The Reproductive Health Bill is tearing us apart, Lea!

@eileenleyva (27562)
Philippines
April 10, 2011 6:43pm CST
Lea Salonga is being applauded for supporting the Reproductive Health Bill which is disguised under a new name, Responsible Parenthood Bill. Now, I had always been a Lea Salonga fan, and every song that she sings, I clap my hands, except for this one. Lea is very intelligent, talented, broadminded, flexible, and many others... but sigh!, perhaps she has gotten tired and forgot to analyze that if an issue is already creating a conflict, there must be something in it that will tear the people apart. Thus, it couldn't be a good proposition. Rest awhile, Lea.
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@vannyt (343)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
In a country which is very family oriented this Bill has to find its right place. It doesn't matter anymore who's for or against it. We have to look at it in every possible way. We have to admit the greatest contributing problem right now in our economy is our ever growing population. Sad to say the very people(the poor) who are being targeted by this bill doesn't even understand it.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I did not expect an answer like this would come from someone so young. And this is probably what is erroneous in this bill. We do not understand it. It is not just the poor, vannyt, but almost all of us. The proponents of the bill do not even care to clarify the vague provisions. And the Catholic Church had been urging mass goers to pray for the rejection of the bill without clarifying the reasons for rejecting. Such a bill as noisy as this one is all noise...
@vannyt (343)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
I'm with you Ms. Eileen, what is frustrating right now is both sides are trying to get numbers, who has more has a louder voice. I guess that's why we are not understanding each other cause nobody even dared to give us the right and unbiased perspective of this bill. It's crazy we are fighting but no one really knows what they are fighting for, nothing is clear.
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@masang (295)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Population explosion in the Philippines is a myth. We have no problem about population but the problem is congestion and corruption. We have a lot of resources that can sustain our economy but owned by a few because of corruption. Many people leave their provinces just to go to bigger cities. So it seems that we are over populated as projected by the Mass Media. But actually we are only congested. Another reason why it seems that we are over populated is that the number of people in a certain district is being jacked up in order to get a huge amount of budget. Please make a research so that you will know the whole story why do we need to oppose this bill.
@vandana7 (98986)
• India
11 Apr 11
Eileenleyva, accidentally conceiving is one thing, carelessness is another. Out here in India, we are contributing the most to the world's population. Its a silly competition between Hindus and Muslims, to increase their numbers, which can hardly be logical or loving reason to have babies, isn't it? Every child is a competitor to others for food, clothing, shelter, and medicine. What is the point of crying about inflation when we are not stopping at creating hunger and thirst? We acan always adopt instead of bringing in another mouth to feed. We havent got that much of fertile or habitable land to feed and house so many! Ok here is a personal view - I had a paternal aunt who was married to a gambler who didnt work for a single day in his life, would disappear for months at a time with all her jewelry. Yet, she felt it was her duty to give him five children, and fulfil his wish for a girl child! I'd say that is an excuse...likewise, my paternal uncle (father's bro) was a drunkard. His wife too brought into world four issues even though her husband never earned a single cent. Both ladies never worked a single day even though they had so much of responsibility on their shoulders. Now, look at our fate, we the responsible ones gave these families our hard earned monies only to be physically beaten for more monies by the next generation..and fear what will happen in our old age..I think that is where responsible parenthood makes sense, does it not? Having children is fine... as long as they are not left to be fed like street dogs and develop like them.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
vandana, I was surprised by the reason why you have so many children. I thought that it was simply culture and tradition that a family must have more children. I gather that this is now a gargantuan societal problem. I have to give this a lot of thought but don't you think that if the contraceptives is imposed, it will only add up to more problems instead of a solution?
@vandana7 (98986)
• India
12 Apr 11
Eileenleyva - that is true... Hindutva people have been asking Hindus to increase their numbers as the ratio of Muslims in the country to Hindus has increased quite a bit since independence. Hindus had some how come to the two children per family norm, but for this constant highlighting by hindutva people that Muslims have more wives, and more children.:) It is crazy thing... nobody is concerned they would fight amongst themselves for limited jobs and resources..all they are concerned is to increase their followers, vote banks, and reinforcing their faith... sickening if you ask me. I am also against contraceptives being forced. But out here, it is ignorance that is ruling the roost. Muslims have increased in numbers not because they were scheming or desperate to do so, but because they were financially backward, and culturally blocked. So we need to educate them. Secondly give them access to the contraceptives. What happens is women may with common sense accept that another child is undesirable, but cannot go against men who are already wrapped up in this Hindutva and Moslem number game. Moreover, they would feel shy to walk up to medical stores to ask for such contraceptives. So there has to be another way to distribute safe contraceptives such that women get them easily and men cannot do a thing about it. :)
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@vandana7 (98986)
• India
12 Apr 11
By the way, I am a Hindu. :)
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
10 Apr 11
i would love to have a child once more but my wife has been traumatized by pregnancy. she had a lot of miscarriage before we hit the jackpot. so she is taking pills right now for she dont like to get pregnant. every one of us has their own reason why we take or do family planning. i guess for me that is more on a Responsible Parenthood. as long as parents do what a responsible parent should be then he or she is a responsible parent not just because they are supporting the bill. the church is becoming over with this that they need a celebrity to support on what they fight for... very politics.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
bird, a friend of mine had two girls, a difficult time caring for them, and so she resorted to pills. Later, she realized that her body was shrinking, and the verve she once had deteriorated. She stopped the pills and slowly, she regained her form. Two years after, she got pregnant and cried so hard. I told her not to cry because everything will surely be fine. When she had an ultra sound, she discovered she was carrying a baby boy. And then she got excited. The family, somehow, became complete. Then a couple of years again, her husband was stricken with the deadly colon cancer. He passed away soon enough. But my friend was so happy to think that the son, grown up now, does remind her of his father.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
Patricia, just by the whatever name it will be given is already a dire foreboding.
