What are the Ten Most Segregated Cities in the USA?

@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
April 12, 2011 12:41am CST
Do you suddenly hear banjos playing? Perhaps the theme song from Deliverance? What do you think of when you think 'SEGREGATION'...? Rednecks, rifles in the back of pick up trucks. Blood hounds on the porch? The south has been ridiculed for it's racist ways and its customs used to portray racism for many years. Is it true? I recently was subjected to (by my own choosing) a very discriminatory video on YouTube. I chose to watch it, just because I'm always telling everyone to look at both sides, so I have to at least try and live up to that advice. On this video they were attempting to discredit the Tea Party by showing all the 'racists' signs. I had to laugh at some...'God Bless Glenn Beck' and the one of Obama as the Joker. I mean, what's racist about Obama as the Joker? There were a few that I wouldn't have carried like the one showing him as Hitler, But I also didn't like the Liberals in Congress calling Bush that either. So, I thought...we're even on that one. btw...the theme song for this video making the tea party out to be racist was a banjo tune. I thought, how discriminatory is that? btw...the ONE sign that was overtly racist, that guy was ejected from the rally by those who'd organized it. All this got me thinking of the names that are being used in the political world today from both sides. You know, Nazi, extremist, nutcase, I won't even go into what Sarah Palin has had to endure. So, I looked up the ten most 'racist' cities in America and got a list of segregated cities. Guess what? Seems the ten most segregated cities are mainly in the NORTH. Only two cities in the SOUTH are on the list, and one (ST.Louis) is technically north of the Mason Dixon. This may or may not surprise you, but with the liberals calling the conservatives racist and comparing them to rednecks and all, I just kinda had to speak up for all the rednecks. Here's the site: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/americas-10-most-segregated-cities_n_845092.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl12|sec1_lnk3|54790#s261055&title=4_Newark_New Here's the list if you'd rather not go to the HuffPost 10. Nassau Suffolk, New York searched and couldn't find info, who is the Mayor? 9. St. Louis, Missouri - Democrat for Mayor since 1949 8. Cleveland, Ohio - Democrat for Mayor 7. Miami, Florida - NEVER had a Republican for Mayor 6. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Democrat for Mayor since 1952 5. Chicago, Illinois - Democrat for Mayor, our dear friend Mr. Immanuel, Daley before that. 4. Newark, New Jersey - Democrat for Mayor since 1907 3. New York, NY - Mayor Independent (left Rep. party) Dems before him back to 1934 2. Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Democrat for Mayor since 1908 1. Detroit, Michigan - Democrat for Mayor Poorest cities all have Democrats for Mayors and some of them are the most segregated too. These are among the poorest and also on the most segregated list. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=36043 Cleveland, Miami, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Newark. I find it intersting that the poorest cities are run by Democrats, but that is another discussion. Now I am not just going to bash the 'northern liberals'. Lets look at the origins of the Jim Crow laws that segregated the south before the civil rights era...shall we? Cause these were by far the most racist laws our country has had. After Reconstruction, in the 1870's white DEMOCRATS returned to power in the south. They began legislating segregation immediately. Previously, up until the Democrats gained power again, many blacks were being elected to public office under the Reconstruction era which was led by the, you guessed it REPUBLICANS. Even to Congress. Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress#In_Reconstruction_era Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, introduced segregation back into the workplace in Washington DC even though previous to his administration there was integration. I've lived in the south and I've lived in the north. I've seen racism more, in the north than anywhere else I've lived. When I visited Mississippi I was entertained in the homes of blacks along with several other whites. It was a pleasant and friendly gathering. I've lived in the inner city as well, and was afraid for my life. So, can all this prove anything, really? NO. But if you were to ONLY use these statistics, what would you think? So were you surprised by any of this?
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@jb78000 (15139)
12 Apr 11
i'd ask the obvious question - did the democrats make these towns poor and segregated or did they vote democrat because they were poor and segregated? i know you want to argue that democrats are more racist than republicans but you maybe need to work on your logic.
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@jb78000 (15139)
12 Apr 11
oh and to answer your question, well no it isn't surprising. the most affluent areas of britain vote tory, and the poor areas vote labour, generally. nobody, not even the tory party, has ever tried to argue that places with tory mps are affluent because they have tory mps. the already well off do better under a conservative government. that is it.
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@jb78000 (15139)
12 Apr 11
yes but your argument that democrats are more racist doesn't work at all - definitely not based on that logic. anyway although i think your looking at the 'other side' is commendable i very much doubt that looking at dubious youtube videos or dodgy blogs is the best way to get sensible arguments for anything. i don't look at youtube gumph but if i looked at say, the daily mail or the edl website for arguments against immigration in the uk i'd get the impression that the right were all a bunch of hysterical idiots and the only arguments they had were thinly or not veiled racism. or to put it into a us context, if annie just looked at wnd or something equally ridiculous to get "your" side of the story she might not get a realistic impression. she certainly wouldn't see any valid arguments, and very often both sides have them once you filter out the nuts.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
jb, while all that I posted is true, I am well aware that there are other mitigating circumstances to segregation and racism. I might add, one website I visited even mentioned that sometimes, blacks are the reason for segregation....seems some of them don't care for living next to white folks. I realize dear bunny friend, that racism exists in the HEART of man and is not limited to one color or creed. There are some racist Republicans and some racist Democrats. But our dear liberal friends like to go around calling conservatives racist, painting us with a wide brush...so I did this dicsussion to put the facts of their history out there. I just wanted to make some democrats mad I guess. I got perturbed at being called a racist and wanted to remind them of some hard cold facts. If you'll notice, some of those cities have had democrats running them for over a hundred years didn't you. I won't go into all the reasons the entitlement game keeps people poor or causes blacks and whites to be suspicious of each other. Maybe that's my next discussion?
