Mylot Issue: Newbies, Oldies or Veterans

hiu this tees me off.first the newer people here complain to us older ones who have been here awhile about getting so many of their discussions deleted. well gee whiz nelly if you complain and we step in and suggest you go read the guidelines and rules and questions and answers did it ever dawn on any of you we are not reminders, we are just trying to help you. I sure cannot help it if someone wants to twist a gentle trying to help response into I am being abusive or mean or am the law here. I was once a new person here and I asked for help too and I did read the information and I did not ever have a discussion deleted.Perhaps some do not like us using oldies or newcomers but just how are we to address someone who we can see is really new?How about not being so dammed sensitive? I am 84 and I am also sick of people looking down on older people as senile and decrepit because most of us are none of those things. In my way of looking at life, if I call to a person who is walking along and did not see the sign that said danger bridge is out, and tell her that ahead is a bridge that has a huge hole in it so be careful. You can not go further on this walk, I am being a reminder, an unkind, police type person? Can anyone tell me this is not common sense? I am not the mylot police, I have just been here a few years and do know the ropes.

well...my mind always differ them in an automatic way. i don't know how it works. it just we get respect for the older and give some clue for the newbie. but i don't do nepotism here since we are all a big family

I have never really categorized anyone in any site that I have been a member of. The usual set up would be newbies for those who are indeed new and the regulars who been a member of the site for a good amount of time. You don't need to mention that most of the time 'cause everybody would know it already. For those who are new who get bothered by reminders, that's normal. They are just getting use to the rules and constant reminders would just constant until they don't even realize being reminded. On being categorized, other members do that. They can do that and others might follow but, of course, not everyone would agree. I remember a discussion that you made before about Responder Collectors. That's the same as categorizing and you explained it quite well on that discussion. I guess some that wouldn't agree to such category would be those who do belong to that category (^_^") Anyway, this slightly reminds me of Edward Said's Orientalism.. well, just on the categorizing part..

I have to agree that not categorising people would be a really good idea. After all how long is a newbie going to be a newbie, for example although I am becoming an oldie ( in more ways than one!) and I don’t mind that label too much I guess. Really I don’t think there is any need for any labels, just like in the offline world we are in this together and no one is all that different from one another. There are always going to be those who are not easy to please!

Catagory, hmm, have I been put in a catagory? If so I never noticed. I was new at this at one point, that is true. I appreciated the help of those that have been here to show how it works. I honestly did not read the guidelines when I first started so in that I made mistakes. I appreciated being told by other lotters it helped me. Then I actually went in and read them. I have seen many others make the same mistakes when they have first started, so I have given the same respect to them that was given to me when I started. Showed them where to look and read so that their posts would not get deleted. I felt I was passing forward the help I received. If this is what your calling reminders I didn't have a problem with them. Sure I didn't like them at the time that they showed I wasn't following the rules, still they helped, that is what I appreciated. Newbie, oldies, and veterans... don't feel I fit into any of those except I am in my fifties does that count...

I would agree on that. It defeats the purpose of having to contribute on mylot's community where status which you have mentioned can never be regarded as more beneficial. Although it could strikingly motivate them to be more active, equality should likely take it on to prove that.

Hi Letran! I think that you are right about putting people into categories. It really isn't necessary and maybe it does make some people uncomfortable. People are going to act the way they want to no matter what and nothing that is said or done to them is going to change that unfortunately. So, I'd advise everyone to ignore those that try to take them out of their "comfort zone" as my "Rehab Counselor" would always say (and I hated hearing)! The more she said it the madder I got! Anway, you get what I'm saying?

As far as my opinion is concern. Those words is not a big issues. It's not bad if we say newbies or oldies because that is reality...

Haha, sounds good. It's so true, I'm glad that someone finally stepped up and said something about it. Although I still stereotype newbies sometimes..I don't try!!! But I am prejudice I guess because I've been spammed by a few too many. I'll try to be more open-minded though. It does seem like there's a hierarchy within the MyLot community, something like - the more posts you have, the more you know, or something like..When obviously that's not true!

