Dumb is NOT the new smart

United States
October 3, 2010 9:49pm CST
I have always been an effortlessly intelligent person with lots of views/perspectives on different things/people/issues and huge dreams. I have never hindered myself with stupidity or had to "dumb things down" for people who don't fully understand. I never pretended to not know something if I knew it or anything like that. Lately, I've been coming across some seriously and dangerously low IQ individuals... and the thing that shocks/saddens me the most is the fact that some of these people are OLDER than me. They are supposed to be more mature, more wise.. but that isn't the case at all. Still, even more people, (i.e. my friend) I am finding to not display their intelligence (not when needed..) but NOT AT ALL! I've witnessed one of my friends do this in order to pin a guy that she liked... but I just don't understand how making yourself seem less intelligent than you really are... benefits you. I would never, ever do that.
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@Qaeyious (2357)
• United States
4 Oct 10
I just had a flashback with some girl on my school bus attempting to taunt me with "You think you're so smart!" All I was doing was trying to get the rest of my homework done on the bus. My reply was, "If I was so smart, it wouldn't be so hard for me to maintain a B average." This was decades ago, so I don't remember the rest of the exchange if there was one. But that part of the conversation lingers with me, while I listen to the conversations around me. Most of the conversations are gossip, who's going out with whom, what happened at parties on previous nights. Some work stuff, some political stuff, but the latter two not so much. Now I might get into a conversation where the issue isn't intelligence, but opinion. Today's schism in US politics in particular. I consider myself a moderate, and I loathe the extremism on both right and left sides. I sometimes wonder if those attempting to get me to the dark side think that I'm not intelligent for not following their opinion. For example, most people are mystified when I tell them I've been voting third party candidates since the 90's because I don't like neither Democratic or Republican parties. They tell me I will never "win." Is that the purpose of voting? Or is it to make it known, to express, who I want to hold the office? If I vote for a Democrat or a Republican and they win, how does that make me a winner if I didn't want either of them? So most of the time I would just skirt around the issue with new people I meet. It will probably look like I'm less intelligent. But the fact would be I just get tired of expressing this opinion and having people think I'm either not intelligent or a nutcase. Doing it for love I will meditate more on.
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• United States
4 Oct 10
Quaeyious, You made some excellent points. Glad to have you in this discussion here today. Because though I am only 23 years old, I try to offer words of advice to those younger than me in the aspects of this type of thing because we've all been there. I don't think that expressing your opinion or choosing NOT to express your opinion would change anyone's thoughts of you. Why?? Because they are going to think and formulate an opinion about you regardless of what you say or your actions. So, let them choose to think what they want to think because at the end of the day.. not only can you not change it.. but how would it benefit YOU?? It doesn't put any money in your pocket lol. So in instances like that.. yes I voice my opinion and I am very open-minded to others ideas as well. I will not bash your idea/perspective/belief just because I do not feel the same. And I don't care whether they would feel that way about my view because if it becomes where there is a disagreement then that is where I will draw the line. But, the point is, I will never disperse all that I have here within myself to SHARE... just on the basis of someone else. I feel that if you don't want to listen to me.. then sheesh.. don't listen. Because someone else will. I am Democratic.. and I have my reasons. But, I will not go and try to "convert" (for lack of a better word) a Republican to the Democratic aspect of politics UNLESS they were willing to. SHARE YOUR OPINIONS FREELY!! AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT OFFENSIVE OR DEROGATORY TO WHERE YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE AN ISSUE. HEY, SHARE WITH THE WORLD HOW YOU FEEL... and never "dumb it down"! Thanks so much for sharing your views!! Hope to see you on future discussions.
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@jennyze (7029)
• Indonesia
4 Oct 10
I am dumb most of the time. Of if I thought I make a clever conversation, it turns out other people don't understand me. So, I resort back to being dumb.
@jennyze (7029)
• Indonesia
5 Oct 10
I got several benefits from surrounding myself with those you called idiots. I never thought of them as idiot, though. For one thing, they love me. And other thing, I found satisfaction in teaching them to be smart, and guile and witty. You must have a very close tight group, then.
• United States
4 Oct 10
But you shouldn't lower yourself or your standards for others. If you feel that you are conversing with less than smart people... then maybe you should change your circle that you are interacting with because believe it or not, the people that you choose to hang around rubs off on you. That's why I always surround myself with people headed places that has an IQ because I can learn and grow from them. When you surround yourself with idiots, they are learning and growing from YOU... which can be draining. Where does your benefit come in?? Thanks for commenting!!
• United States
5 Oct 10
Well in that instance, I can understand to an extent. If you are surrounded by people that you love and that love you... they will understand you even if they aren't the most intelligent people or you aren't. But... I would never lower my intelligence for anyone that I loved or that loved me... because that just isn't the type of person that I am. You are blessed to have those that love you.
