayin.
@tessah (6617)
• United States
7 Apr 10
im having to agree
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• India
7 Apr 10
No Tessa, neither could I but believe me, if you are 100% honest all the time then you are a FOOL! My mom too lived her life like you…not only was scared of lying, she thought of lying as a sin, she was more scared and mortified at the very thought of somebody finding out her lies than actually lying and she took an undue pride of the fact that she came from a family where nobody lied and where the parents first motto of life was ‘honesty is the best policy’…I don’t know how she managed her daily life and office and such but she brought me up that way and I paid very heavy price for it in every turn in my own dealings with people. I was considered a simpleton, made a laughing stock by ‘smarter’ people and in general people wouldn’t trust me with any complicated assignments coz I was too ‘straightforward’…so believe me Tessa, a little lying is not a sin…it is but a weapon in self-defence. However, deliberately and continuously lying to further our own cause is definitely a vice and it is upon us to teach our kids that subtle difference. I too have a 10yr old son and I too tell him not to lie or cheat but I also try and teach him little tricks which I think will help him in sticky situations….tricks which I learnt from watching people around me and how they tackled situations and escaped unscathed while me the fool was left behind for the brickbats LOL Of course I must thank my mom for giving me a good upbringing so that I did not get carried away…I knew where and when to draw the line … I think Tessa you too should adopt such a line. Give your kids good values so that they themselves will know where to stop but also tell them how imperative it is to manipulate certain situations and it would be in their own benefit to do so.
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
7 Apr 10
im sorry.. i cannot agree with you that teaching yer children to manipulate for their own benefit is a "good" thing. i might be a "fool' but my word can be trusted always.
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• Canada
7 Apr 10
I know where you are coming from and I have been there, many times myself. People tell me I am 'too honest' all the time. I don't make the b.s. niceties (little white lies) that make people feel better either. Lying is lying. Why would I tell my girlfriend that 'yes, that dress makes you look nice', only for her to find out later that it actually does not? I have to practice what I preach. I preach honesty, so I practice it. I can't help it any longer. It is just part of my nature now. I am told that I can be 'brutally honest' because often I don't have enough tact. I'm trying to be a bit better at that, but it is hard sometimes. I tell it like I see it. And unfortunately the truth isn't always tactful, but lies are. Besides, I've never been able to lie worth a shyte anyway. I tried a few times when I was younger and it always backfired on me, so I never got any practice to get good at it. So, why start trying now? Everyone who knows me knows I am like this, so it is either like me the way I am or not, plain and simple. Life is much simpler when things are black and white. It is the grey areas that people have trouble with. I've been in similar moral dilemmas where a lawyer has told me to tell little white lies in court. I quite simply can't do it. The truth has always worked for me, so I'm sticking with it. Judges appreciate the truth above all things, trust me. They are trained in being able to tell if someone is lying or not. They aren't infallable, but they are pretty good at it. I remember one time when my ex was driving MY CAR, drunk, and we had an accident. He and his friend that was in the back seat, BOTH lied to the judge and told him I WAS DRIVING. Why did the judge believe ME? I told the truth, but the guys thought that if both of them lied, it would be 2 against 1. They were wrong. Go with your heart, my dear. You are not a liar, so no reason to start now.
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• Canada
7 Apr 10
Well, if you are anything like me, and I know you are in this dept for sure, then, yes, I know how many times you've been told that you are too honest and life is not black and white, because so have I. I just tell them, "like it or lump it, that is how I am so you better get used to it." At least they can trust my word. Because when push comes to shove, everyone who knows me will come to ME for the HONEST answer because they know I won't mince words and give them dishonest platitudes. I have to believe that it will come around to 'his' turn to be screwed. It just doesn't have to be by your hand or more importantly, by your dishonesty. You'll be happy when it does and do a super duper happy dance. Just like sparks is doing now. It took awhile for her ex's horseshoes up his butt to finally come loose, but they are and it is finally his 'turn' to be the screw-ee instead of the screw-er. You don't need any of the bad karma coming your way, so just keep on doing what you do. Be true to yourself, and your sprite will grow up realizing that you didn't sacrifice your morals 'just to win'.
