Obama ignores 87,000 people

@laglen (19759)
United States
August 30, 2010 10:17am CST
Glenn Becks rally had an estimated 87000 people as cited by a CBS source. Obama in response said, “It’s not surprising that somebody like a Mr. Beck is able to stir up a certain portion of the country. That's been true throughout our history,” he said. But “what I’m focused on is making sure that the decisions we’re making now are going to be be not good for the nightly news, not good even necessarily for the next election, but are good for the next generation.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38906337/ns/nightly_news/ In my opinion, here is the problem. He is ignoring the American people. He seems to think that he knows whats best and thats where he is wrong. Whether you like or agree with Glen Beck, how do you feel about the President ignoring our wishes/opinions, not just with this rally but with the Tea Party groups and other groups that have been voicing their opinions.
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
30 Aug 10
You cannot expect to be involved with every decision that an elected official makes. However, when an elected official sees that the decisions that he is making are angering a large portion of his electorate, he should at least try to find out why instead of saying things like they are potential terrorists or worse. I am tired of constantly wondering what rights I have lost today or what bizarre thing the pres. has done today. I am not too thrilled with Glenn Beck anymore either. Shalom~Adoniah
@laglen (19759)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I understand that he can not please everybody. But when the majority voices their opinion.....
• Belgium
30 Aug 10
But is this really a majority?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I have to agree with Hawaii, laglen...are they really a majority? I certainly haven't been asked for my opinions and you know that I have a whole bunch of them!
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Aug 10
We elect a president in this country so that he can make decisions. We elect members of the house and senate so that they can make decisions. Since when is this country supposed to be set up like a giant opinion poll? I don't believe that anyone is "ignoring" anyone's wishes, laglen, but the country does not run based on who screams the loudest. Glenn Beck does not speak for everyone in the nation and neither does the tea party. There's nothing wrong with voicing your opinions...I've been doing that for years to all of my elected representatives...but don't expect mob rule to be the American way, even if the mob is a civil one.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
30 Aug 10
oh shoot well see I was under the impression that we were a Constitutional Republic which means A constitutional republic is a system based on the consent of the governed in which representatives of the public exercise power We are supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, for the people Thank you for clearing that up for me
• United States
30 Aug 10
Spalladino, what makes me laugh is when Bill Clinton listened to polls, and did what the people wanted, Republicans attacked him. Now, Barack Obama is ignoring the polls and Republicans are attacking him again. You just can't win with this group.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Laglen, this country is suppose to be a lot of things, but we all know it isn't. On paper, the government was designed to be of the people, by the people, for the people. But, there is one major problem with this design: We don't live our lives on paper. If you go back even as far back as when the country was created, the writers themselves were corrupt, many receiving government contracts. This is nothing new at all.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
I think that Obama is listening to a lot of Americans, just not the ones who listen Glenn Beck.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
i am glad you think so.
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@elmiko (6630)
• United States
31 Aug 10
laglen, i agree with what obama said. whats good for the people that run the nightly news is controversy and bad things because that's what the viewers get hooked on. that's what stirs their emotions. that's what brings in the ratings or else they wouldn't put as much of those things on the news. i'm glad obama is focused on making things good for the next generation and not paying attention to such distractions. some people do want to get past the nonsense and make progress.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
I agree we need to get past the nonsense. My point was the amount of people, wouldnt you atleast want to hear what they are saying/thinking/feeling
@laglen (19759)
• United States
3 Sep 10
lmao thank you, that is just what I would expect
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
31 Aug 10
not really if i was obama since the leader of the rally is glen beck who is part of fox news and like almost everything on it is dedicated to putting down obama. plus the president probably had more important plans in advance.
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• United States
3 Sep 10
I don't remember which network reporter Obama spoke with after the rally, it may have been an NBC reporter, but he pretty much told the reporter that he didn't care about the opinions of anyone who listens to and is influenced by Glenn Beck. Nor does he care what the entire country thinks, including opinion polls. He's going to do what he feels is right for the country. If I remember correctly, I believe Bush did some of that ignoring of the polls and did what he felt was best for the country when he was in office, but it seems different when Obama does it. I never got the feeling that Bush was trying to ruin the country.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
3 Sep 10
And isnt this supposed to be a time of hope and change? That negates anything that starts with Bush did it too.
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
30 Aug 10
Obama didn't see 87,000 people because he's was busy walking around "with a birth certificate plastered on his face".
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
and celebrating Katrina.....
@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
for goodness sakes spall, I did not mean it THAT way "Obama marks Katrina Anniversary" sensitive much?
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Oooh laglen, that was not nice. No one was celebrating Katrina...they were remembering, mourning and celebrating the achievements that have been made to rebuild the city of New Orleans.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I don't agree with Obama's politics, but this statement was pretty much spot on. Beck has millions of fans so rounding up 87,000 really isn't a big surprise. Also, as you know, we are not a democracy. These people should be acknowledged and respected, but you can't shape policy around 87,000 people in a country of 300 million. There are plenty of groups of nutcases that exceed 87,000 members like the ACLU, KKK, and Code Pink. I don't want the president shaping policy around those people.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Ok, I had to go back and look at what I wrote because people are thinking that I am saying he should shape policy every time some body has an opinion. I just pointed out that he is IGNORING large groups.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Aug 10
Actually, CBS estimate of 87,000 was on the very low end of the estimates. Others have reported upwards of 500,000 but there are no official numbers since no is counting the crowds anymore. I read this was due to a complaint by the million man march organizers who thought the count for that was too low. Regardless, it isn't the numbers that count but the message. Supposedly, there were a couple of other rallies going on at the same time, yet oddly enough only Glenn Beck's crowd is getting a number count.