• United States
4 Oct 10
I agree, stupid is not the new smart. People should be educated, people should aspire to more, and people should want more than what they have and want more than what they have already achieved. People should constantly want to improve who and what they are.
• United States
5 Oct 10
I could NOT agree more!! People should always want to know more... always strive to be the best in everything that they set out to do. Thanks for sharing your views!!
@GardenGerty (157661)
• United States
5 Oct 10
First of all, maturity and intelligence do not go hand in hand. In fact, people who are born dumb, most of the time, will grow up dumb and enter into old age dumb. The phenomena of girls and women acting dumb so as not to challenge a male, and perhaps to win his approval has been around a long time. There are studies that demonstrate that once a girl reaches about sixth grade she may deliberately refuse to excel at math or any other male dominated subject for fear of not being liked. It happens, if I am not mistaken, to at least fifty percent of our young women. The girls who learn to like themselves and display their natural intelligence are really more attractive, but do not realize that fact. The fact is, there is nothing new about people deliberately dumbing themselves down.
• United States
5 Oct 10
I never said that maturity and intelligence were determined by each other. But, they are factors in this particular discussion. Intelligence is not based on age.. but people whom are older SHOULD be more wiser because they have experienced more... but that seems not to be the case at all. And, about young women dumbing themselves down just for fear of being in what they think to be more catered to males is downright ridiculous. Those females definitely need some talking to... counseling would be better.. because that is a serious problem. I never said that there was generally nothing "NEW" about people pretending to be dumb... but it is definitely not the new smart. Just as 40 is NOT the new 20. lol Thanks for commenting!!
@urbandekay (18278)
4 Oct 10
As a young man I had to pretend to be not dumb but not as bright as I am, in order to get girls! all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
5 Oct 10
Yes indeed, girls are not attracted to highly intelligent men or at least then they weren't perhaps things are different now. all the best urban
• United States
5 Oct 10
I can't speak for everyone, but I am highly attracted to an intelligent man. My husband is very intelligent.. he has been blessed with the talent of music and lyricism. He can think of things so fast sometimes that all is put together and makes sense and I just sit back in amazement and wonder how he does it. That's what attracted me to him even more after I got to know him. I couldn't imagine had married someone that wasn't very smart.. it'd more than likely BORE me.
• United States
4 Oct 10
That is ridiculous!! I just can't see myself doing anything like that. Did you get girls that way?? Thanks for commenting!!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
6 Oct 10
Me either, I am who I am and if you like it that is just fine and if you don't like it, that is your problem. Another thing that I would never do is try to act smarter than I am to try to impress someone. I have always been the kind of person that wants people to accept me as I am. That said, I wouldn't say that I am an extremely intelligent person, but I also know that I am in no way a very stupid person.
• United States
6 Oct 10
You made a very good point, Dorannmwin. A lot of people do the complete opposite and try to act more intelligent than they really are and that almost always and ultimately fails too because they cannot keep up to portray that image for too long. It's crazy. I feel like that if people were to try just being themselves sometimes.. they will find that to be more effective than to be a FAKE. Thanks for sharing your views!! Excellent point you made there.
• India
4 Oct 10
Oh yes, making yourself seem less intelligent does help… at least I see it all the time in my office. There are a few of us who (let’s say) just love doing our work straight and clear. We say it clearly when we understand a brief and even when we don’t, we make a genuine effort and at the end of the day, we do have a clear idea of what’s expected from us. Now the situation is such that most of the responsibility in the office gets dumped on our ‘capable’ shoulders and overburdens us most of the times… while all those ‘stupid’ people who just stare incoherently most of the time (as if they’re not really comprehending) get away doing much less. Also, (and I’, not generalizing here)….I’ve seen women acting stupid in front of men and getting extra advantage by just being stupid and weak.
• United States
4 Oct 10
And, that's crazy!! I could not imagine subjecting myself to such stupidity. Women who indulge in making themselves look retarded just to pull a man (as I explained that my friend did).. is desperate.. or really stupid for real. There is a flip side to things.. some people PRETEND to be intelligent and have the IQ of a walnut. Sometimes it's hard to differentiate between the two at first... but as time goes on, true colors show. No one can hide their inner being for too long. Thanks for sharing!!
• Philippines
4 Oct 10
Some people are too smart that they ended up so stupid. When did i discover this? last election. and it was the worst realization that i have ever experienced. almost three months of telling the people who's the better and yet they stick to loyalty and popularity. i feel sad for those who couldn't see reason.. I felt depressed for days, not even my own family wouldn't listen to me. but that was then. it's part of life, maybe if i was insulted in a way, i would be too defensive too. but never this stupid.
• United States
4 Oct 10
I can agree with your first statement to the fullest. My grandmother always told me that lots of people have "book sense"... but lack "commen sense" or "street sense". I can be one of those people sometimes.. when I'm analyzing a situation too hard. As far as the other situation goes, you can only voice your opinions to others.. it is up to them whether they choose to embrace or dismiss. As the old saying goes.. "You can lead a horse to water.. but you can't make him drink it." Thanks for sharing your views!!
