Don't ask don't tell is somehow still the law

It will be intresting to see what happens when the DOD says okay we know how to run ourselves without DADT as a law. Will congress let the DOD just disregard the rule as the Military is currently looking into how to best allow gays into the military so none of the feared nastiness comes into play and that they are accepted if they decide to come out or not to their fellow soldiers which I think is the best way it should be the persons choice if they want to let their fellow comrades know about them in that way. The few army and navy guys I have talked to said they knew people who where in the military who where gay. one of my co workers at work said "All this stuff they talk about on TV about gays being allowed into the military they are already their and have been. I just told the person I am not so don't look at me in any way. But really their is no difference between a gay soldier or a straight one once that bullet or bomb goes off you forget all that stuff and survival kicks in." He served in Vietnam and has his issues but he supports getting rid of this law as they are patriots just as he is. Many now in the DOD want this to go away but not until they are completely ready to make the change over which is what they are working on. Mccain wasn't to happy because the DOD several months ago started this investigation in how to change their view point on DADT and how to get rid of it so the DOD and not just a bunch of politicians want to do away with it. I say let the DOD figure it out then let them pass a really small bill that over turns the law. The Supreme court has to rule to make a law get stricken from the books.

I know that a lot of people think this law is discriminatory because you shouldn't be able to ask if a person is gay or not in order to have them serve their country, but I think its important to note that if they can't ask that then they shouldn't be able to ask about a person's beliefs or anything deemed personal. Its not about accepting everyone as they are, its about learning what makes them who they are, but we can't ask those questions, that's too personal and we might offend them.

It's really pathetic, isn't it? The REALLY sad and disgusting part about the Senate GOP blocking this bill is it wouldn't do a thing until after the DOD completed its study so it's NOT as though passing this bill would be going against what the Pentagon wants. I know there are those here who will REALLY disagree with me on this, but I'm also in favor of the so-called "Dream Bill". It doesn't mean I'm for amnesty for all illegal immigrants but I do believe those who came here as children when they had no choice but to accompany their parents or guardians should have a "path to citizenship" if they follow certain guidelines. Joining the military and putting their lives on the line is certainly good enough for me! After all, only a very tiny percentage of those of us who were born here are willing or able to serve, and I DON'T mean that as a put-down to anyone, I'm just stating a fact. Annie

You do realize of course that Obama could end the constitutional travesty of DADT with the simple stroke of a pen don't you?

Of course, it still is the law. The Supreme Court, the President, nor Congress has overturned it. Just like Health care is still the law despite judge rulings in several states on the matter. Besides, it isn't a Republican hold-up when 4 democrats voted against it, including the Chair himself.

It is really astounding that the greatest military in the world cannot do what most the other military's around the world have already done decades ago. Are our military men and women incapable of being officers and gentleman? Can we not assume that they will act like trained individuals and accept these folks just like they learned to accept blacks and women serving beside them. This is about making up non-sense so that we don't discuss real issues in our political ballfield. Throw them out. These are most of the same politicians that gave he bank away, gave billions to the Pharma companies that then took it offshore and never asked Halliburton where a few hundred billion dollars "disappeared" to (witchcraft no doubt), or why KBR is still electrocuting our troops while they try to take a shower. WMD's anyone??

gew - it is still law because the bill did not pass. The bill did not pass because they add so much crap. There was defense issues, abortion issues, gay rights issues, amnesty issues. If they really want to get it passed, they can produce a bill just for that.

Well, it's a district court, not the Supreme Court, so it's not so simple as "rule against it and it's gone." If I recall, their jurisdiction is about the same as a state court. The ruling was based on the 5th amendment and the 1st amendment, but couldn't be based on the 14th.

Bill Hicks has a quote for this "Gays want to be in the military. I don't know how you all feel about this but here's how I feel anyone DUMB enough to want to be in the military should be allowed it..." Bill Hicks ahead of his time.