Is Obama a Christian today?
By djbtol
@djbtol (5493)
United States
January 23, 2011 6:22pm CST
Many Christian churches celebrated Sanctity of Life today. They do that in opposition to Roe V. Wade, and they do it because God says in Psalm 139 that each life in the womb is precious to Him. The one who give life declares it to be precious and there is no pragmatic argument that can hold against that.
My pastor said that he believes the date of the Roe V. Wade decision is the darkest day in American history. Since that day more than 50,000,000 babies have been slaughtered.
Meanwhile, the President of historical significance, the one that makes us proud of our country said this:
"Today marks the 38th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that protects women's health and reproductive freedom, and affirms a fundamental principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters.
I am committed to protecting this constitutional right. I also remain committed to policies, initiatives, and programs that help prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant women and mothers, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption.
And on this anniversary, I hope that we will recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights, the same freedoms, and the same opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams." Obama
It is amazing that obama wants to intrude in every area of our lives but one. He believes that it is governments job to control people's lives because they cannot do it for themselves. But there is one thing he believes families can handle on their own - the murder of a baby. Why is this? Obama wants the job done, but people like him who push abortion, do not want to wear any of the blood. And just to make sure you know he is listening to the TEA party, he confirms that it is your constitutional right to take the life of a little one.
It is almost beyond comprehension. Is this really America?
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8 responses
@RebeccaScarlett (2532)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
I want to point out that just because he said that, doesn't mean he personally approves of abortion. He could be sickened by it, and is just doing his job, in fact upholding his responsibility to the people of America, by reflecting their opinions. After all, it is the job of politicians to uphold the will of the people they represent.
The current Prime Minister of Canada is a conservative and a Christian. He is against abortion. He wanted to reduce Canada's foreign aid to places where abortions were performed, but the public outcry made him reconsider because it is his job to do what the citizens want. Personally he is saddened by abortion, but when a politician forces his personal views on the people he becomes a dictator.
I believe that the majority of Americans still support a woman's right to a first trimester abortion, but I could be wrong because of course I have not taken a referendum.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
24 Jan 11
In the first place, as far as I'm concerned it's NONE of my concern whether this President or any President is a Christian today, was a Christian yesterday or will be one tomorrow. That's a private and personal matter and shouldn't be relevant to how one does one's job governing the country.
Next, what of what President Obama had to say do you have a problem with? Do you think the government should intrude on private family matters? Are you against programs to prevented unintended pregnancies? Are you opposed to supporting pregnant women and mothers or promoting adoption?
What gives you the idea the President is "pushing" abortion? What do you think he could do to stop it anyway?
Annie
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jan 11
"Pushing abortion" would be if he's going around forcing women to terminate pregnancies, which is far from reality. Supporting a woman's right to choose and supporting women who have chosen abortion is just that, SUPPORT. It is in no way whatsoever "pushing abortion" by any means.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
24 Jan 11
I agree with you, GCL. I really don't know of any politician who is or has been "pushing" abortion. On the other hand, I've known of quite a few who proclaim themselves to be "pro-life" when what they REALLY are is "pro-fetus" and once there's a living, breathing BABY outside the womb he or she and the mother are on their own!
Annie
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Since when has Obama said that the government should control anyone's lives? On what matters?
And yes, it absolutely is the individual's choice to get an abortion or not. It is NO one's business what a woman chooses to do with her body. No woman should EVER be obligated to carry a pregnancy she is unwilling or unable to birth. There is nothing "beyond comprehension" about it. Damn right this is America, keep your bible out of my uterus.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Are you awake? obama has just recently decided that every American must by his health insurance program.
Go ahead and kill your baby then. Just because it is legal (thank you obama) does not mean it is right. Don't forget to rinse off the scissors. I would not want your scissors to rust and be ruined, since you will likely want to use it again.
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Have you ever considered educating yourself, or do you think spouting off absurdities somehow makes you sound more believable?
Universal health care has nothing whatsoever to do with "forcing" anything into doing anything. It's providing basic health care to everyone equally. There is no "government control" involved, it's recognizing a citizen's basic right to medical attention, just as nearly every other first-world country has.