@hvedra (1619)
4 Oct 10
You get a lot of it in some schools. Certainly the one I went to it was considered uncool to be intelligent and because some of the thickest kids were also the biggest thugs a lot of kids pretended to be dumb to avoid being picked on. I don't get your friend at all. If a guy only liked her if she was dumb he's not worth having.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
4 Oct 10
I would never consider being diumb as the new smart. We should never belittle our intelligence. There is nothing wrong with being smart. you don't have to be dumb to be accepted by others. if you feel that you do, then those people are not really worthy of you in the first place.
• United States
4 Oct 10
I couldn't have said it better. Those who allow you to degrade yourself by attempting to lower your intelligence shouldn't even be considered as friends in the first place. It is so hard sometimes to differentiate between who cares about you and who doesn't... so I understand how some people can get caught in the trap. But, there are more things to life than that!! Thanks so much for sharing your views!!
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
4 Oct 10
can that be a reflection of problems with the system of education? or of society in general? hmm... i'd rather not include genetics...i don't think it's just to call people dumb because they were born that way or something. though i do believe that having smart parents is a huge plus on some people. there are a lot of dumb people in my country, but it's because of our awful system of education. we have bad facilities, bad (underpaid) teachers...i feel sad just thinking about it. maybe some people pretend to be dumb because dumb is cool. smart people are losers. i've seen this theme so many times in movies. i'm not sure if it's true in real life though. anyway, maybe you find people dumb because you measure their level of intelligence relative to yours. if you're as smart as you said, then you're probably above average, which doesn't make you an ideal benchmark. a LOT of people WILL seem dumb beside you (that would probably even include me).
• United States
4 Oct 10
I don't think that that includes you at all. You should never say that about yourself. I find that there are different forms of intelligence... it doesn't always mean so much as "I know this fact or... I know that fact"... but moreso how to apply what you HAVE learned to be successful in life. Some people that fall underneath the average intelligence bracket could be a victim of a poor educational system... but that shouldn't stop that person from achieving the intelligence peak that they desire. With how the world is today, there is nothing that one can't find out that they are willing to know. There are libraries..the Internet and people just waiting around to teach you something that they know because it is what they love to do. I hope that you will encourage those around you that you feel aren't so intelligent that the sky is the limit. Just because you are at a certain point now.. doesn't mean that you have to stay there. Thanks for sharing your views!!
@m_perez (506)
• United States
4 Oct 10
I actually used to come across really...uhh.not so intelligent..people when I was younger. It made me want to smack them. I always try to avoid individuals like that by taking advanced placement courses. Anyways, I have noticed that there are people out there that pretend to be dumb in order to benefit. Supposedly intelligent people are found to be annoying, which I completely disagree with. It frustrates me to see how many people just don't care about building their intelligence....I just don't get people nowadays.
• United States
4 Oct 10
I understand exactly where you are coming from. Displaying intelligence today is viewed as being a "smarta$$" or a smart alec or anything of that nature. The people that pretend to lack intelligence in order to gain are only selling THEMSELVES short because at the end of the day... all impressions are lasting impressions. Not just first impressions. I have never stooped so low to anyone's level to not be myself and be the genius that I know I am!! I don't get those type of individuals either... it's crazy!! Thanks for sharing your views!!
• Philippines
4 Oct 10
My friend and I share the same sentiments with you. I know a lot of people who pretend to not know things just so they could be on the good side of a senior. There were instances in my college life wherein our instructors obviously didn't know a thing that they were talking about and even admitted it to the class. I didn't listen to a word she was saying. I even tried to correct her but she simply ignored my comment. When we had the exams, she gave out the supposedly right answer, which was so wrong. I had to stand up in front of the class and tell her her mistake. I would have preferred to have corrected her error discreetly but she challenged me to do it.
• United States
4 Oct 10
I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes you have to display your intelligence more openly and outwardly than you normally would just to get your point across. Especially if you are right, you should not hesitate. Even though there is a time and place to do things (true enough)... there is also a point where you improvise lol.. Thanks for sharing!!
• Portugal
4 Oct 10
That's such a modest post you've got there... Anyway, some older people might not have had the chance at education you've had, or might have never been that blessed with brains to begin with. Not everyone has the capacity to become "intelligent". Sadly, one thing you're right about is today's generation's tendency to think dumb is cool. It's just sad, really.
• United States
4 Oct 10
OK.. I understand that educational standards were not set as high as it possibly is now. However, I have always been an open-minded individual... willing to learn what I didn't know.. even if I didn't have a particular interest in it. Some elders tend not to be open-minded thinking that because they are older, they are wiser and expect people to sit and listen and take heed to every word that they say, but not doing the same in return. That's crazy. But you are right... people are thinking that they will get further by displaying that they don't know a lot when it's the exact opposite that gets you more out of life. Thanks for sharing your views!! Greatly appreciated.
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