Job application time again. What a pain. Tips I've learned. Complaints.

You didn't have to fill one out at a job fair? That must be nice. I still had to. Did they take your resume instead? You only have to have three references? Please! Try 4, 5, or 6. Name two friends who can vouch for your trustworthiness and loyalty. Name 2 former empployers who will indicate what a hard worker you are. That's one way they get 4 and here are some other neat ones I've seen: Name 3 people that you worked for or worked with you that are NOT friends and NOT related as references. Name one person who is a friend or a relative as a reference. Name 5 people who have knowledge of your skills. Please indicate the skills that they will varify in the skills section. Indicate 3 professional and 3 personal references below. Check off which each one is in the appropriate box. We require 3 nonpersonal references below, but we prefer 5 nonpersonal reverences. Please lits the varifiable skills that they will cooberate (spelling?). I call all the people and ask them what skills that I have that go with the job description that they will say that I have. If they call and your list doesn't match what they say, they either think you're overstating your skills (lying) or that you actually don't have the skills they need. It's New York, the sue me state. Also a heavy state of welfare people who take a job just to not work and get fired. Also many, many ex-cons here, like 3rd nationally or something. Many times I will see: 3 current or past employees of our firm who will varify your integrity (or diligence or work ethic, etc.). So 3, you ought to live here, it's been ages since I had to just come up with 3. I feel sorry for kids just starting out. I tell them to do volunteer work.

They were in a rush for people to start working. I don't think they even took my resume. I don't recall. They hired me right on the spot. I never have enough references or all their information. GHeez!WOW! It must be fun to get work there. I don't know how it is here now because I have worked since 2004. I have always found work quickly. It is common and normal here for them to ask for 3 references and they can't be relatives or personal friends. I had to fudge and put a person friend on or a ex co-worker type friend. That does sound tough in your area.

Hired right then and there. Wow! Except for temporary services, I haven't had that!

For temporary services, I spent hours on their computers. 1st an application, 2nd a typing test, 3rd a brush up on skills tutorial. Then they sit you in a room and go over all the federal forms, etc. For them, I have to figure half a day at each temp service place. If you're with your son or husband or the dogs are waiting in the car, you wouldn't have time. But for me, if I'm looking for a job, I learned from a book, getting a job is a job. So you go by yourself everywhere and spend the time. 40 hours of searching for a 40 hour per week job and 20 hours per week searching for a part-time job because getting a job is a job. If you don't have time for the application process, when will you have time for the job? I know, your situation is different. When we had one car, I dropped my husband off at work and drove around all day applying for work. Then at the end of the day, I picked him up. I did that day after day. I know, you have a son and school ends before, etc. But most jobs don't go on your schedule, they go on theirs. If I had kids, they'd have to go to the neighbors or a relatives or stay in after school program or something. Other times, I took our rural bus in and walked our city and my husband picked me up at the end of the day. The rural bus rots because we leave here at 9:45 and they go to other towns and then they don't get to our city until 11AM. Then they don't go to the Mall to pick you up until 4:30 and you don't get home until almost 5:30. There is only ONE bus per day in and ONE back, but that's more than we had before and many communities have lost their bus servcie because people weren't using it. I have to walk to the bus pick up areas from my home which is a mile. So if you really want a Walmart or K-mart job, go there like it's an office and you're going to apply. Can't? Then how would you work there? If most people fail the test then either the test isn't any good or the computer is a bear, or the people who apply haven't gotten proper education or the test is full of trick or psychological questions. The last one, they only want certain types of personalities working for them if that is the case. I took testing in college, you'd be surprised the stuff I know about tests. Had to evaluate and write papers on them. Also, some people say most people fail to discourage you. That way they don't have to do anything. Besides, my dear, you aren't most people. You're you, so don't listen to that.

No I didn't really want a walmart or Kmart job, I much rather have gotten in the school. When I did apply, my hours would have to have been first shift, that way I am at work while my son was at school. Plus at the time his sister was living at home.

Yeah, I figured you didn't really want a job with them or you would have figured it out.

yes, they do. It would be nice if we could at least all agree on below or above the line, now wouldn't it?