Love has stipulations......

@dloveli (4366)
United States
July 29, 2010 6:18am CST
I have been thru alot in my life. My daughters father was an alcoholic and very abusive. We were together since highschool. I thought I owed it to him to try to help him. It didnt work. When we were alone, no alcohol, He was the nicest guy you ever wanted to meet. The minute he left to hang out I was in fear for my life. This 13 year relationship even had casualties. My son darian, devin, and many miscarriages. I tried. I put in my all. In other words we had the perfect relationship. Stipulation was that we had to isolate. So I finally had enough and left. Then a few years later I meet the nicest guy. Extremely quiet and a few issues but nothing major. First 6 months great. I fell for him. I truly believe this is the man of my dreams. Stipulation is that he is the type of man where he's the king of the castle. He treats me like a queen. He doesnt like me to work, have friends or talk for myself. I do anyways but it makes for a miserable day if its not all pleasing to him. I dont want to make him sound horrible because if you met him, you would think I was crazy or lying. Why is it that you must always take the good with the bad. There is always a stipulation. WHY? Anyone else feel like this? I love him soooo much but I dont want him to think he controls me. HE DONT BELIEVE ME. It also creates problems. Im not going to give in. I vowed after my kids father that I would never live in fear again. Im not going to let anyone take away my shine. I just want to know if anyone else feels like there's conditions or stipulations on love? thanks dl
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@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
29 Jul 10
well if you know if you kept with me what i might say about this. first of all i am glad you left the first a$$hole. and as far as the second one. oh i do belive you. no man shouldnt never control a woman, and if you want friends then you should have friends. and i belive he does put a good front on for others, most of them do. just like the ones who abuse women, but as soon as another man jumps in thier face, its a different story. i belive if you want to have friends have friends, if you want to work i say go to work, and i belive all women should independ and dont rely on any man. if he is controling you not allowing you to have friends or to go out. next thing it will be to cut you off from family, and 9 out of 10 the abuse will start. if you arent happy you need to do what you need to do. mr right isnt mr perfect.
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@dloveli (4366)
• United States
31 Jul 10
Once again you've said it all! You are a great counselor on relationships. lol Seriously I do think my happy home may be in danger. I think I need to watch things very, VERY, closely. Thanks for your input. It really means alot to me. Thanks again. dl
• United States
31 Jul 10
i'm always straight up with everyone. and i tell people how it is, or how it should be. me and my wife do and sit with couples at time to help them out. ive always havent been the best husband or dad. but i was man enough to admit i have issues i needed help with, the people who helped me was straight forward with me. so i took that and use it towards others. i have gain so much respect from so many, well others well.. yeah they dont like me much but oh well. as a man i belive if he needs to change something then he should specaily if he claims he loves her g/f or wife. but most men worries about showing thier softer side or being emotional. and i sure dont belive any men should ever lay a hand on a female for no reasons at all, a real man walks away. one of the best adavance was giving to me about this was from my mom, she told me you always treat females how you would want a man to treat to sisters, female cousins, most of how you would want your dad to treat me, but always remember if it wasnt for a female there would be no man since you butt came from one
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@sminut13 (1783)
• Singapore
21 Oct 10
definitely a great advice from syankee. it definitely touched something deep in me. i too sometimes feel the same as dloveli. sometimes love has stipulations i too feel, especially when i'm in a thinking mood basically. and i am really in agreement when syankee says no man should ever lay a hand on a female for no reasons at all. in fact, at times i feel, even if there is a reason, he should be man enough and able enough to tolerate it and walk away. your mother really did give good advice one which i'll be sure to pass on to my kids. thanks dlovely for starting a great topic and thanks syankee for a great answer.
• Philippines
29 Jul 10
hello dloveli! i can understand why you say that it feels like that love has stipulations. What you had been through is not very easy and i can sense that you are a strong woman to have gotten this far. I can emphathize with what you feel cause i had been through in a more or less the same situation with my former husband. He was nice and sweet infront of other people, but psychologically and emotionally abused me when we were alone. I kept up with it for seven years, thinking i could change him if i would be more understanding and obedient to what he wants. Of course i was wrong, he abused me more and so i left him and i met this new man in my life who is gentle and sweet most of the time but when he gets drunk (which was quite often when he goes home on weekends), my life is always in danger. He is a military man who is office-stationed now. Well my point is, if what you think its love that you're sharing with your man with all that stipulations attached thereto, you are mighty wrong. A genuine love has no conditions and it does not suppress the real you. Your present beau might be caring and sweet to you but that's because he is afraid that you will leave him if he lets you do otherwise. By not talking to others for yourself, by not allowing you to have friends, he is ensuring that he gets you all for himself, which is totally selfish of him. You are better off without that kind of guy. What's the use of having that gentleness and sweetness when is killing you softly? by suppressing the real you, by letting you not speak for yourself, he is slowly taking over you, your life and yourself. You cannot allow that to happen, if he loves you, he should give you freedom. Oh, not too much but enough for you to live a normal life and be your own self. I think, you know that deep inside. You would not have gotten over your first marriage if you are not a strong individual. Speak for your right. That is not love you are talking about. that is suppression of your basic human right.