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• United States
12 Apr 11
I live in Cleveland, Ohio...I wouldn't think it's that segregated, nor the poorest. It has its struggles and issues as does nearly ever other city...and while its not the "All-American City" it once was prior to the busing issues started back in the 1980's, it is on the come-back. Three World-Class Casinos in downtown Cleveland will open soon, one of them located inside the Landmark Terminal Tower, now called Tower City. We have the World Renown Science Center, the Rock-N-Roll Hall Of Fame...we no longer have that scum bag LeBron James and now the city smells better. I will admit our Police Force needs serious improvement though, as does the school system.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
I've never been there. I'm sorry that your city was on the list. My discussion is basically getting frustration off my chest so to speak. I'm tired of the liberals saying the conservatives are racist all the time. So, I had to remind them of a few things. I'm sure there are bunches of great people in these cities listed who wouldn't have a racist thought in the head. Like I said to the blue bunny...racism comes from the HEART of man. Good in bad in both parties...but history is clear. Our dear friends the democrats have dubious beginnings. I doubt they care now, and will most likely say they've left racism in the past. But I've read a few black conservative bloggers who feel otherwise. http://theblacksphere.net/affirmative-action-for-obama/ I notice that BUSINESS is booming in Cleveland...and the public services you mentioned as needing improvment....those are normally under the control of the city aren't they? just saying....
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
I will also add that a quick look at some Black Republicans thoughts on how Affirmative Action and the entitlement mentality and how they contribute to the tensions between the races, can be an eye opener. I've also read from Black conservatives that they felt demeaned by the 'superior' attitude of white liberals towards their people. Knowing that also contributed to my desire to post this dicussion.
• United States
12 Apr 11
I'm sorry, Debra if I gave the wrong impression...I wasn't saying anything negative about your discussion an views...I was only trying to provide some inside information, from someone who lives in the reported top 10 cities. Yes , business is picking up, and our state officials are doing their part to keep big businesses here..for example they made recent deals with the Diebold Corporation and American Greetings Corp to stay in Ohio...as I understand they will make similar deals with corporations and conglomerates to stay in Ohio, and attract others here also. Ironically...I strongly believe the Casinos are a pivotal key to the infrastructure to Clevelands' come-back. The determined locations to three of the Casinos are geographically located in the heart of Downtown Cleveland, with in walking distance to the Rock Hall of Fame, the Science Center, The Cavs, Indians and Browns..Playhouse Square(which Charlie Sheen was just here) and several other World-renowned Playhouse venues...plus Lake Erie with boating, fishing, sailing...The House of Blues will be two blocks from two of the Casinos... I'm not a gambler but I have been a huge proponent of getting the Casinos because I see what it can do for the city I love so much. I know I've gotten off track a little here, but while elected officials can be a negative, Cleveland's Democratic Mayor was a major player in getting the Casinos in Cleveland. While the last several Mayors have been democrat, I believe that's a direct result of the last two republican City Mayors sent this city into the abyss and left such a deep negative impact that it will take several generations removed to ever consider another republican mayor. I will admit that I am an Independent....I don't care what party is in Office...just do the job with the voting constituents..the People's best interest in every decision and every action. The problem with putting someone in any governmental office is we the People are presented with officials and are told to choose from the LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS. Personally, I would like MORE choices in which to choose.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Wallbuilders Live is an organaization that tells the true stories of Almerican history, stuff you'll never see in a history book or hear in the MSM. According to them, the Democratic Party has always resisted racial equality from very beginning of their party. Here is the link to the article on the history of the democrats' vs. the republicans' positions on racial equality: http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/misc/CivilRightsPlatforms.pdfans positions on racial equality Also see: http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=88
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Thank you! I will favorite it...I always appreciate sharing links!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Interesting to say the least. I quickly read an article about a Reconstruction era Republican govenor who was impeached by the Democrats for sending militia troops in against the Klan, who were lynching blacks in his state. To be fair, the article also presents documents that show said govenor used mercenary troops from out of state and not the states militia to get the job done, which was the 'legal' excuse to impeach him. Yes, very enlightening website, I highly recommend it to all. History is a very important subject, it is the 'WHY we do things that we do' subject everyone needs to be aware of.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Republicans do not do what they do because they are racist nor do Democrats. You find that poorer areas tend to be Democratic because the Democrats tend to vote for social issues and Republicans do not...Is that racism or is this looking out for the majority? If the Government tries to support more and more people, you will find that even more people decide that they need to be supported. That is what is happening now. And the Government is going broke. Californian is an awesome example of this idiocy. I want a Government that looks out for the majority and stays out of the States business. I guess by your definition I am a racist. So, I am a dirty Racist Jew. Now I know my place...I like it....
