The real cost of Obamacare...

OK... I am going to talk about this from the top of my head, as I am not really familiar with your system. From what I have heard about it, if you don't have a job, you don't have a medical insurance. So I assume that it is your boss who pays for it. Why would you take the word of one company against the word of the government? There are too many anti-Obama people in your country... to believe anyone at this stage. What makes you think that you have the most expensive medical system in the world? Is it because only the rich can afford a doctor? And the doctors know how to charge the rich? A full private medical cover for a single male in Australia cost $2500 a year. How much do you pay for yours? And this is a private cover. Nothing to do with the government medicare cover for which you pay also. Of course the cost will go up if you have to provide medical assisstance for all the people who don't have a cover under the old system. That's logic. But part of that cost rise can be offset by providing doctors working for lower fees in the new system. It is a fact of life that providing a medical system for everyone cost huge amount of money. And every country providing that service had its medical budget running in the red for decades. The government make up the difference from general revenue, so as to not increase its medicare levy on the taxpayer. Australia does not have a medical cover for dentists, because the government simply cannot afford it. But in France, doctors and dentists are part of the one package. If you are protesting against it, because it is going to cost you more, without giving you anything new for it. You are right. But the scheme is about compassion for those who cannot afford to go to the doctor. And if you don't care about those people... there is nothing else I can say to change your mind. Obamacare is not about money. It is about compassion for the 40 per cent of the American population who have been living on the poverty line for decades. I simply cannot understand how the richest country in the world can be so proud, patriotic and arrogant while 40 per cent of its population lives in poverty. It reminds me of India building monuments to itself by hosting the Commonwealth games, while the majority of its population is starving in the street without a roof above their head. We still have a few things to fix in this world. That's for sure. And it does not look like it is the rich who are going to fix it.

It would be more effective (and more useful) if just one person who rants against the health care reform legislation had a better idea. Just one. Instead of going to off into a tirade about "lies, corruption and fraud", one productive alternative would be good. Just one. From just one person. It hasn't happened and it isn't going to happen.

Ok, Ted, now lets see a memo from a company that isn't as massive as Con-way Freight, with it's 365 operating locations...which, by the way, is one of the subsidiary companies of Conway, Inc., which operates on five continents with more than $4 billion in sales yearly. I really don't recall anyone saying that it wouldn't increase costs to employers.

Ted, that is ONE COMPANY, I talk to hundreds of small businesses every week, and they are telling me that it will cut their cost. Is Conwey Trucking telling them the truth? Are they switching to a different plan that the company will pay much less, and pass the additional charges on to the employees (which is VERY common today, much easier to blame the government, and many don't like Obama care so they are an easy escape goat). You have to have all of the facts to stories like this before you just blindly follow them.

Ted, that is ONE COMPANY, I talk to hundreds of small businesses every week, and they are telling me that it will cut their cost. Is Conwey Trucking telling them the truth? Are they switching to a different plan that the company will pay much less, and pass the additional charges on to the employees (which is VERY common today, much easier to blame the government, and many don't like Obama care so they are an easy escape goat). You have to have all of the facts to stories like this before you just blindly follow them.

I think Obama Care will be good for homeless people

Thanks for that info. My insurance policy is not being offered for 2011 and many of my senior friends find themselves in the same boat. So we are having to find new polices but they will cost us more.

Yep, the completely ignored the fact that there was a fatal flaw in the system. Thus, rates will keep spiraling indefinitely no matter how many people buy into the system. The system as flawed as it was did have some very good things that Obamacare has outlawed such as Health savings plans. As for better ideas, eliminate the necessity that people who are age 65 have to accept Medicare as their primary insurance. If the individual reaches that age and still is eligible for their work insurance why not let them carry that insurance as their primary until they retire? It will save money in Medicare without downgrading the benefits. Health savings plans are a great idea. Save money when you are healthy for the times when you are sick. Open up the competition field for insurance companies. Revamp the insurance malpractice industry. There are so many more simple things that can be done. As for the fatal flaw, I have mentioned it before. There are no cost controls in place. Cost controls are effective in countries like Japan, Germany, Canada, England, and so on.