Letran- I remember when you brought this up before and I believe some others have also brought this topic up in the past where "interests" were concerned. There was a growing concern that people were trying to keep others out of certain interests such as the ones that are country or region specific. There was also the concern that you brought up that there were those who were overly concerned about "titles" and some using said titles as privilege on Mylot. I understand that people are free to write on any topic they wish to write on, but I know that the guidelines suggest that one write on what knows something about. We are to provide quality answers and often times if people write on a subject they know nothing about they end up spreading misinformation and that does not do anyone any good. So I can understand that those in certain categories may simply be requesting that those who know something reply instead of people replying just to get one more post toward earnings. To give you an example, I don't comment on the many government posts regarding the Philippines. Why? I simply do not know anything about how the country operates so I cannot speak about it. In terms of titles, well they are just man made. Titles do not really reflect the quality of one's work. It reminds me of rank in the military. Some of the best have been low rank while some of the poorest have been high rank officials. (Though no disrespect to our military men and women is meant, most will know just what I mean). I would not focus so much on the words that someone wants to throw around with their "title". I would love to see us simply avoid the use of any title and base our feelings on the merit of the individual. To share with you there are times I disagree on a topic with someone, but that doesn't mean I dislike the person. It simply means that the particular discussion is something we disagree about. Sometimes people can dislike a person based upon one difference, but I'd like to think that we could all learn that it is those differences that make our world so unique. Namaste-Anora

i think it`s one of the best idea..i support it but it needs allow from admin

Hi Letran! As much as we don't like to be judged and categorized we shouldn't be doing the same to others. It's absolutely uncalled for. Veterans or newbies do not mean that much as to the quality of the discussion, one that is practical and serves to guide the users to find a solution or one that serves the objective of the post. Everyone deserves to be heard. Categorizing would only put walls between us. Have a great day too!

I do not believe I have categorized anyone outside of quality and or silly posting, in my silent brain. I try at all times to treat everyone fairly as I know I was a newbie once before. I suppose I can be categorized as a newbie as I am only reaching my 6th month, it just happens to be that I have posted so much at one time that I have the numbers that I do. I too hope we can simply get along and as mysd stated yesterday, it is December so we should try harder to be really nice, sort of Christmas presents to all and maybe continue to carry the niceness over there after.

I read your discussion. I consider my self a newbie in the sense that I am new to mylot so I will have less knowledge of the rules and regulations. I can go to the terms and conditions or the frequently asked questions for that, but it doesn't get fit in our mind instantly. I think people use this term only in this sense. If someone break the rule of discussions most of the time the person is new here. Instead of 'a newbie' I don't know what else will you call the person. People gain here the knowledge from each other. A newbie can have a bigger knowledge than the other person also. It doesn't bother me if someone call me a newbie, that is ok with me unless you don't misunderstand the term 'newbie'. Other words you said, like 'veterans', I am not familiar with these words, and I don't use them here.

I don't see there is a problem. A veteran has been here a while and knows the ropes, a regular is one who frequents the site on a regular basis unlike some who attend for a time then disappear for a time, then come back and so on. Then there are newbies who jump in without reading the TOS, FAQs or the guidelines. I see no problem with any of that provided there is respect shown to all. What I really hate, abhor, despise and detest is to be called a Mylotter or to be wished "happy mylotting". The name of this site is myLot. It is a registered name. I am a member of this site - NOT a mylotter. When I post something I am contributing...I am NOT mylotting.

It is much better to stand on neutral ground so we are not being branded as newbies, veterans as we are all the SAME in the eyes of the admin. We follow the same rules so why need to be any different?

Well I have never catergorized anybody as far as I know since I have been here... I was catergorized myself when I was a 'newbie' but after a few days and getting to my 100 posts it stopped!!! I have no idea how it could be ended but everywhere in life people are put into catergories, fair or not it happens and that really sucks too.. Hope you have a great day too!!!

hey^^ i guess that you are right we should all treat each other equally^^ me i dont mind i talk normally with someone that is here since long and those that are here since few monthes only^^ i just like to welcome people to mylot and explain to them tips to earn here^^ i just want them to feel comfortable and happy to belong here^^ i really like this site and it has amazing people here