bp returns to profit

@jb78000 (15139)
November 2, 2010 8:31am CST
i thought it would take longer, maybe a year, but bp has bounced back already. isn't it nice to know that while lives might be lost, ecosystems wrecked, and livelihoods ruined, big corporations rarely suffer the after effects of their negligence for long? to make this a discussion, what do you think bp's profits should be spent on? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11671953
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Nov 10
Let's just say that since both BP and Haliburton knew weeks before the explosion that the cement mixture used to seal the bottom of the well was unstable, they should have to use them to pay some huge fines and penalties. Personally, I think this rises to the level of criminal negligence or worse! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/us/29spill.html?_r=2&hp I guess we can all rest assured now that Tony Hayward now has totally gotten his life back. What a relief! Annie
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Nov 10
So why is it that there are no arrests? There is probable cause and the evidence does show there were crimes committed? So what are The FBI, or any other applicable part of the Justice Department waiting for? Why haven't any of the Attorneys General of the effected Gulf states issue arrest warrants? They may not have jurisdiction at the site of the explosion, but it did lead to infractions of the laws of each states. What is preventing justice from being served here?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
3 Nov 10
The commission report hasn't been officially released so maybe once that comes out there will be something done. I sincerely hope so. http://www.examiner.com/political-spin-in-national/senate-republicans-block-subpoena-power-for-bp-oil-spill-investigation Annie
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@jb78000 (15139)
3 Nov 10
he's kind of unemployable now isn't he? doesn't matter though, i am sure he'll manage just fine on his 10 million pension pot, plus payoff. he was only the scapegoat anyway, partly responsible but certainly not completely. http://www.channel4.com/news/demonised-and-vilified-tony-haywards-departure
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Nov 10
BP profits should be spent the same way anyone else's profits should be spent. However the leaders of the organization see fit. Did you hear about what is going on along the Gulf coast? Fisherman, shrimpers and other people who work the gulf are able to go back to work, but many are choosing not to.. why? Because the money they are collecting from BP is more than they can make working, so they refuse to go back to work. The hope was that the money BP was ordered to pay would sustain the local economy long enough for the industries in the area to "bounce back". In the end though, the BP money is actually stunting progress because of the artificial economy is easier and more lucrative in the short run.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
if this is true i don't care. bp caused the disaster by cutting corners and if people are making bp pay more so be it. i don't think anybody should be allowed to take human lives and cause environmental catastrophes and get off scott free.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
the shrimp and fish in some areas have been given the all clear. in fact many areas were not affected at all. the problem is of course persuading consumers that the seafood is safe to eat. i think the effects on the seafood and tourist industries will continue for a long time, regardless of how the ecosystems recover.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
2 Nov 10
Lamb just look at it this way, when you fry up your shrimp there's no need to grease the pan....
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@djbtol (5493)
• United States
2 Nov 10
BP's obligation was to clean up as best as possible and limit environmental damage. If they have done that, then no further 'punishment' is necessary. As far as BP's profits, they should spend them on what they want. In the US, they might spend them on building more refining capacity, but that is not likely for two reasons: 1. too difficult to get an environmental permit. 2. more capacity may cause a reduction in price of gasoline Obviously, I am not of the camp that says corporations are evil, especially those that make a profit! On the other hand, there are lots of issues in terms of drilling, oil supply and the price of gasoline that need to be looked into.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
i think their other obligation is to ensure that entirely preventable tragedies do not happen again. they, and other oil corporations, have been getting away with, literally, murder for a very long time. i don't think corporations are evil either. i think they are amoral, which is not the same as immoral. in other words you can view them pretty much as a robot hamster, whose only purpose is to collect virtual seeds, or in the case or corporations, profits. nothing else is ever as important.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
there is a combination of insufficient checks and regulations and those that exist not being enforced properly. in both cases i think this is down to the VERY cosy relationships big business has with government. for an example go and see how much bp has given to both the republicans AND the democrats in your country, and this is not considering their lobbying. i think there might be some corporations that are run on a more or less ethical basis. but not many. and they get away with things that would have a small business owner done for manslaughter. letting them regulate themselves is like leaving a mouse to guard a grain store. rant over
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Nov 10
After they pay off my house and my car, I think they should go and pick up trash everywhere...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Nov 10
Fine but I get final veto of the castle's budget!
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
nice idea, but any remaining profits will only be used to pay off your house and car after they have been used to buy me a castle converted into a rabbit sanctuary.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
hmmm. will you cut the carrot allowance?
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
2 Nov 10
As long as they're handling the responsibility for the mess they caused, I don't rightly care what they're spending money on or that they're continuing to make money. I'm sure BP employes a lot of people who need jobs too. As far as I know: BP was responsibile for an accident. They agreed with government to do X. Are they not doing that? If so, then I have a beef. Beyond that, flaming them seems a bit like coming down on those AIG guys who got the bonuses. "big corporations rarely suffer the after effects of their negligence for long" True enough. Want to know who never suffers at all, not even a little tiny bit? It starts with P and ends with oliticians.