• United States
12 Apr 11
...what does all that have to do with forcing taxpay ers to support a practice they find at best inhumanely and cruelly barbaric? If a mother's life is in danger due to pregnancy insurance will cover it. If two people can't afford an abortion on their own they shouldn't conceive.
@tigeraunt (6326)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
hi eileen, i too, like lea, supports the responsible parenthood bill. for parents who prefer the natural way, i say go. for parent like me who has medical reasons why another baby is going to be a threat to life, would support the first one. for wives who do not have a regular menstruation cycle, they would support the first. for wives who want to space their child the way they want to, can use the first. for parents who can support only one or two children due to unemployment, hey can use the first. i dont see why the catholics (well i am one) think it is abortion when there is no fetus to think of using the RPB. i would say it is a sin, when parents keep having children and they could not fed them, give them shelter and clothing, and they are left on the streets to live. that is irresponsibility on their part. but what can they do? they only know how to make children, they dont know how to earn to make decent living. this is the sin. have a nice day. ann
@tigeraunt (6326)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
hi eileen, your friend eden chose that she believed was the best thing to do. thats what i am saying, there was the baby already. you are not supposed to think of anything that will destroy her. for me, a mom, it will be difficult to undergo medication when i know the baby will be killed. that alone is what i call abortion. a person who is terminally ill and who chooses not to go on medication because of fear that a new life will be destroyed, is her choice. does it have anything to do with the bill? yes the bill has to become a law first. have a nice day. ann
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
For a bill to become a law, it must be for everyone. That is how I understand it. But let me tell you the story of my high school classmate called Eden. She was on the family way when she found out she has cancer. To save her, she must undergo chemo drastically, but that would be fatal to the baby. She went with the pregnancy and delivered her baby on a May day. She passed away that December, all happy that her child was safe. She made me godmother to her little girl without even telling me that she was fatally ill.
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
Exactly!
@masang (295)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
The Reproductive Health Bill is deceptive and anti family. I really oppose about this bill because it promotes promiscuity not along among married people but also to those who are not yet married. It will also lead to lack of self-control and self-discipline. I am married and i'm using natural family planning which is very safe and has no side effects. I have 2 kids. The eldest is 15 yrs old and the youngest is 8 yrs. old. It's a matter of discipline. As a human being we have the power to control our lust. As the Bible said: The fruits of the spirit is self-control, patience etc. So if we are guided by the spirit then we can have self-discipline. Likewise, artificial birth control can cause cancer. Please log on to many cites about the side effects of artificial birth control like pills etc. Artificial birth control is also a big business. Imagine the government will pay billions for this. In fact the problem is not the population but corruption. Lastly, the Reproductive Health Bill is not only about morality but there are scientific explanation why it should be opposed.
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
We can't blame her she's as an american skin deep as any wanna be there is, She lived it through that american dream of hers, I think she's not anymore that Maria clara type a kind of, hmmm no wonder she defies anything, well for us traditional filipino's it is still, would be fitting to opposed it and determine it's way ward cost, the price of democracy is evident it's not all pro church or pro God no wonder the "prayle" did bot taught us the value of fredom and self liberty they guide us to be focus of who is lecturing in the pulpit. The RH bill is I dont' know? we are a country of citizens with alienated rights, a separation of the church and state.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
Lea needs to mingle with the poor. The patriotism is in her. But she is sheltered within the walls of the haves...
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
Did she? Then let us give her time to know that the more terrible problem is the polarization of the rich and the poor, the deterioration of values and morals, lack of quality education, and humility...
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
She have too, immersed with people in Baseco compound, Bagong Silang in Tondo or here in Mindanao in ligwasan Marsh or Camp Bushra in the MILF rebel stronghold in Lanao, there she will realized that not all she sees in her brick wall is justifiable.
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• Philippines
11 Apr 11
I have seen and read the verbatim of the RH bill (House Bill 96). IN MY OWN OPINION, actually, if it is read in its entirety, the motive is good, and will somehow be beneficial to women. HOWEVER, the bill needs certain provisions to be clarified, specified, and polished since some are very general or vague. I THINK what divides this nation is the misinformation about the bill and its implications. TO MY MIND, some guys are too over reacting.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
When a provision is vague, right away, it is questionable.
• Philippines
11 Apr 11
i think you are correct mspatricia. If only there was wide information and explanation of the bill then everybody can choose wether to support it or not and maybe we can vote. we dont have the same opinion but if ever we are laid with the specific i think we can all agree on the RH bill.