Who knew a speech could have so many words, yet say nothing at all,

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
January 26, 2011 6:47am CST
As we have come to expect, Prs. Obama did a great job delivering the State of the Union address... but in the end, it was all delivery, no substance. It was a study in doublespeak... Robust debate is a good thing... we need less debate and more cooperation. International business is a good thing... no it's a bad thing. Free enterprise is a good thing... free enterprise is a bad thing. We need to freeze spending for 5 years... we need to increase spending. To me, it sounded like a politician trying to be all things to all people, exactly the opposite of what leadership and honor mean. I guess it works though, it was a speech meant to define the presidency of a man whose biggest fear is that someone might demand that he defines his presidency.
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@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
26 Jan 11
To your caption ParaTed ... If President Obama said nothing at all, why was it necessary for not one but TWO republican rebuttals?
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
27 Jan 11
Michelle Bachman, as I understand was asked by some portion of the TEA party movement to do that. Regardless, it is actually quite logical that there might be two responses. There are still a number of GOP members who favor playing kissy kissy with the democrats and keeping life simple for themselves. Those kind of Republicans could never speak for the TEA party. I have not listened to her comments yet, but am looking forward to it.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Jan 11
Don't know, haven't read the rebuttals yet.
• United States
26 Jan 11
Because it is tradition for their to be a rebuttal from the other side. Always happens. As for the second one....Representative Michele Bachmann was just looking for more air time. I dont' really care for her much.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Jan 11
The AP fact-checked the President's speech and they hit many of the same points you did. Good analysis. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-26/fact-check-obama-and-his-imbalanced-ledger.html They cited 6 examples of doublespeak, or rather, factually incorrect statements. Interestingly, they listed only one instance of factually incorrect speech in Ryan's rebuttal. They didn't mention Bachmann at all. I don't know if that is because they didn't find any examples of fiction or because they were simply ignoring her. I tend to think though, that if she'd put out any misleading information they'd have been more than happy to jump all over it.
• United States
26 Jan 11
I agree. Bachmann would have taken top billing had she contradicted herself as often as Obama did (or even at all). I've only seen bits and pieces from all three, but I'm confident that today's headlines would have revolved around Bachmann's "choke" had she screwed the pooch. I'm waiting for Annie, though. She'll have more to say about ole Michele later, I'm sure.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Jan 11
No doubt. As it is, most are saying that Bachmann and Ryan were mostly in synch with their take on the issues. I would say that Ryan was a bit dry, maybe nerves. Bachmann was more fiery, but that is her way and one of the reasons she is the subject of so many delicious mylot discussions.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
27 Jan 11
great observations and I agree. I found the speech very amusing. How he can speak so long and say nothing. Negates each statement with the next. Its a talent...
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
26 Jan 11
i watched his speech and i think he did a very good job to say the least. as far as your critical view of his debate goes, i don't think you took the time to really understand the whole speech and take everything into context.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Jan 11
How much context is there to the contradictions I cited? He said we need to freeze spending, then he talked about spending more. Please explain to me how you can do both?
• United States
26 Jan 11
I was not impress with this speech at all. Not up to usual par at all. I will give this much to Obama...he is a great public speaker..usually he gives great speeches...even if I don't like what he is saying. Not this time. But it was full of double speak. We need to spend spend spend....we need to cut cut cut. This speech went NO WHERE. No real vision. No real plan. And spend a lot of time I thought whining about how the parties don't get along and trying to justify all that money he spent in the last two years. He did not define much at all. Just basically said this is the issue and both sides are going to argue over it. Duh...we know that already. You are right....two years in and he has not yet defined his presidency.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
27 Jan 11
You said it well. A leader has to be going someplace. obama is going in circles and he really has no idea how to improve the current state of the union. Political rhetoric isn't going to improve anything.
• Pamplona, Spain
27 Jan 11
Hiya Parated, If I listen ever to a speech made by our President Rodriguez Zapatero he does the same kind of thing. Small businesses are great then the next minute they are not so great because this that and the other. Each subject he talks about he praises it and then turns it inside out saying not so good after all. He also changes his mind from one Day to the next. They are never consistent. If I was to bother enough I would record what he says one Day and then the next just to prove it to them in my House. Fortunately I don“t have enough time to do that as it would take all Day. But he does do those things. Maybe two People write his speeches but they both have different views?
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
27 Jan 11
I even saw where democrats were saying how flat the message was, and that there wasn't even the normal energy in the room. Part of that may have been the mixing of the parties. The message delivered quite clearly is that obama just cannot grasp the true state of the union. He still thinks that we can spend our way out of this. He only did the double speak thing so it would sound like he was siding with the Republicans. When you think about what our country needs from the President right now, it was really a pathetic showing for obama.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
27 Jan 11
See, this is why I don't watch political speeches. It seems that last night's speech was a rehash of old speeches that were just thrown together.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
26 Jan 11
I haven't listened to it yet. I didn't feel an urgency to hear it last night because I've learned that the man can talk a blue streak yet say nothing at all. I caught onto that early in his campaign. I have heard him say a lot about investing in education and business which I assumed was double speak for spending. I don't think he has any intention of cutting spending. Anyway, thanks for the summary. I'll probably listen to it this afternoon, since I taped it.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Jan 11
hi para ted I gather in trying to please everyone in all sorts of different opinions he ended up not pleasing anyone. Like the man'who jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions Obama ended up not pleasing anyone. Sad. I had hoped maybe he would make his campaign promises came true. guess he may have forgot just what they were and he was going to help our jobless economy. I have not seen' that yet. 2008 to 2011 and our US still has many many people unemployed. my son has finally got two part time jobs and is raking 500 dollars a week but it took several years of searching daily. so many are still ou t of work and wheres all the campaign promises our Pres. made? Does any politician anymore actually keep campaign promises?
@hotsummer (13919)
• Philippines
26 Jan 11
that is what speech is all about. to make things pleasant to the ears but with empty promises or with nothing that can help the people. i don't expect any thing good in speech. i only listen to speech because i am amused listening to speeches with how good they were able to say things though they don't mean it. and how they make things or situation pleasant or not that bad at all, when it is quite the opposite.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
26 Jan 11
Yeah, it was just another typical Obama speech to me. It seems still as if this guy is an incredibly crafty political figure. Keep 'em all talking and arguing amongst themselves about what "is" is, and do what you want in the meantime. I would love to see a president in America be far less political, but I guess that's wishful thinking. From checking out the adoring side of it all, I've seen that Obama's biggest supporters are really inspired and are really excited about government making investments that may help America down the road. This is what turns my stomach more than anything. In my opinion, inspiration should cause American people to get off their butts and invest their money, create, invent - count on yourself to do things for you and your country. Get motivated and get busy! But Obama's inspiration seems to work the opposite way, and that's just incredible for his popularity and chances at reelection. When Obama inspires people, when the "yes we can" comes out of people's mouths, it's all about THE GOVERNMENT doing with the people's support. To date, I see only one way Obama's presidency can be defined: he wants reelection.