Training a springer spaniel

July 29, 2010 8:25am CST
I didn't really want a dog but we got Toby mainly because my next door neighbour was unable to sell him. Simply because she was asking for too much money but anyway, I must say he is now 13 months old and I would not be without him. Even on the coldest of mornings when I do not want to get out of bed to walk him, five minutes into his early morning walk and I am feeling so happy that I was able to haul myself out of my bed. He is a very intelligent dog, it took me three weeks to fully house train him, he is now quite good on recall, sit, stay and playing fetch the ball. I do find that there are people who still beleive that you shouldn't train a dog with treats. Is there any other way to train a dog, believe me, Toby is a terrible puller on his walks, he is getting better but I am wondering, have I left it too late to train him not to pull or can this problem be rectified. Help me please, my arms are dropping off.
4 responses
@shira0524 (482)
• United States
31 Jul 10
I have two Springer Spaniels and I love them so much! They are great dogs! Dogs should definitely be trained with treats. They need the positive reinforcement to know they did a good thing. Dogs brains are reward-oriented. You won't have to use treats forever, but when you are trying to teach a new behavior it is the best way. There is an animal behaviorist at the Veterinary Hospital where I am an Assistant and he does everything with small treats. Immediate reward is important! Also, for the pulling problem, you should look into something called a Gentle Leader collar. Again, something that the behaviorist starts all the puppies in his weekly training classes with but I used one on my first Springer Spaniel as well, and she was a horrible puller. It is a device that teaches them through "discomfort" and reward, not to pull on the leash and it's a very well-accepted and humane training aid. Things like choke chains and prong collars are not, and most dogs eventually get used to them and learn to ignore them. Also, it is never too late to teach a dog to walk with a Gentle Leader. Whatever you do, though - if you buy one and at first he acts like "OMG MOM YOU ARE KILLING ME!" with how he behaves, if he rubs his face or tries to lay down, if he tries to get it off, don't let him and just KEEP AT IT! It may take you a few weeks, but eventually he will give in. Dogs who are very objective to the Leader are trying to be dominant and are unwilling to submit to the training device so they have to learn that there is no other choice but to behave! Here is a link to a video about the Gentle Leader and you can see how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6XMb2XRVVs&feature=related Good luck!
31 Jul 10
Hello shira0524, I think Springer Spaniels are wonderfully happy dogs, The big grin that Toby gets on his face when he is running through the woods is classic. Thankyou for telling me about training with treats, I feel it is the way to go with Toby. I did once try the gentle leader, Toby made me feel so mean for using it on him, by rubbing his face all over the floor and trying to get it off with his front paws that after a month I did give up. Maybe I will try it again.
• United States
31 Jul 10
The guilt trip is the reason that most people give up with it, but it doesn't cause any pain at all. It's simply forcing the dog to obey, which naturally, he doesn't like. So if your goal is to get him to obey, perhaps getting out your gentle leader and watching the DVD that comes with it for pointers, and then using treats to reinforce his good behavior will "eventually" convince him that it's not so bad! Until he wears it willingly he is still trying to be his own dog and not listen to you so, good luck! :)
@minx267 (15527)
• Hartford, Connecticut
29 Jul 10
I found that a harness helped with my puller.. basically because you can just yank them back from their chest (with out choking them- not they they seem to care) And I would even hold her up with her front feet of the ground then i would sometimes walk with her holding the top of the harness (on her back) like the handle of a suitcase. and if she started to step in front of me - she got pulled back.. Eventually she lessened her pulling - just a little but I was still able to control her a lot better with a harness.
• United States
31 Jul 10
In actuality, a harness just encourages a dog to pull harder. Unless you need a harness for a dog with a breathing problem or Collapsed Trachea, I would not recommend on if the dog pulls.
30 Jul 10
Before now, minx267, Toby has had a choke collar, only a 1/2 choke collar, didn't make a lot of difference, I then bought a normal harness, he pulled me even worse with one of these, I was actually thinking of buying myself a pair of roller skates and going out early in the morning, along the local roads, maybe I could tire my spaniel out in that way. Though knowing Toby and myself I would have ended up in hospital with a broken bone of some sort. Not very dignified for a 48yr old woman. Breaking my leg roller skating down the High Street at 6am in the morning.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I have found that dogs pull because they want to hurry you on to the next treasure! They love to follow scents. I've always had a problem with that. What I do is is say "no pull!" in a firm voice and then I stop in my tracks. I make him sit and we stay there for about a minute then I say "let's go, good boy!" The next time he pulls I repeat that. As smart as your dog seems to be, it probably won't take more than a couple days. I had one very stubborn dog that insisted on pulling even with that method, he pulled as soon as we were out the door! So I said "no pull!" and took him right back inside for a minute. After a few minutes he caught on and stopped. See, you are rewarding him with an activity and not a treat. He sees that his behavior is being rewarded with something he likes to do. That's a great motivator!
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Jul 10
That's exactly the way I taught Binne not to pull on the leash! First, I tried to teach her to walk by my side using treats. As long as I could keep her atention, it worked fine, but, when she cought some scent from the air, the treats became useless. I started to search on the internet for some other methods to teach her how to walk on leash like a good dog, and there I found out your method. I must say that Binne learned that in only one day. Now she knows that when I say "mergi frumos!" (the Romanian for "walk slowly"), if she doesn't stop pulling, I will stop and she will have to stop too. So, when I say "mergi frumos" she slows down her pace until she walks next to me. Sometimes, she even hurries back, knowing that if she does so, she will get a treat.
30 Jul 10
Thankyou dragon54u for the advice, and you are right, rewarding with an activity, if you can find the right one, is just as good if not better, at times, than rewarding with a treat. I will try it.
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Jul 10
Hello moondance61. You are one of the few people who don't want a dog, but they finally fall in love with the dog they own. Toby is such a lucky dog! It's great that, as a first time dog owner, you managed to teach him how to come, sit, stay and fetch. Dont' dispair with walking on leash, you will eventually succeed in this, too. I don't beleive in the alpha theory who says that dogs pull because they want to show you they are in charge. I think they just want to get to the source of the scent they small faster. Dogs are good at tracing smells from the air, and hunting dogs like your spaniel excell in that. I used the same method to teach my dog to stop pulling, as dragon54u described above. When Binne pulls, I tell her "mergi frumos" (which means "walk slowly" in Romanian) and I stop right there. She has nothing to do than stop. Then she looks back at me with that innocent face "what happened, mom?" and I make her come to her place, which is right next to me. I make her sit and give her some treats, then, after a minute or so, we start walking again. I want her to know that's all I want from her: to be next to me. Every time she pulls, I do the same. Remember, "consistency" is the key. Binne learned to stop pulling in just one day, and I hope your Toby will do the same. It doesn't mean that he will never pull on leash, because there are so many attractions out there, but the moment he pulls, you give her the command and he will walk slowly.
30 Jul 10
Thankyou so much for the tips inu1711, I will try the tips that you have given me, it sounds like so much common sense that I don't see how Toby won't get it.