Do You Believe Smokers Have Rights?

@hofferp (4737)
United States
May 8, 2010 2:12pm CST
My roommate and I were having a discussion. He's a non-smoker and I am a smoker. His mother died from lung cancer as a result of smoking. But he says he still advocates for smokers' rights. Even though I'm a smoker, I'm not sure, if I were in his position, I would be an advocate of smokers' rights. Do you believe smokers have rights? Would you still think so (if you do), if someone close to you died of an illness/disease caused by smoking?
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9 responses
8 May 10
Everyone has rights BUT the issue here is just like smokers have rights none-smokers do aswell. We have rights to hence completely respect the choice if you want to smoke but simply put not around us. TBH wouldn't want anyone smoking around me in public either, not just health issues it stinks, its disgusting, makes you cough, itchy throat, ruins the atmosphere. I have seen someone die of lung cancer, defintely due to smoking I was quite young, and let me be honest I would never want to go through that or want anyone close or not, relative or not go through that. I remember could not even eat and the pain he had to go through. Atleast the treeatments have improved now. Smokers are free to do whatever they want to, no one should tell others what to do, BUT non-smokers have rights to and don't want them smoking around me. Blunt I agree but the truth. Not to mention some smokers have complete disregard for the law, smoke in underground stations where smoke and stink will linger for hours, in buses. If you confront them then cause trouble. It is such smokers that do more damage to smokers rights than anyone else.
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@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
I agree...both have rights. I don't like smokers who violate the rules/signs, and yes, they make it bad for other smokers, who do follow the rules, as well as non-smokers. I'm glad you were blunt...but truthful. Thanks for your thoughts.
• United States
8 May 10
Of course smokers have "right." However, they do not have the right to smoke in a place that forces smoke on those who have the "right" to fresh air! That's a difficult one too. I think restaurants should have the option to be smoking or not then let the customers choose. Personally I would choose a place that prohibits smoking over a place which allows it as I cannot breathe in the smoke. I have always wondered about this. IF I do not want to smoke and someone close to me is smoking, in a sense forcing me to breathe second hand smoke- what am I to do? Leave? That's not fair! Most of the time smokers are very considerate and are careful about it but there are a few that are not!
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
8 May 10
Thanks, Macdingolinger, I agree. (And as a smoker, I try like heck to not smoke around other people, to include smokers.) As for restaurants, I too think they ought to have the choice of being a smoking or non-smoking facility, then your customers have a choice of patronizing or not. I think the smoker leaving or you leaving depends on the location, situation, etc. If a smoker is smoking in a no smoking area...he/she needs to leave, not you. If the smoker is smoking near a doorway, etc., he/she should leave, not you. But if the smoker is smoking on a bench in a park (and smoking is permitted), I would probably leave if the smoke was bothering me. Thanks again for your thoughts.
@jb78000 (15163)
9 May 10
damage you do to yourself is your own business. damage you do to others is not. somebody standing outside smoking, or smoking inside places for smokers (like their house) is not likely to be damaging anything apart from their own lungs. i smoke, i don't smoke over non-smokers, anywhere near children, or even in the same room as my pets. i consider that i have the right to smoke outside etc if i want. i know lots of people in very similar situations to your roomie that think the same.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
Blue Rabbit smokes? Well, so does Hoffer. I smoke outside now that I have a roommate that doesn't smoke. I do it out of courtesy, not because he demanded I smoke outside. My house...my rules. My rule is I'll smoke outside (sometimes I smoke in the garage when it's really bad outside, but it's still away from him). What makes me laugh is when he follows me outside to talk...he says the smoke doesn't bother him, but I still try to walk away...and he follows. Gees, you can't win! Did you have a good day? I sure hope so...
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
13 May 10
Yeah, he says it doesn't bother him, but still... I know when I quit for 6 months, the smell of smoke did really bother me. But I made it a point to keep that fact to myself. I've found that people who've quit generally are the most vocal about telling others to quit or that smoking offends them. And sometimes, I really dislike x-smokers...
