When father thinks he is always right....

Singapore
July 19, 2010 5:00am CST
My husband's father is a person who refuses to listen to the opinion of others. When my husband disagrees with him, and tries to convince him, he will say that "I am the father, and a son never rebuke the father", and that's the end of the argument, no more could be said after that. Are your parents obstinate and do you have problems convincing your parents to see reason? I have tried many times with my own parents and have failed.
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@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
gosh my father's like that. though he doesn't bluntly say that 'i'm the father, therefore i'm right', he makes you feel that. and if there's anything among his orders that you failed to follow, you end up as the impertinent child. during my last birthday, my father got mad at me big time. i was out with my friends and he wanted me home by 9pm. we were in some sort of amusement park and i know i couldn't make it home by 9. so i sent him a message and appealed for extension (i'm sure i was very polite and nice in the message). his reply totally set me off; he said something like 'so you think you know better now? yeah go ahead and ignore my instructions'. i couldn't understand why he had to put it that way. it made me want to irritate him even more.(*_*) i went home late alright, and 'ignored his instructions'. that was like my first rebellious act.
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• Singapore
23 Jul 10
Relationships are changing all the time, like my brother and I have also drifted apart, we were very close some ten years back, I don't know what turned him into a monster Anyway back to you and your father, maybe it could be something to do with his age, or maybe because you have all grown up and he feels his authority challenged. In order to restore that authority again, he likes to give orders. Maybe it is a way to salvage his pride.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Sometimes it's because you and your father have different perspectives. From his point of view, he expected you to be home early, maybe they are planning some surprise for you at home. On the other hand, you are out enjoying with your friends, after all, its your bday, why should you go home early. I guess this is more of a communication breakdown issue.
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@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
22 Jul 10
hmm... i'm sort of sure they didn't have a surprise coming, and i don't feel about that because if we want a party in my family, we plan it together. i do understand that i share some of the fault. i just hate how my relationship with my father turned out. we were really close when i was young, but it's so not like that anymore. now he just likes to give orders and be followed; not only to me but to everybody, including my mom.
@tomitomi (5429)
• Singapore
19 Jul 10
I can relate very well to this too. Perhaps this runs in most Asian families, if not all. Times may have changed now but a thing like this deeply rooted in my culture is still widely prevalent.
• United States
19 Jul 10
Believe me, it is not only Asian families that this runs in! My grandfather was German and the Germans are noted for their heavy handed child rearing!
@tomitomi (5429)
• Singapore
19 Jul 10
Aww...I'm learning something new. Must have been tough then.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
I always thought Asian families focused a lot on authority, so parents, usually the father, would be very high-handed in dealing with their children. I thought that the westerners treat their children more like their equal, using more reasoning than beating.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
Hi bluemoonpavillion, I try not to be that way with my sons. I am 70 years old and know that I still have a lot to learn and they are able to teach me many new things. My own father was the same after I and my siblings became adults. He never insisted that his way had to be right. Blessings.
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• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Hi Pose, you are very open-minded. I'm sure your sons appreciate having such a father, in my opinion, it makes life easier because communications is a two way thing, if we can't convey things to our father, we would not feel inclined to talk to him about other things. I admire your father's attitude towards you and your family.
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@picjim (3002)
• India
19 Jul 10
I feel its more a matter of old age.When my parents were a lot younger they were open to discussion.But age makes a difference in the sense they become more set in their ways,refusing to see the others view.But mine aren't too rigid and if one explains the circumstances leading to taking a certain course of action they do understand the situation.I feel its best we avoid debating or discussing certain points with parents as they will not change their opinion.
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• Singapore
21 Jul 10
People become more set in their ways as they mature, there's a saying that you it's difficult to change the mind of a person past his 40! I hope I can remain open-minded till the end of my life and I must keep reminding myself to do so. I see you have reasonable parents and your viewpoint is very helpful. Sometimes we can win them over using "soft power".
@ann101 (518)
• China
19 Jul 10
My parents are not so obstinate,although they won't do as you said but they respect your ideas.It's a good communication of chatting on questions together and make out the best answer.
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• Singapore
21 Jul 10
It is good to have discussion or even just to exchange ideas, you never know what you can learn from one another. Maybe my father-in-law thinks that there is nothing more for him to learn, that's why he is unwilling to listen.
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@qianyun6 (2067)
• China
19 Jul 10
Mmm, my father seems better. Usually he won't reject your advice immediately, he only ignore them as if it was only wind passing his ears. But the best character he has is he tends not to interfere my life much. That's what I appreciate him the most!
