Dividend payment for BP Shareholders?
By bobmnu
@bobmnu (8157)
United States
June 14, 2010 11:55am CST
Many politicians are calling for BP not to pay their declared Dividend to investors. Investors put up their money hoping to make more money and in some cases to fund their retirement. The business along the Gulf are hoping to make money with their business (investment) and make a living. As an investor if I don't like the risks involved with a company I do not invest in that company. If a business man does not like the risk (Natural or man made) he can move his business, sell it or assume the risk.
If the business person in the Gulf should be paid why should not the Investor be paid also?
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
15 Jun 10
A dividend is not required on stock as it is only a percentage of profit made after expenses and any other funds like for R&D that BP most likely has. As they are going to be paying a good portion to the United States for this mess they have a debt that is at an unknown for them how much it will end up being as they will also most likely fight over the price that they need to pay for the damages that there mistakes have made for businesses and people along the gulf as they are responsible for this. BP would be asking to go bankrupt if they pay these dividends and can't afford to pay the amount of fines they are going to get from this. I think also there stock is on the decrease as investors are knowing that BP is going to be push over and marched on because of the example the government is going to make of them. IF I owned stock in this company I would of sold it 53 Days ago. As this you might of been able to make some profit on this. BP has also damages the whole industry by causing the drilling of all off shore drills they could be held responsible for damages to other oil companies as they have caused the Government to shut down the industry. This is so that we as a nation/government could figure out what steps need to be taken in order to stop this from happening again. If I was BP I would start to give the 5.9 Billion to the Government or put that into some good use like stopping this. It would be good PR as they have marketed themselves as being different than other Oil Companies. Well They sure seem to be acting like some of the other companies out there. I can't wait to see what BP ends up paying to the claims of Damage.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I am actually divided on this issue. BP does have a responsibility to pay its shareholders. It also has a responsibility to pay clean-up costs. Right now, the priority should be the spill but they also can't neglect the shareholders because that is where some of the money is. I think what the politicians are asking is for BP to prioritize the spill over the shareholders but doing that will hurt the company. Simply because, many shareholders will start selling stock if they don't get paid. Which drives down the stock price which starts the "abandon ship" movement. Which in turn could tank BP. If BP tanks, then all of the claims will basically disappear. Which means those with claims won't get paid. Which essentially puts the responsibility for clean-up onto the American taxpayers.
Wow is BP ever in a Catch-22.
Unfortunately, all the politicians are thinking about right or wrong is getting those claims paid.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Think of the tax money that the government will lose if BP does not pay the dividend for a year the tax loss would be in excess of 2 BILLION DOLLARS. If BP Goes under the government loses almost 7 BILLION DOLLARS in taxes every year. the administration should stop bashing BP and start to work with them to solve the problem.

@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Laglen, after this mess would YOU want BP drilling in YOUR backyard?