@jb78000 (15163)
13 May 10
lots are like that. i think it is a psychological trick they used on themselves, unconsciously, to successfully stop. they convinced themselves the smell/taste was repulsive. sounds like you might have done this too - i've been the opposite during my feeble efforts i got to the stage practically of following random smokers down the street to smell it (i didn't but i was tempted). this might be why i never managed more than a month.
@phoenix8606 (4977)
9 May 10
well, guess they have, but only among other smokers, and not among all other people- smokers and non-smokers, because no one deserves to be poison. that's why i think that the non-smokers have more rights than smokers have!
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
So you really think non-smokers have more rights than smokers?
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9 May 10
yes, just because non-smokers are actaully the people who suffer from the smokers. Don't you agree?
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
Phoenix, I don't agree either. I agree with Spalladino. My parents smoked (even while my Mom was pregnant) and didn't quit until they were in their 50s. My Dad did die, but his heart gave out after a fall; he was 81. My Mom's 82 and still very much on the move. My sister did die...from an accident. I don't see my parents' smoking as the cause of any "suffering" by the rest of us kids. I suffer more from a bad game of golf...than I do from their second-hand smoke or my first-hand smoke.
• United States
20 Oct 10
We all have rights. I smoke and enjoy doing so but I also think that smoking in eating places is unfair to non smokers. But out in public I disagree, I think if you are telling a smoker they cannot smoke out in the public then I want drinkers to do the same. I think no matter what the habit is you should consider the cost in the end. The problem is everyone wants to blame smokers for all these health porblems to me that is unfair. Health problems can be from other life style choices as well. Nice post thanks for sharing.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
20 Oct 10
I'm with you 100%. If I do quit smoking, the money I'll save will be a big factor. I sure won't be quitting because people nag me about it... Thanks for your thoughts.
• China
16 May 10
i am a smoker, yes, i smoke a lot, and i am the same with you. if there is one person who don't smoke and he/she donot like others somke, i will never smoke in this room, when i need, i will smoke outside or in other room. i think i must consider about other people's healthy and right first.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
16 May 10
Unfortunately, there are a few smokers who aren't like us and that makes it bad for everyone. Thanks, Mercury_Yan for your thoughts.
@Rysonia (310)
• United States
16 May 10
Yes, smokers are people to of course they deserve rights. As for the laws making smoking in a place of business illegal, that is a violation of the rights of the business owner who should be allowed to decide if he wants to allow smoking in his place of business. A few fanatics are going out of there way to force their beliefs onto everyone else no matter what the rest of us think. And no I am not just referring to smoking there. The government has caved to the vocal lunatic fringe stepping on business owners rights by banning smoking in a place of business just as surely as it has stepped on states rights by forcing them to allow the murder of unborn children.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
16 May 10
I agree with you on the laws banning smoking in a business place. When they passed that law in the city I live in, a lot of business owners were upset. The law is still in place and I still disagree with it. It should be the owners' decisions. Thanks for your thoughts.
@rajaiv0810 (1013)
• Philippines
9 May 10
Yes they do and I respect their rights and their need to smoke. However, they should also respect the proper place where to smoke. There are certain places like malls, restaurants, offices, and other public places where they are not allowed to smoke so they have to follow those regulations. There are also people who are not comfortable when somebody is smoking so maybe for smokers they have to make it clear with another person before they puff in front of them. All of us have our own "individual liberty", however, we have to make sure that we don't compromise other people.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
Yes, I think smokers should be considerate AND follow the rules. Unfortunately, a few don't, making it bad for other smokers and non-smokers. I try and follow the rules. I may have screwed up unknowingly, but I try and be considerate.
• Philippines
9 May 10
If there are rights smokers should have, it should be primarily the rights to save themselves. I strongly believe that smoking won't do you or your body for that matter any good. It would only deteriorate your every single body parts.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
9 May 10
Thanks for your thoughts about smokers' rights.