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
7 Apr 10
annie.. do you know how many times ive been told life is NOT black & white? that im NOT "normal" that i needed to lower my standards and ethics and come down to other peoples lvls or id always be disapointed because NO ONE can live up to what i expect? he is lying.. and from the looks of it.. winning because of it. i keep trying to keep faith, that justice and truth will out and prevail in the end. be strong, for not only myself, but for my sprite.. and all that i teach her of right and wrong, and that black & white, and the simplicity of it all.. will prove itself.
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@tomitomi (5429)
• Singapore
6 Apr 10
hi tessah, if you believe in what you do, listen to your heart and go for it. honesty is sacred, selfless, time-tested and inspirational. i know i'v made lots of mistakes in my life before but i love to hear my heart now. and just like you i wish to look into my children's eyes without any feeling of guilt. good luck.
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
6 Apr 10
my heart is in two different directions right now.. which is why im having this conflict. its hard to listen to both sides of one.. when others are pushing me too.
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@tinajjm (24)
• China
7 Apr 10
Firstly,it's right for you to tell your children to be honesty,and I admire you for your honesty.But in our country ,an old scholar had said that never tell others of whole the truth.You know sometimes truth is cruel.For example, your friend xxxx behaviour badly in a competition .But when she asks you of her performence,you'd better tell her that "well done!!"you lie coz you want her be happy . It's impractical for us to tell the truth all around our life .As long as your motivations are kind . Just tell your children to be honesty and they will learn how to use truth correctly by themselves ias they grow up. In my opinion,the most important thing to you now is relaxion.Tell yourself that my motivation is kind ,I have never hurt anyone. Marry you happy every dayO(n_n)O~~
@SViswan (12051)
• India
7 Apr 10
I do not believe in doing whatever it takes to get me where I want to. It might be the easier way...and things I want might get done...but I won't be able to live with my conscience for long and then what's the point of gaining what I did by lying? And like you pointed out...unless I set an example how would my kids learn to be honest? But I don't judge others who do whatever it takes to get wherever they want to...unless it is by harming someone else.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
13 Apr 10
No I bloodywell couldn't. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box or the sharpest pencil but I'm fricken honest. I do some dumb things and I stuff up badly but I'll own up to it. I do right by people and I'm straight. I do that because that's how I would like to be treated...even though I'm not treated right all the time, I still do the ethical thing. I still prefer to set a good example to all I meet. I lost my life's savings and my business because I was too honest. I didn't lie and cheat either my staff or my customers. I paid the staff their due, on the books...not cash in hand with the threat of loss of your job if you didn't like the way things are. I believed the lies I was told and I trusted my staff. I simply did not know how to run my business dishonestly. I only knew how to do it right... the big lesson learned was that I was too soft and too honest to run a business.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
6 Apr 10
you some tell me the samething i am too honest. i dont belive in going out there and using someone else to get what i want. i want to be the kind of person who is honest and work hard for what i want to get out of life. all i can say you just keep doing what you are doing and raise your kids this way because when you lay down your head at night you will have a clear soul
@tessah (6617)
• United States
6 Apr 10
thats the way im leaning.. thanx
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• Philippines
7 Apr 10
The only reason people tell you that you won't get anywhere is because the people who do get somewhere are those that cheat, lie, and all that other stuff. It's hard to get left behind by someone you know is cheating, or lying just to get what they want, or just to get somewhere. But remember, Quality is always better than Quantity. The fact that you do everything cleanly will always be better than doing things untruthfully. It's in the 10 commandments, so you shouldn't worry that you're not getting anywhere. You ARE, where it matters.
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@crazy520 (16)
• China
7 Apr 10
Telling a lie is't a bad thing!Sometimes we may consider other's feeling,so we may tell a lie!It's a little white lie!Everyone has a experience of telling lies!Don't too worry about your children!To have good children one must be a good parent!Your children must be a promising people!You are their good mother!
• Denmark
6 Apr 10
Im also a bit too honest sometimes, but sometimes, you just have to say a little lie. I think you shall teach your children to be honest, so they know, that they must tell the true, wenn mother is asking.
@tessah (6617)
• United States
6 Apr 10
i dont want them to only be honest when it is convenient and in certain situations. i want them honest and honorable ALWAYS. when you have absolutely nothing.. all you have is yer word. and without that.. yer nothing.
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