Utah plans to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants!

@speakeasy (4171)
United States
March 7, 2011 8:19am CST
That's right! Utah approved a bill Friday (March 4, 2011) to give illegal immigrants 2 year work permits. All the illegal immigrant has to do is show that they are living and working in Utah, pass a criminal background check, and pay a fine up to $2,500. Sounds like amnesty to me; how about you? Even though it is a violation of federal law for an employer to knowingly hire an illegal immigrant, Utah has decided it is above federal laws and will do what it likes. The bill gives the governor until 2013 to request a waiver to the federal law and if the waiver has not been granted by Jan 1 2013, the Utah program will go into effect anyway! Utah is already one of the few states that will issue driver's license to illegal immigrants. So, please tell every illegal immigrant you come into contact with about this program of Utah's. Then, maybe, they will leave your state and go to Utah where they will be welcomed with open arms. Since the program will not officially take effect until the federal government grants them a waiver or Jan 1 2013 - they will have time to get to Utah, get settled, get driver's licenses, and get a job so they can all qualify. When Utah's Mormans have been outnumbered by illegal immigrants; maybe they will change their tune!
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
8 Mar 11
I think it is ridiculous for a state to knowingly break a federal law for whatever reason. If the federal government says that an illegal alien can't do certain things, where does a state get the impression that they should be able to allow them to do those things? Of course, if a person has been working here for 10 years (even if they were illegal aliens) they should be given a chance to become legal, but ONLY if they have been paying taxes to the federal and/or government the entire time. If not, then they should be sent home or made to go through the steps that people who have come here legally have done.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
8 Mar 11
oops! I hadn't thought about that possibility! My bad! Is there a way that they can make it right in order to become legal? I would prefer that people be legal residents before they get certain services. I just wish there were a way for people to gain access to a better life without having to come here illegally.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
11 Mar 11
Not at this time. Right now, the emphasis has to be on stopping new illegals from coming into the country and making it difficult for them to live here illegally; so that, trying to come here is less attractive. Only after the influx has stopped will people be willing to sit down and decide what to do with the illegal immigrants already here. The reason for that is that every time we have given the illegal immigrants that are already here some type of amnesty (a way to become legal) we immediately had a flood of more illegals immediately after hoping that they would be the lucky ones "next time". "I just wish there were a way for people to gain access to a better life without having to come here illegally." There is - all they need to do is make changes in their own country! Life in the US was not always as good as it is now. The early settlers had a very difficult time and barely scratched out an existance - many didn't even survive. But, they and their children kept working to make the country better. These illegal immigrants want to dump their responsibility to their own country and come someplace that will just "give" them a better life. They need to earn it like we and our ancesters did. It won't be easy; but, with the education they have gained here and with all the technological advances that are out there and are available; they have the tools they need to improve their own country. They are just too lazy and too afraid to stand up and put their lives on the line the way our ancesters did (except for the middle east where many of them are doing that right now). India's growth has been fueled by Indians who came to the US legally, got good educations and jobs, and now many of them are taking that knowledge and their earning back to India and they are making changes. But, it is not something that happens overnight! They have to work for it and so do the other countries. They have to educate all of their people and then their people have to invest themselves back into the country to make it a better place to live.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Mar 11
I guess one question then is HOW do we get them to do that? Often, people come here for an education and then they don't want to go back to where they came from. Perhaps we should limit the number of people allowed to come here for education or any other purpose. I don't know what to make of all of this.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Mar 11
It doesn't show that Utah feels it's above the law, it is only showing that it isn't subject to Federal Laws.. which is true. They are exerting their rights as a sovereign state of the USA. I don't know how many illegal aliens will be willing to pay $2500 or volunteer for a background check though.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Mar 11
"If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind us searching your house".
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
11 Mar 11
"If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind us searching your house". That is exactly right! Every time I have applied for a job (whether I was hired or not) the companies ran a criminal back ground check. When I went into the military and needed a security clearance - the government ran far more invasive background checks. When I applied for my insurance and security's licenses - they also ran far more invasive background checks. Background checks are a part of life and if you know there may be a problem; you are better off telling them about it before the background check is even run - if you tell them, then it doesn't look like you were hiding something and you still have a chance to get the position you are applying for simply because you were honest that at some point in your past you made a mistake.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
8 Mar 11
"I don't know how many illegal aliens will be willing to pay $2500 or volunteer for a background check though." - $2,500 is the maximum the state will charge, the actual price may be less. At this point Utah has not said how the exact amount would be obtained. Since this is a criminal background check only, if they have not been caught or have used someone else's identity before, they may have no problems with the background check.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
8 Mar 11
If they get a waver of this then AZ should get a waver for their law.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
8 Mar 11
This policy of states applying to the US government to constantly request waivers is stupid. Lately, any state that disagrees with something done at the federal level is rushing out and asking for a waiver. Are all the states part of the US or not? A waiver should be a temporary thing when a state has a problem meeting a deadline for a federal requirement. Maybe, if the states disagree with what is happening in DC all the time, they really need new representaives and senators who will actually represent the people of the state instead of their respective parties (Democrat and Republican).
• United States
7 Mar 11
I found the link to your information (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/us/07utah.html) so I could forward it to our Georgia Senators. As Georgia has over 430,000 illegal immigrants it would be a good idea to let them know they are welcome in Utah!! The one big problem I see is getting them to pay $2,500!! Most of them send every penny of their illegal gains (earnings) from here in Georgia back to where ever they came from.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
8 Mar 11
Actually, I don't think it would be a problem for them to save up to $2,500 to pay the fine - this is March 2011 and this does not take effect until Jan 2013 (unless the feds do give them a waiver); so, they will have 21 months to save up the money - that is less than $120 per month. They may have to send a little less money back home for a while; but, then they are guaranteed a two year free pass here in the US.
@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
7 Mar 11
Hmmm, more wives for "Sister Act 2" ... perhaps!
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
8 Mar 11
Since the majority of the hispanic illegal immigrants are Catholic; the Mormon majority in Utah might quickly find itself in the minority.