• United States
30 Aug 10
Actually, the head counting stopped sometime in 1994 or 1997 don't remember the exact year, when organizers of the Million Man March made a complaint about the Park officials reporting numbers that the organizers thought were too low.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Aug 10
"Supposedly, there were a couple of other rallies going on at the same time, yet oddly enough only Glenn Beck's crowd is getting a number count." Maybe because Beck's event was highly publicized by the media...including by Beck himself...so the natural follow up to all that publicity is the post rally publicity regarding how many attended...and the fight about the count. There have been rallies, demonstrations and protests going on in that city every day of the week for decades and the Park Service does not normally spend it's time counting heads. It's usually the organizers and the media (if the event is noteworthy) who talk about the numbers.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Aug 10
The Million Man March was also a highly publicized event. My point is that, even prior to 1994 or 1997, the Park Service and the Metro Police were not counting the number of people who attended events so it's not unusual that other rallies taking place this past weekend did not have head counts.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Aug 10
Hmmm, where to start? How about with the ridiculous estimate of 87,000. No other network has low-balled that low. The lowest estimate of even other MSM networks is about 300,000. If they admit to that, then the real number is impressively higher. But here's the pics anyway: http://www.therightscoop.com/photos-glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally If I remember correctly, Obama didn't even notice the DC Tea Party rally and we all know that they just went away and nothing ever came of the Tea Party... What he said about making decisions to affect the next generation - that's refreshingly honest. He certainly has done that with unprecedented deficits and he does want to change America so the one our children grow up in will bear no resemblance to the one we grew up in. What Obama fails to realize though, is that for the hundreds of thousands of people gathered in DC on Friday and for the many millions more watching on CSPAN, his attention or approval are not required or sought. He's become irrelevant in that we know it is impossible to persuade him to listen to the people he was elected to serve. Since we know he pursues his own agenda and is deaf to the voice of the people, we no longer worry about what he thinks about the outcry of average citizens. We know he ignores it. The November elections will make it more difficult for him to push his agenda through but so much damage is done that one election won't undo it. I have to agree with the focus of the rally - we need to have faith, hope, charity and honor, and pray that somehow we survive this mess.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
You make some good points and I agree he is making himself irrelevant.
• United States
30 Aug 10
Laglen, do you really want the president of the United States to shape policy around 87,000 people in a country of 330 Million? You do the math, it just doesn't add up. How many Skin Heads are in the United States? How many Black Panthers are in the United States? How many gang members are in the United States? I am sure there are hundreds of times more gang members in this country than showed up at this event. Are you saying that the President should listen to GANG MEMBERS?????? My opinions, and hundreds of thousands of Americans opinions (many more than 87,000) were ignored under George W. Bush, why didn't you stand up for US?
@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
no no no I am sorry if that is the way you took it. I do NOT expect him to make decisions based on 87000. But I would hope that our president wouldnt ignore 87000 citizens
• United States
30 Aug 10
sorry about that Lacieice, Thanks for the catch
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
30 Aug 10
Actually, grestdebator, the population of the US is 309.5 million according to Wikipedia.
@wahmivy (776)
• Philippines
30 Aug 10
I thought the rally numbered in the hundred thousands. I read NBC and CBS were more conservative about the estimate and gave six digits, and the conservatives are more liberal about theirs and insist that the attendance reached seven digits... I'm not American (although many of my family are), but as a Fox News junkie, this interested me... I can't comment beyond the trivial (such as the debate on the attendance), but it's fascinating to see how the others replied. :)
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
The point of my discussion was how disgusted and offended I am at Obama IGNORING the people. He did this with the Tea Party as well and that is not helping his party much....
• United States
30 Aug 10
By DC standards, a rally that doesn't break 6 digits is rather an embarrassment. In dismissing Beck, President Obama takes him as seriously as a representative of "the American People" as Beck deserves. I'm sure you were all up in Bush's business for dismissing anti-Iraq war protesters sa a "focus group," right? (No, this isn't any sort of "blame Bush" thing, it's test of your internal consistency.)
@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
300 million?? I said 87000 metallion - I think that calling war protesters a focus group IS way out of line.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Aug 10
In all fairness to this rally, there are no official numbers on the size. I saw estimates ranging from 50,000 to 500,000 and the DC police said they no longer do official estimates to avoid the political controversies involved since a truly accurate count of large events is simply impossible and any attempt is unreliable. If anyone really wants to go nuts I think it was Michelle Bachmann who said there were 1,000,000. Regardless, I wouldn't call it a small rally or an embarrassment by any stretch.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Aug 10
From the shots I saw on the news, yes, it did look like a large rally...but not 300 million large.