What is with our kids?

There needs to be a serious investigation. Perhaps the injured girl provoked the other girl. That doesn't condone it,but there are too many details missing to make a good decision. However, as bad as the girl beat the other one up should be punished because no matter what, she was not right. She should be expelled and even face criminal charges.

hi thorouoghrob I think maybe we should ask the televsion stations and movies to tone down a lot of the violence in movies specially teen horror movies that actually show stuff almost like that happeing in a moviel I think young people are becoming inured to violence and think its cool to get angry and see how far they can go. Some with weak minds may really be in trouble. I imagine they are really hush hush as it probably involved some kids from the best families, yuck. If I wer e a school principal all those kids who just watched and the one who bashed the girl would be immediately expelled from my school right away. The ones who looked on and did nothing, did not run for adult help are in a lot of ways as guilty as the teen who hurt the girl.I think I would also send or phone a warning that your child needs emotionl and mental observation. this type of thing makes me so angry.

About the alleged bully: 1. she has seen violence at home. 2. She maybe watches violent shows on t.v. and cannot distinguish reality from fiction 3. She is allowed to get away with everything at her own home. You do not give an age range for this child. About the alleged victim: 1. She may be completely innocent. 2. She may have provoked the incident 3. This may be a long running rivalry. About the girls who stood by: 1. They were scared of the bully or her "gang" if she has one. 2. They did not like the other girl, either. 3. They were part of the set up to make sure that the incident did happen without adult interference. About the school:1. Because of privacy issues they cannot release details. 2. To guarantee an impartial investigation and/or trial they must keep silent. 3. They are not through investigating. 4, Generally hospitals cannot release information because of HIPPA and neither can schools. 5. I will bet theyhire restroom and hall monitors for the rest of the year. As far as the other girls not intervening, that is part of why mob mentality causes so much damage. Unless one person can break the inertia, no one will intervene and get help. I also imagine it is like the Good Sam laws on the road. I am trained in first aid, and cpr, but, I am not required to help at an accident, unless I choose to. They may not be "required " to help in a case like this. I hope the school brings in a counseling team, though, just like it would in any other violent incident. The girl who did the attack will either go to juvy, if she has not got any previous history, or if she is old enough, and the injuries serious enough, she could be tried and sentenced as an adult.

the one that did the beating up would be bared from school and the parents to pay for the othrs hospital bill and more should have been in paper and news

in some cases,kids seem to be almost borderline feral anymore with what they get away with.you can't punish them,the legal system usually won't,so they do what they want thinking nothing will come of it. if i was an administrator?she'd be expelled.period. there is no excuse for that behavior.and the 15 others would be suspended for not at least notifying staff what was happening.

Well of course there would be no other option than to make sure that the girl that was guilty of doing that to the other girl would be expelled, preferably from the entire school district, but at least from the particular school. For the students that stood by and watched it happening without doing anything, they should be prosecuted with conspiracy as well as suspended from the school for a period of time. In addition, the main perputrator should also be prosecuted for what she did to the girl.

That is outrageous. If children are forced to attend school then schools should be safe. My first question would have to be why were all those girls in the bathroom in the first place? Even many years ago when I went to school in a small town there were hall monitors in place. But of course in those days the school day was much more regimented. Students were not allowed to go into the bathrooms together or roam the halls. I have to say though that school administrators really do not have much autonomy to act any more either, as they answer to boards that cater to the way the wind blows. It is really a no-win situation for everyone.

I would make sure that the attacker was expelled and demand that she go to juvenile detention facility and receive intensive counseling. The trouble with kids is that first, they know that they won't suffer serious consequences for their actions. Second, their parents are often disengaged, both of them working and the kids are lucky if they see their parents a few minutes a day. It's "hurry up and grow up" and they are dealing with issues no child should have to deal with, like being alone and unguided and having no haven from peer pressure, no trusted adult to talk things out with. I've said it so many times before and been called simplistic and old fashioned and worse but I'll say it again--moms need to stay home and raise their children, we have to find a way for them to do it. I think we'd see a marked decrease in juvenile violence and other crimes if they had at least one parent at home and weren't raised by strangers.

gOOD morning Rob, first of all thank heavens i'm not an administrator, i'd probably have so many rules they'd think they were in prison, lol & that's where some of them need to be in this day & time. For people to stand & watch something like this going on & not try to stop it or go get help is above my understanding. This girl that did it should be made an example out of. Them sweeping it under the rug does no good & it makes people think it's alright to act that way. I hope she is punished like she should be.

This is terrible! It makes me worried about sending my daughter to school! If the principal knows the identity of the culprit he should expel her along with the ones who were standing around watching and doing nothing in regards to getting help. It does not matter why the girl decided to bash the other one senseless, she should be dealt with and the spectators should be punished as well for seeing this awful thing as some kind of entertainment. I have no idea what is going on with some teens, it’s scary. Is it the violence in films and television or the electronic games they play or all of the above?

I will investigate who were in the bathroom at that time and I will also call the culprit to my office, together with the onlookers. I will ask them what happened initially and why they never stood up to help the poor girl. I hate onlookers, who only watch but never help. I will make them stand in front of the whole school and shame them. As for the culprit, I'll make her go on her knees and beg for forgiveness from her victim and after that, I'll put her on Corrective Work Order for a week by cleaning the school compound. Such acts are NOT TO BE FORGIVEN!!!

I am afraid that all this thing about not giving a child a spanking when he deserves it (the new way of raising children) has led the kids to think that they can do anything and get away with it. Thus, something that was designed to protected them turned the other way. There have always been bullies and gangs at schools. But years ago the teachers and parents could have a say in this and it would help. The children need someone to set them limits. Traspassing is not an exercise of freedom. Children need to belong. That, if not moderated by adults, can turn into gangs and mobs. Why don´t parents and teachers propose clubs instead? Why don´t they turn the excess of energy into something positive? I think that it is because it is easier to turn the head and look away instead of helping out. Is there a PTA in that school? What does it do? How do they help the children? This is nor a single incident, this is a way of living, an illness of our society. We are all culprits. What are we going to do about it?

That is terrible. Nothing of that sort has ever happened in any of the schools in our locality because our school administrators are very strict when it comes to disciplining the students. Slight misbehaviors would lead to punishments. We have handbooks here that make it clear to the students what are expected of them and what happens if they do not cooperate. We have problems with some students but not as huge as that. That only happens in prison houses.

This is a typical school violence case, it shows something serious with our educational mode that deserves educational administration attention. For the new generation, school is no longer a pure place but full of social complex, interpersonal relationship become much more as same as adult society. As a result I suppose educational administration should pay much more attention to teach students what is the right way to deal with relations with others. In this case, I strong believe that the troublemaker should be punished as a typical case to the public. On the other hand, it's time to improve educational mode particularly on students moral education.

kids of today are very exposed to violence because of the mass media and all kinds of communication available today. not like in the past that not all have tv set at home, or computers or celphones. if im the school administrator i will not also open this thing to the media because it will be a bad publicity for education. the generation today are so sensitive yknkow. they might stop going to school becasue of that. maybe it can be handled just within the school and the kids going there..