"we are no longer offering actual cash", are you kidding me?

United States
July 27, 2010 6:19pm CST
I was on IMreportcard and kind of forgot about it and surfed back over and noticed this, "we are no longer offering actual cash". However. I made 90% of it when I was still entitled to cash and later on did a few things to reach "payout" and I saw that message. By not paying me the $20(Or at least $18 of that $20.) this is actually by definition in my mind, fraud. Should I report them? I know it's only $20 but I am entitled to that $20 based on their old conditions. It's like working for someone with the original deal when you signed up that they would pay you cash, and then later because your money was sitting idle for a while they decide not to pay you and pass it off as something else. Kind of ridiculous. I would understand for any "points" I made with the new conditions but for every $1 I made with the old conditions I am entitled to that money. So much for IMreportcard being "legitimate", eh? Even if they did pay people in the past.
8 responses
@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
28 Jul 10
I had like 50 referrals in SQIP and build up like 5,000$ ( Five Thousand US dollars) which I was to receive in like 2 years, as you received equity points, and suddenly they removed all my referrals. I have never appealed it but am thinking about contacting them and demanding the 5,000$ to be made payable to me. It was the first scam I ever fell for ever... Read the latest reviews on imreportcard about sqip... really a pie in the sky. Louie, contact the admins of imreportcard and demand your money, only then can frauds be put in jail.
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@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
28 Jul 10
Guess what, they are now called greenwinnetwork and people who use the old affiliate link won't get credited. Bloody frauds. If I were to decide I would rename it to blackeyenetwork because that's what they should get.
• United States
28 Jul 10
CJ is the place that owed me the biggest amount, $600. For $5000 i would DEFINITELY report them as that's a lot of people to bring into their site and to not even receive a cent. As for me with IMreportcard I will probably be contacting them about it and since like 90% of my points were made in their old conditions I should get at least that, plus the fact that it's clear that most of my earnings were made by writing reviews of products I tried(free ones of course. I am not much of one to invest when 90% of them are basically people selling guides about information you can easily find on the internet for free.) G'luck to you and me both :)
@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
28 Jul 10
I don't find recession a solid ground to just throw people out of a program. If they had such big financial problems then why have they even changed their site now? I have just written an email to their support team asking what the heck happened back then. If they can't get me a satisfying reason I will see if my legal insurance can do something about it. I guess not because suing them can probably only happen in the USA. Not really worth it for 5k.
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
28 Jul 10
I think IMRC changed the TOS because they were loding money. The payment offerred attracted many cheaters. These fraudsters wrote reviews without actually using a product, or joining a site. I am not making a false accusation because among other things 1) One IMRC member admitted to faking reviews. This was mentioned by a member here, I am not sure whether it is permissible to mention her user name here or not, in one of her discussions many months ago. 2) Many reviews are general in nature, or repeating what others have written. 3) Incorrect facts. I joined many sites, and that is how I detected discrepancies. The member mentioned in (1) wrote to the Asin regarding some payment and received it. Good luck in writing t them. Do not forget to present the same arguments.
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• United States
28 Jul 10
Yes, that's what they claim however they should deal with discerning the fraudsters from the legitimate members instead of just refusing to pay anyone simply because a lot of people supposedly "frauded". It is basically like getting an extra workload at your job and just ignoring it. The reason it took me so long to reach payout is because I actually wasn't a part of that many internet marketing equivalent programs so it took me a VERY long time to find enough sites to review. *sigh*
• United States
28 Jul 10
Yeah, that's alright. I just reached the bare minimum with them finally lol and apparently for nothing worth any value to me. I am sure I can probably get the $20. It's not like I earned like $500 or something ridiculously overkill. Hmm!
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
28 Jul 10
They claimed to have instituted anti-fraud measures. Obviously they were not enough. They banned new members from certain countries but forgot to look into their own backyard. I wonder how a person can get more than 10,000 points. I mean there is a limit to the number of sites or products that one can be actively involved in. Sorry for any typo. My right hand is injured, and I am using an old keyboard.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
27 Jul 10
I thought that they stopped paying cash many months ago. It's not something new and indeed that is why there are no more discussions promoting it. I agree that when a site chnages its terms it's unfair but they usually state that in their TOS anyway. They can do what the heck they like whenever they like
• United States
27 Jul 10
I am not sure, I just decided to check back with it because it's been a while and I noticed that. Well, it's more of a legal thing then anything else. They can say whatever they want in their TOS but if it's not legal to do it doesn't matter. I can't really see how it would be legal to refuse payment to someone when they originally claimed in their old conditions they would. They are as far as i'm aware legally required to pay 100% of the money acquired in the old conditions. Being that 85% of the "points" I made through the site were made before the new conditions a long time ago I should be legally entitled to receive at least that. It reminds me of what SwatCash did to me. I was $1 away from payout with them but I didn't get any of my money at all & they ignored my inquiries n' such. It's sort of like in "cellphone ringtone companies" they state in very small print in a misc place on their site that if you enter your cellphone at that given page you're entitled to pay the monthly "cellphone ringtone service" fee but 99% of the time people get their money back if they actually go through the proper channels.