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Have you seen this one? Black Lawmakers Sue to Dissolve Cities That Are Too White http://patriotupdate.com/4965/black-lawmakers-sue-to-dissolve-cities-that-are-too-white How absurd. People live where they want to live. I do find it interesting that both the poorest and the most in debt cities are run by Democrats.
• United States
13 Apr 11
I understand the rant, Debra. People who call me racist have no idea what I am or am not. They say that strictly because they've seen that I'm a white conservative. So what? When I went to my 40th high school class reunion, it bugged me that the blacks were on one side of the meet and greet and the whites on the other side. When I approached the blacks and reminded them who I was, one guy said, "I knew that was you. You did the same thing in high school." "What?" I asked. "Tried to get blacks and whites to mingle. When it worked, it was usually your doing." How cool is that? I had complete forgotten that I did that, but it seems natural to me. Why are we still separated? Later in the evening, I noticed that there were now 2 groups of blacks not mingling with each other. And one of them was more apt to be laughing with our white classmates. You know the difference? One group was Obama fans and the other was not. Guess which group was more friendly to the white classmates.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
13 Apr 11
I lived in Gary IN. I know for a fact that blacks can be and often are, racist. They say, you can't be racist if you're not empowered in the political world. That is just wrong. For instance, the blacks in Gary are the majority. They run the city, they own the businesses and they own the majority of the real estate. THEY have the power in numbers, they have the political power there. I felt VERY intimindated in that city because every time my family was out of our home, we were either threatened outright or made to feel unwanted. When I decided to return to school, I put my kids in the public schools. The high school principal said to me, you really DON'T want to put your (his words) lily white boys in this school, they won't last a week. THAT IS RACISM. He had the power and he used it to intimidate me because of my color. I was dating a black man at the time, he went to the principal and told him off. But I didn't put my boys in that school. I lived in a poor neighborhood, I worked in that neighborhood and I made friends in that neighborhood, not all of the blacks were racist towards me or my kids, the ones who were...admitted it to me often. They hated me because I was white. Did I let it make me hate in return, almost. I have to admit when my house was the target of a drive by shooting...and I was at work and could't protect my eight year old daughter who hid under the bed, it was tempting. But I rose above it and focused on the good people who befriended me and loved my family, even though we were white. And now I RESENT being called racist or to see the word used indiscriminantely. It is a serious word with hate and murder behind it...and it shouldn't be used lightly! My rant is over. Sorry I used your response to put it in. You are very correct, it's absurd. And if we care about the future of our children and our grandchildren we better find a way to get past it! But we have to quit using the word without remembering what it really means.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
14 Apr 11
I owe my life to a black girl in seventh grade. I dated a black man when I first separated from my kids dad. I worked with and socialized with some very smart and very kind black women in the first nursing home I ever worked in. I lived and socialized in the black community for four years. I keep in touch with several good friends from there. I didn't let the racism of the few blacks who hated me, make me hate. I also know in depth how many blacks feel about those 'high and mighty' whites who want to save them...and THATS how they feel they detest that superior attitude. I read black conservative blogs and they really dislike the condesending attitude of liberals who throw around the word racist and can't fathom blacks and whites agreeing on politics or social issues as conservatives. Shelby Steele who wrote the book I keep harping about, labels it white guilt...one white guy actually said to him...'after all we did for you people'. THAT is the attitude I can't stand. the superior moral attitude of some who think they don't have a racist bone in their body who deep down inside are feeling real smug about their "lack" of racism, when what they really think is blacks can't defend themselves or succeed without them. It makes me angry. And this discussion was written to the liberals who think that way. THEY'RE PEOPLE, NOT A COMMODITY TO USE AND DISCARD AS WHIM after the election is over.
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@celticeagle (159572)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Apr 11
No, I am not surprised. I live in a state that is famous for the white sumpremist camp in its panhandle. I was surprised that Alabama wasn't on the list since it was where alot of racist stuff went down. I have never lived in a big city although I live in a capitol city. We are pretty behind here.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Did you know who started the first KKK? Nathan Bedford Forrest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan Nathan Bedford Forrest stated that the Klan's primary opposition was to the Loyal Leagues, Republican state governments, people like Tennessee governor Brownlow and other carpetbaggers and scalawags. He argued that many southerners believed that blacks were voting for the Republican Party because they were being hoodwinked by the Loyal Leagues.
• United States
12 Apr 11
Now, the KKK thing surprises me. Democrats were the ones who didn't want civil rights laws past. Republicans started trying to get civil rights laws passed in the 1800s.
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@celticeagle (159572)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Apr 11
The KKK is nasty business.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 11
I'm not surprised. I've found that people often hate what they most despise in themselves and scream the loudest about traits that they secretly hide. I'm not saying either party is racist but look at who regularly accuses people of racism then look at which party controls the most segregated cities.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Apr 11
That thought occured to me too.