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• United States
2 Nov 10
You can flame them all you want without any apology--however sarcastic it may be--to me. Besides, flaming them about that is something even I'd do. They deserve the brunt because they are responsible. Flaming them about still daring to exist is a bit much for me. Like, "How dare they make money after that!" Nah. That's stuff for the bunnies out there. Fish can't bang the drum so loudly with only fins. I'm all for BP going away, though. I don't want anything to do with them. But my 9th sense picks up some folks wanting big daddy gubment to swoop in and squash them. The fish don't play dat, yo. What's a company like that made up of - a few moron execs and a few thousand grunts? Maybe I should be the one apologizing for not wanting to see the regular employees lose their jobs because some are ready to completely bury an entire business (industry more like it) when something bad happens. I don't know...
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
did i say that? no i did not. what i was drawing attention to is after every disaster caused by corner cutting it is rarely the big corp that feels the aftereffects for very long. this is one of the reasons they don't bother taking too many precautions to prevent such things happening. yes, something might go wrong and yes it might momentarily affect their public image and profits but only briefly. therefore might as well take the risk eh? second point - i know you would love to have your country run by big business, who are known for being as ethical as big government. more so in fact. but they need to be regulated, left to their own devices they are about as responsible as robot hamsters. third point - did i say anything about what should happen to bp and bp employees? no. in fact i remember pointing out a while ago that boycotting bp gas stations didn't do any good whatsoever and just hurt people who were not responsible.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
i apologise for 'flaming' a big corporation whose actions (or rather, inaction) cost 11 people their lives and caused catastrophic damage.
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• Canada
2 Nov 10
Wont the profit be spent on themselves??? Shareholders must be jumping with joy now. They'll be able to get new cars, brand new jets and fly off to their clean islands in the sun. Thats what Id do, wouldnt you?
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• Canada
3 Nov 10
Nobody told ME that!!! Damn them
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Nov 10
I think the BP execs should get to decide how blue bunnies spend their money. What unit of currency do blue bunnies use anyway?
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
3 Nov 10
Sadly...we never learn! General populace blessed with short term memories and forgiving hearts. Lest we forget..."Exxon Valdez", the environment is still suffering from the effects of this magnanimous disaster, was the precedent set there? There is absolutley NO possibility that any form of modern science can predict the long-term affects...put the profits in a slush fund/ for on-going earth rehab. Cheers!
• Canada
3 Nov 10
We can pass laws for just about everything...Pass a law that deems them high-risk business..and a healthy percentage of profits go into a slush fund "for earth re-hab"....shiza...look at the "Tar Sands" and the devastation there, without a disaster! Finally, gotta hand it to Canada's Federal Gov't...they have just totally denied a Copper Mine based on the environmental impact...that's a real thumbs up....sure, bad for the "big" business..bad for the economy in the area..but great for the long-term picture. Cheers!
@jb78000 (15139)
3 Nov 10
those short term memories and forgiving hearts i think are factored in when decisions are made sadly. you might get an appalling image for about five minutes and profits might go down after each disaster (although not always) but a few months later everything is back to normal. well except the environment, and i don't think those that die are coming back. business is business though
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
2 Nov 10
Giving raises to all of the executives for not letting something like a major oil spill ruin profits
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
2 Nov 10
LOL...Well you know Americans there's a difference between right and wrong needless to say many do not know the difference
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
well i imagine that is what the profits WILL be spent on. however is that where they should go? i can think of other uses. perhaps donations to a donkey sanctuary? [@ss puns welcomed]
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
2 Nov 10
Building better and safer rigs.
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
making the old ones safe would be a start
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
2 Nov 10
Sorry, blue bunny. I am enraged since hearing this news. I cannot yet discuss this with ny semblance of logic. Profit?? After all the damage that was done. Perhaps they would send some more plastic tents to Haiti as the one and a half million who are living in tents and facing a hurricane have no where to go. Perhaps they could have helped so many nations who, through no fault of their own are sinking even further into poverty. Sorry, am not rational over this at all.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
it is ok, you are not the only one who feels anger
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Nov 10
I am actually a little saddened that they have returned to profit so quickly. I thought they would be suffering as a company for much longer. I would like to see them suffer as long as the environment in the gulf does. It will take years for that area to repair itself after such a catastrophe and I think that BP should be forced to give their profits to charities for a similar time frame. I know that this will never happen, but this is what I would like to see. BP petrol stations here in Australia used to always be just a few cents per litre more expensive than all their competitors I always found, but as soon as the oil spill happened they became on par or cheaper in fact! I think this was due to them losing massive amounts of customers. People decided to boycott them. My wife will not even let me stop at one on road trips when she needs to go to the toilet. Recently she held on until we passed another company further up the road!
@jb78000 (15139)
16 Nov 10
i'd like to see them (and all the other oil companies) spending money on making sure completely avoidable tragedies do not happen again.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
17 Nov 10
Yeah, me too. Hopefully this might shock them all into taking better care with what they are doing. I doubt it though!
@unique16 (1531)
• United States
2 Nov 10
hello jb78000, Yes, it is amazing it took only 1 year to have profits again. There profits should be spent on alternative fuel because oil will run out somewhere down the line. Plus it kick ourt habit make us more secure in long run for our country USA. We used to be such a creative country with advent of computers you think there would be another source of fuel out there. The car makers are not moving fast enough and not making there prices cheaper for the avergage person by this type of car. Thanks and have a great day Sincerley Unique16
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Nov 10
there are alternatives to oil. the big companies won't be that interested until the alternatives become extremely profitable though.