And as for your "scissors" comment...You have really got to be kidding me. Where in the world did you get the idea of "scissors"? But that's beside the pint. Did it ever occur to you that some people may actually just respect other's rights to conduct their lives by what's right for them without passing inane and baseless judgments against them? Are you aware that there are many women who would never or have never terminated a pregnancy of their own but are completely respectful of a woman's right to control her own body by her own decisions?
Furthermore, abortion is not universally considered "murder". It's primarily Christians who think that, and even then not all Christians agree. A first, or even early second, trimester fetus is non-sentient, unaware, undeveloped and has no autonomy. It doesn't feel pain, it's not "tortured" by being aborted and it does not "know" what's happening. All those "mommy, please don't kill me!" poems are utter biological bunk. An organism cannot think nor be aware if it doesn't possess a brain.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Yes, this is America... just not the one our Founding Fathers envisioned. The things that are occurring these days bears no resemblance to the principles that our country was began with.
We are the ones to control our lives... the government only exists at our consent... the consent of the governed.
"When any form of government becomes destructive or evil, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and institute new government."
Our government passed that threshold long ago, and it is way past time to make things right again.
Anyone who thinks that it is OK to murder the unborn is in no way a Christian... that includes 0bama and the Liberals.... and anyone else who thinks that way.
We are told that we shall know them by their works, well their works are talking plainly.
Anyone who supports abortion is covered in the blood of the murdered ones, and they shall answer for it when they are judged... and they will be judged.
Our country is being ruled by the spirit of the Antichrist, because so much that occurs is anti-Christian in nature... from the tolerance of homosexuals to the murder of the unborn to the attempted slavery of the people by the government, and to the anti-Christian attitude of our leaders and popular culture.
The Bible tells of a great falling away from God, and these times are proving once again that the Bible is truth.
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jan 11
The Founding Fathers envisioned a world of personal freedom and a separation of church and state. Just because some Christians don't like abortion does not mean they have a right to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Which is the basic foundation of separating church and state.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
16 Feb 11
I think he is a Christian in name only, but knowing how he works, I would not be surprised. He wants to be re-elected, and tragically he probably will because most of the black people will vote for him, not like the others who consider what a candidate does. As for the abortion, it is like that, when they want to murder babies in the womb or allow a girl to do so, they say that they can go ahead and do so. Yet they want to tell you what to eat, what to pay. It does not sound like America to me.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
21 Aug 11
When it is obvious that obama and his kind take the issue of personal rights and twist it all up in knots, then it does seem to indicate that there is really another agenda driving his decisions. That agenda is kept hidden as much as possible.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
22 Aug 11
He sounds more like a Communist. I lived through the Cold War and have relatives who lived unto Communism and he fits the profile. He wants the rich to be taxed more, he considers anyone making $250,000 or more as rich. He wants everyone else to have the same income, and yet like the Kremlin leaders of decades ago, he is able to go on trips at America;s expense and lives in luxury. He wants to turn America to a socialist country where all initiative to improve themselves is gone. Except of course for what he approves of.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
20 Aug 11
I agree it is kind of ironic that he does want to be all up in our business except when it comes to this one matter. That is all I will say about my beliefs in this because I don't wan to get in to a debate about abortion and abortion rights. All I will say is that I would never personally have an abortion. I couldn't do it.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
29 Aug 11
Hi Djbtol,
This is probably one of the few issues that I happen to agree with Obama on. Prior to Roe vs Wade, abortions were also committed. How many? There really is no way to know for sure. There were underground, illegal doctors that would commit abortions and often in unsafe and unsanitary conditions. Women tried to abort their own babies. The only statistics really known on this are the ones that were caught or the women that had tragic results from trying to do their own. Most women that seek abortion struggle with this emotional and painful decision and do not come to this conclusion lightly and without a great deal of thought.
http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
24 Jan 11
I guess he just wants to make that horrible obligation to be on our own hands. It's our own decision in the end after all. Abortion is a serious thing and I think Obama understands that. I think it's not that he just doesn't want to get blood on his hands, I think it's more on human rights. 
