Arizona passes legislation against Illegal Immigrants

@laglen (19779)
United States
April 14, 2010 9:48am CST
[i]PHOENIX -- The Arizona House on Tuesday approved a bill to crack down on illegal immigration by making it against state law to be in Arizona without legal immigration documents. House Republicans advanced the measure on a 35-21 party-line vote. The Senate approved a similar measure in February but must concur to changes made in the House before sending it to Gov. Jan Brewer. Supporters celebrated the bill as a measure to protect the state from violent criminals. Opponents say it will draw local communities deeper into the fight against illegal immigration and do nothing to keep people safer. Arizona's struggling economy has driven many illegal immigrants from the state. But as the economy rebounds, "so too will the illegal immigrants -- larger, stronger and more destructive than they were several years ago," said Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills. "We need to put this law in place now so that when the new illegal immigrants come, we're prepared to do battle with them," he said. The measure has several provisions. It would: -- Create a new state misdemeanor crime of willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document. -- Allow officers to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they're legally in the country. -- Ban so-called soft immigration policies at local police agencies and allow people to sue if they feel a government agency has adopted a policy that hinders the enforcement of illegal immigration laws. -- Prohibit people from blocking traffic when they seek or offer day-labor services on street corners. -- Make it illegal for people to transport illegal immigrants if the drivers of vehicles know their passengers are in the country illegally and if the transportation furthers their illegal presence in the country. The provision is designed to target law enforcement policies that prevent officers from asking people about their immigration status, but opponents worry it will make victims and witnesses scared to work with police and prosecutors. "This is a false hope for the people of Arizona. It's a false sense of security for our neighborhoods," said Rep. Chad Campbell, R-Phoenix. The bill is sponsored by Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, who is one of Arizona's loudest voices opposing illegal immigration. Tuesday's vote demonstrated Pearce's political power at the Legislature and underscored the pressure on Republicans to support crackdowns on illegal immigration. The measure won support from all 35 House Republicans, including a handful who said they had serious concerns with the legislation. "This bill is filled with problems, huge problems. But more importantly it will not stem the tide of illegal immigration," Rep. Bill Konopnicki, R-Safford, said before adding that he feels "obligated" to support the bill anyway. Konopnicki said the best way to address illegal immigration is with fences, electronic surveillance, air support and more border patrol agents. The bill is being closely watched nationally by groups on both sides of the immigration debate. Chris Newman, legal director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, suggested the House bill is the work of racists. "Arizona has long been a laboratory for anti-immigrant experimentation, and its demagogue leaders have become folk heroes for white supremacists throughout the United States," Newman said. "But this bill ushers in a new chapter of disgrace for the state that resisted celebrating the life of Martin Luther King."[/i] What is your opinion? Do you think this is the right track or do you agree with Newman? I think it is a good start but should go further.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
14 Apr 10
I think it is time this country stood up for itself and took care of itself for a change instead of taking care of every other country on the planet while our own is quickly dwindling into nothing. I think every border state should do this same thing... particularly California and give these states back to the USA. Illegals have been given (notice I didn't say "taken") all our jobs by employers cause they don't have to pay a proper rate and can pay "under the table" and the illegals can "afford" to do that cause they get all that, don't have to pay taxes and get welfare, social security and other state offerings where as citizens don't "qualify" for any of that. And now thanks to Obama... illegals get free medical anytime they want it while citizens have to buy health insurance or be fined if they don't. It is getting to the point that if you are a citizen, you can't afford to live in the US anymore.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
14 Apr 10
And I add... "Konopnicki said the best way to address illegal immigration is with fences, electronic surveillance, air support and more border patrol agents" Are you kidding me? Is this man really that stupid? The best way to address illegal immigration is to NOT SUPPORT THEM WHEN THEY GET HERE! Why the confounded heck does this idiot think they all come here?!!?!?! For the a nice suntan?
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
14 Apr 10
lol I figure it is to get taco bell burritos...
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
15 Apr 10
Well then they can come in and get them on Taco Tuesdays when they are 3/$1 and go on back home!