• United States
29 Jul 10
I thoroughly agree with you. Love is unconditional. I don't understand some people, when they partner, feel as if they own you. Marriage or a partnership is a sharing of ones life with the other, not ownership. I have seen this time and time again. Women or men needing to ask "permission" to go somewhere or do something. Not being "allowed" to have friends. Being together is fine, but we are still individuals. As you said, if one person in the relationship is trying to control the other, it is a suppression of your human rights. I have never understood WHY anyone would want to control another, unless they have insecurity issues of their own.
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@celticeagle (159200)
• Boise, Idaho
31 Jul 10
Sounds like my experience with husbands. We have to be strong within ourselves and set up boundaries for our own well being. Sometimes a man will have such fine ways and these 'stipulations' you speak of but you have to be strong within yourself and see that the over baring part of his personality is not going to change and you will very sorry if you stay in a relationship that is not totally what it could and should be. Your happiness is at stake.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I think you are finding that all people have many different sides. Men especially have a social side that they present to the world to get what they want. Once they have acheived this goal other sides of their personalities come forth. I am not say this is bad often it's good. But you seem to be attracted to strong controlling males, you need to look to your own insecurities and see why this is. I like a controlling male because I know I would walk all over a complacent male. I do have limits on how much control but I know I am weak in the selfesteme area.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
31 Jul 10
I haven't really noticed that there have been any stipulations on my relationship with my husband. However, with the prior relationships that I was involved in, I would definitely say that this was the case. With my boyfriend from 11 years ago, I had to accept the fact that he couldn't always be there for me because of circumstances in his life. Then there was my boyfriend after that who broke up with me because I refused to request a change in my dorm assignment so that I wouldn't live in a coeduacational dorm at school.
@tweetbird (161)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I've heard people say that you cannot choose what type of male/female you're attracted to. It's like a magnet. In my lifetime I have seen very nice girls, some actually very pretty on the inside and outside, hooking up with questionable, insecure and sometimes abusive men. They're just attracted to the bad boy types. The problem is that, after a while, they find themselves in love but uncomfortable with the behavior or situation. If the controlling or abusive partner doesn't change, it can be a lifetime of frustration. Marriage or relationships should be a two-way street based on mutual respect and equality. Not dominion, dominance or control. While it's hard to predict how a partner is going to change after a few months or years, there are usually some red flags during the dating period. Ignoring those red flags can mean a lot of challenges down the road. Sometimes a guy or a girl will totally bypass a person who would make a great husband or wife and choose the one that's nothing but trouble. That's human behavior that unfortunately comes with a high price. Happiness has a lot to do with the choices we make.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
30 Jul 10
Only works if ya work together on things you are a team where no one controls the other one. My daughter has a SIL that has a very controling husband after we pick her up from work he is one the phone7 times int the time it take sto get her home as where are ya now!!!!!!! its sickning and this morning just got pulled away from her house and he on the phone calin g her lord he drives me crazy and she ansers every call! I wouldnt would you?
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Jul 10
Hi dloveli, Our lives sound pretty similar. This guy that you describe that is "king of his castle" just makes my stomach turn. I didn't marry the guy like him but we lived together and got a house together. He was nice in so many ways but if he did not get his way then he was a nightmare. It turned into a nightmare that I think was worse than the one I went thru with my ex husband. I hope you think long and hard before moving in with or marrying this guy if you havent done so yet.
@aldawn22 (224)
• Philippines
30 Jul 10
It sadden me to hear situation like this, hearing this kind of life makes me doubt to enter marriage life. Specially that I am a woman it feels sad that we are trying our very best to have a simple yet happy life but it seems that destiny is not cooperating with us. I think everything in life has stipulations specially when it comes to love. The quest that we have to face is how can we control and manage these stipulations in order to be happy. I admire your courage and your determination to still hold on in a relationship that's is so difficult. Probably in due time your partner now will hopefully believe in you and that he will give you the total happiness that you deserve. Good luck and I will pray for you.