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• Singapore
21 Jul 10
That is a good policy, to ignore rather than reject directly. At least he didn't insist you listen to him. It's good that he has given you much freedom and you can develop freely.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
21 Jul 10
Why does your husband waste his time trying to argue with a stubborn person whom he has known to be this way his entire life? Does he think somehow his father will change? He should take the high road and be more mature than his father and walk away.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Sometimes he could foresee that his father is taking the wrong route and tries to hold him back but he refused to listen and made mistakes, and he is still suffering the ill-effects. My husband feels that he should try his best to do his duty as a son.
• South Korea
20 Jul 10
well basically older ones know things better than the young...it might be that he knows well about a certain issue...but on the contrary there are those that are...plainly hard-headed...well a completely different story though...
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Definitely older people have more experience and sometimes knows better ways of handling matters. But obviously they can't know everything under the sun, so why can't they listen to someone else's opinion?
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Jul 10
I don't know how my dad would have been when I was an adult because he passed away when I was a teenager. However, this is exactly the way that my father in law is. He believes that his children can never make the right decision and it is honestly something that drives me insane. I sometimes want to correct him and let him know that he is wrong, but I also know this is a bad idea because I don't want to suffer the wrath of John.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
With my father I know I can sometimes argue with him or even rebuke him, but it will be difficult with my father in law. After all we are relatives by marriage and not by birth and it could be disastrous for our relationship if we do that. For your case, maybe it would be better for your husband to act as the middleman, because he is close to both sides.
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
For me yes because father is the head of the family they always tend to be right even if sometimes they are not.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Fathers are supposed to have more knowledge and experience so they are right in many ways. I just hope they could admit it when they are wrong, or at least be aware of it and not be so obstinate the next time.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
Not with my father, but I think I have tendencies towards my sons. I think I always boss them around thinking that I always know what is right, and that they don't know the difference. I get to thinking they are becoming more and more like me. And I don't like it because I already know my faults. I try to steer them into what I think is the correct path, but I think sometimes I go overboard.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
Parents should act as a guide, steer them towards the right direction, but as to how they get there, maybe it's good for them to carve their own paths. They may make mistakes here and there but as long as you are always there for them, they will do fine.
@sach143_u (859)
• India
19 Jul 10
Its very difficult to convince that type of a person, but still if you tried then it will be easy for you i think. Because a girl or woman can do anything or everything. One more thing is patience is the key for you friend. Wait for a right time and use your mind.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
He (the father) has been like that for the past 30~40 years and I'm not sure we can expect him to change unless some major event take place and has an impact on him. I think we need patience to deal with him. Thanks for the advice.
@carpediem17 (1315)
• Singapore
20 Jul 10
I think this is most prevalent in asian families. I remember reading about a case where the father (patriarch of the family business) sued his sons over the running of the company as it was not in accordance with his wishes. This is even after legally passing over the directorship to his sons! He cited that as he was the founder of the business, he has an interest as to the way the business is run.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
You have given a classic example of an authoritarian father! After he has passed over the business, presumably retired, he should take the time to enjoy himself and not worry about the running of the business anymore. By interfering, he is bringing suffering both to himself and to his sons, and somemore, they brought the whole thing to court, how tormenting that is.
• United States
19 Jul 10
I think if religion is involved it's way more complicated. My parents werent religious and once I grew up they let me make my mistakes. My husband on the other hand was under constant scrutiny and being pushed by religious buttons until he finally had to cut them out of his life entirely. It's sad.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
I thought being religious should make them more kind and open-minded. If they are not, or become the opposite, then they are practising the religion wrongly. It is tough having to face such problems as your husband does and the outcome is also sad.
@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
19 Jul 10
Parents don't like to be second-guessed. They have a heavy responsibility when raising their kids and when those kids are all grown, the parameters have been set for so long that they become rigid. My father was impossible to talk to like a human being. He always had to have the upper hand, no matter how trivial or important the subject. My mother, on the other hand, was far more approachable and so we talked things out more. I tend to think it's more of a "father" thing than a "mother" thing but there are always different dynamics in every relationship.
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
hmmm, you also talk about your father being obstinate, is this really a father thing? I also think mothers are more approachable but it could be just their character. The traditional role of a father is to earn a living and make major decisions, maybe that accounts for why they are used to being obeyed.
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