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• Canada
15 Apr 10
Phew. I kinda used to live in Arizona. LOL I am a Canadian citizen, and my husband is an American citizen. I'd fly down therre for six months, and he'd fly up here for six months. Now we are both up here in Canada. Would it now be illegal for me to be there for six months, or does it just mean I'd have to fly home on and off, as I usually did?
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Apr 10
I seriously doubt anyone cares so long as you don't take jobs away from the legal citizens of the country, get on welfare, don't bring in the rest of your family (all generations) speak the language, commit no real crimes, or try to vote. When people do commit these offenses here, we get chafed a mite. Come for a visit, behave yourself? We're fine with that. Maggiepie POST IN Open Mike! ALL SUBJECTS WELCOME--EVEN MULTIPLES AT A TIME!
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
15 Apr 10
Danish, you visited this country legally correct? Then this does not apply to you at all. I have no issue with people who come here legally. It is the illegal that I have a problem with.
• United States
14 Apr 10
I think Newman is confusing illegal immigrants with people of varying race. This has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with people who enter our country illegally. I don't want you in my country if you are not here legally. Black, white, yellow, brown - if you are not American, or you don't belong in America, you should be prosecuted. It's just wrong that a state has to make it illegal to be an illegal alien in order for any action to be taken to deal with this crisis.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
15 Apr 10
lol a little redundant huh?
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Apr 10
Yes. Laws these days all seem to be written by the bureaucrats from the Department of Redundancy Department! Maggiepie POST IN Open Mike! ALL SUBJECTS WELCOME--EVEN MULTIPLES AT A TIME!
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@marsha32 (6663)
• United States
14 Apr 10
what? you mean this wasn't in effect already? and not only in Arizona but all over the place? In my opinion anyone who wishes to reside in our country must have the proper paperwork, become and citizen and speak ENGLISH! Marsha
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
14 Apr 10
It is in ple marsha, federal law only makes it a civil violation though, and they don't enforce it anyway. This law will give the state of arizona a way to enforce it and to a much greater extent and severity then the federal government does. It's astate standing up for itself and something that should be applauded.
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
14 Apr 10
I do applaud it but I hope they DO enforce it. It is one thing to have the laws, a whole other issue to enforce them!
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@bestboy19 (5481)
• United States
15 Apr 10
I wish it would help, but I don't think this bill will do any good. As long as businesses or individuals will hire illegals, there will be illegals in spite of all these rules. We know they are coming for work, and as long as there is someone who will hire them, they will continue to come even if you send them back. The law should go after the ones who hire the illegals. If it's not already, it should be illegal to hire illegals. Since they are hiring illegals to get cheap labor, the law should make it difficult if not impossible to hire them. For example, if law enforcement knows where people go to hire cheap labor, have someone there ready to ticket them for hiring illegals. The fine should be extreme. This should also go for businesses like hotels, motels, and restaurants. If they have hired illegals, they will have a hefty fine placed on them. If it's contract work to be bid on, the person hiring should have to place his job before a Bidding Panel. If an illegal wins the bid, the person hiring should have to pay for insurance, license, and bonding as well as a hefty fine. It should be know, if you want to hire illegals, hire them, but it's no longer going to be cheap labor, so get ready to pay and pay a lot.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
15 Apr 10
Or bottom line, enabling a criminal.
• United States
16 Apr 10
i agree with this.illegal means exactly that-against the law. you can't exempt one group of people from the law,or after awhile,no one else will feel they have to follow them either. my state is crashing with the amount we already have here. yes,i do feel sorry for them,but we haven't jobs for our own right now. i used to see those day jobbers when i lived in AZ,and some would jump right out into the street to show their "need work" sign.it was crazy.the smarter ones would wait in a hardware store lot for people to come by.
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
16 Apr 10
We have a few convenience stores in town where you can get day laborers. This only encourages the behavior.
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• United States
17 Apr 10
yup,it does. the only plus is at least they're not causing accidents in the lot.
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
18 Apr 10
ah always remember, every silver lining has a gray could!