@elmiko (6630)
• United States
14 Jun 10
personally i think the right thing to do would be not to pay the dividend as of now in order to put more of the finances towards the BP oil spill, but at the same time the share price of the stock will probably drop even more if BP doesn't pay the dividend. Since I think BP will probably lose more money if they don't pay the dividend due to the share price dropping, I think it would be best financially to pay the dividend.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Bob a dividend should be paid when a corporation has paid all of it's debts. Currently no one knows how much BP will owe for this clean up. So how can they pay a dividend when they have no idea if they will have money to pay the dividend and their debts? This is basic business practices here. As you put it, the investors can decided weather BP is a good investment or not. The people in the Gulf can't just sell their stock in BP and have their lives back to normal.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
15 Jun 10
What did Exxon Mobile do after the Valdez. They were able to recover from the disaster and their market value was 7 Billion Dollars and BP has a marker value of 96 Billion Dollars even with their stock value down 40 to 50 percent. Exxon Mobil's paid their dividend (and taxes) every quarter. Toyota survived and is starting to come back. The government should not be putting more restriction on BP. By the way do you trust the people who put your Social Security tax in a Trust Fund to make sure we have the money to pay the future obligations?????
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Personally I don't think our government should be getting involved in the business dividends pay out of corporations. The private sector is just that private.
BP is a nasty spot now. If they don't pay their stock holders and they start a sell off...BP could go under. How would they pay for the clean up then?
They won't. The tax payer will. The claimants won't see their money if BP goes under.
But if htey pay the dividends...share holders are happy. And BP pays out on the claims and pay for the clean up. Everyone is at least happier. With fewer costs to the tax payer.
Or that is how I see it.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
15 Jun 10
It seems that there isn't a demand for there stock as many investors seem to have left them in the dust because of the uncertianess of the company. Even if they do pay the dividends they may still not be able to pay the fines and go under. That is why they are losing investors no one wants to own stock in a company that is going to get tied up and thrown through god knows want in court or damages. They could lose everything in the United States as far as there contracts go and a competiter like Exxon could gain a lot more in contracts.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Yeah well investors aren't going to stay with a company that is going to get fined a whole lot and is basically at risk of losing the United States as a place to do business. There stock is being sold and no one is really buying it as well this possible going under as well as possible lawsuit from the United States and others would cause anyone to be a little more than scared for the future of the company. Paying Dividends doesn't show that the company is strong. It just means there was enough profit as defined by there corporate charter to give dividends out to the stockholders (Owners of the company). So really BP could give out dividends it wont help them gain any money how ever as it would be like .89 a share.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
15 Jun 10
People don't realize it...but the LAST thing we need is for BP to go under. If that happens they walk away from this whole mess (the US portion of their business) and leave us holding the bag and paying for it.
BP does not want to go under..and we don't need them to go under.
If they stay in business and continue to make money...they will have the money to pay out for this mess now and years down the road.

@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
14 Jun 10
Herro bobmnu
I think differently. When you invest in a stock, yes you may be saving for retirement. My IRA lost 50%+ during the crash. That is a risk I took.
The business people along the Gulf are frequently a generational business. They did not ask for BP to be careless and unprepared. We also have to consider the tourist trade. I have spent many hours along the Gulf coast, weekends, week vacations, etc. True, I can go elsewhere for vacation. I do enjoy the Gulf, both the beaches and the water. If there is a risk of oil in the water, I will not go in. If there is oil on the beach I won't go. I have health issues and don't want to risk making them worse.
I like seafood, shrimp and crab. As the price goes higher I can no longer afford to buy them.
Prosperous mylotting
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
14 Jun 10
My father in law owned a home milk delivery business. He wanted to pass it onto his children but time change and he had to change and sold his business and started a different one. These business in the Gulf could do the same thing when they saw the oil rigs come in but they didn't. If I invest in BP and they lose money then I lose money, but why should I not get paid just because some one is losing money in their neighborhood? Let these people file a claim against BP and if BP is at fault then they pay and I lose money. But why should I not get paid just because someone says BP owes them money but does not prove it. If BP is found not to be at fault will the people who have been paid have to pay back BP?
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Herro bobmnu
I read the other responses, each of us have goop points, the pro's and con's of dividends. One response said to prioritize the claims then pay dividends. I understand the issue of stock selling. I don't think that generational families in Gulf businesses anticipated the problems of catastrophic oil spills. Even the Exxon-Valdez was a drop in the bucket compared to the BP spill.
Prosperous mylotting
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
15 Jun 10
To those politicians I would say that given the logic they are using then perhaps the taxpayers should not pay their taxes due to the mess that the government has made of the economy.
BP should pay it's dividends to it's investors... otherwise it will have no investors, which means it will have no way to pay for this spill... and the taxpayers will then be guaranteed to be stuck with the full cost of the cleanup.
This just further illustrates that politics and intelligence do not occupy the same space.
@snowqueen200802 (1463)
• United States
15 Jun 10
If you paid for something then you should get what is due you.