@smacksman (6053)
28 Jul 10
Sorry, but you agreed to the TOS when you joined and in it it will say (in so many words) 'We reserve the right to alter these Terms of Service at any time and without reference to you'. They have altered the terms - you don't get paid in cash. It has happened many times to many other sites.
• United States
28 Jul 10
That still doesn't make it legal to refuse payment to members simply because their TOS stated it.
@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
27 Jul 10
Hey dude, I am sorry that they withhold your payment. If I were you, I will report to the management. I know in US they have office that you can file a complain, please do so. Its wrong cheating people's money, anyway is online job that no one can rely on.
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• United States
27 Jul 10
I just might if I get a spare moment. I am in no real hurry as it's only just $20 but they're still required to pay it in my mind.
@celticeagle (161402)
• Boise, Idaho
29 Jul 10
Ya, it's the pits but most those sites have in the guidelines that they have the right to change things at any time. What a deal, huh?! It's not fraud, it's timing. Sadly they can pretty much do anything they wish just like the government now days. Everybody but us!
• Indonesia
28 Jul 10
This is often happened in the online money making world, they usually change their TOS whenever they like. If this the case, there is almost nothing we can do about, especially since the money is not that much and making action to it just waste more of your time and money. Anyway, i don't know what is IMreportCard. Can you tell me more about the site. Also, since they now not paying with money, so what do they pay their member with?
• United States
28 Jul 10
IMreportcard is a site where you write reviews about various internet marketing products. They used to pay money to paypal but now they pay in a weird way By allowing you "free access to Internet Marketing websites or other items of value". Not really suprised.
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
28 Jul 10
If you have been long enough in the Internet Marketing scene you would probably realise that many sites are offering the same products. The difference may be in the price structure. Some supposedly new roducts are actually rehashed from older products. It may be better to spend the money somewhere else.
• Indonesia
28 Jul 10
Well now i understand you get mad. Not all people want to access some internet marketing sites. So what you gonna do? Will you persistent requesting your money, or simply use your credit there to access that internet marketing sites that they talking about. Thanks for the quick relpy
@earning (141)
• United Kingdom
27 Jul 10
This is often the case, you sign up for one deal and it changes. I had a nice little income building up on one site, $0.50/referral. Well, I sent them loads of genuine referrals - and they shut down the payments because a lot of people had defrauded the system, or tried to. I just walk away from those sites.... you win some, you lose some. It's annoying, but it's not worth the effort of trying to claim your money back. Have you tried starting a review of IMReport on their site maybe? I'm with them.... never wrote a thing as I've not used a significant number of such products that I felt it would be worthwhile my writing up my experiences for the amount I might receive. It seems I had a lucky escape there then.
• United States
28 Jul 10
Yeah, that's why it took me so long to earn the $20 with them. I had very little to write about for a long time(until recently which pushed me to their supposed "payout" which they still call it that..) as most of the things they have through their site to write reviews about require you to pay money to try the product and you can't really write a review about the product if you don't actually try it, y'know? I am also one of the few that didn't make 90% of their payout from their referrals. I personally never pay money to try anything as most of the things they tell you about in those "guides" that cost money you can find out about for free with proper research online. This is like the fifth time I got f'ed over with a company lol. CJ was the big scammer a while back. I earned over $600 legitimately with them and they refused to pay it. The plus side is that I haven't really lost any money with them, more a time investment that I could have been spending elsewhere. Well on "IMreportcard" when they reach a "review" capacity you can't write reviews for that product/service anymore and i'm sure that got exceeded a long time ago.
@ANIME123 (2466)
• United States
28 Jul 10
Well in the end it's really up to you if you want to report them for not paying you your 20 dollars. So determine if your time on it was for nothing or if it was for something. I remember I used to go on there too and they actually did stop paying cash some time ago and when I noticed that I was surprised and stunned and also shocked that they were not paying cash anymore. Yeah so much for imreportcard in the end it was a waste of time for me. Anyway good luck with imreportcard.
• United States
28 Jul 10
I didn't spend too terribly much time on it. It was more the hassle of reaching their payout after such a long time only to figure out I can't even exchange a penny of it for cash. It took me so long as I only tried so many internet marketing products(Just the free one's as i can't see the point of paying someone for a guide that you can find for free online.) so that led to so few reviews which is why it took me so long to even reach their payout and find out about their new ridiculous conditions. =/