Spanking kids, for their own good?

Netherlands
June 21, 2011 6:33pm CST
Here is the question do you spank your kids? I came to this idea at my vacation. Our neighbours had a 10 month old baby. The baby took the sunglasses of her mothers'face and the mother spanked (slap on the hand) the baby and told her: 'No stop, you may not do that!'. I was really discussed about this. First of all I think this kid was just too young to understand a. what she may and may not do and b. what the slap meant. Do you slap your children? In what situation would you do this? Do you think this works? And please explain how. Do you think slapping has an age-limit, mean above a certain age kids may be slapped? Me, I don't slap my kids. I was beaten by my own parents and do not want the same for my kids. The beating was real beating with shoes etcetera. When does the slapping stop and the beating begin?
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
22 Jun 11
Hi ieniemienie, I personally am totally against spanking or slapping as a disciplinary measure.I feel that one only makes children feel insecure and also fearful. It also makes them think that violence against others is justified.But having said that we are all human and tend to lose our tempers and resort to spanking at times since that seems to be the best and the most effective solution at that point of time. If we make amends and make the child realise that what we did was not something that we are proud of or that it was done as a desperate measure I guess it may not be too bad.It also makes us analyse our own actions and be careful in the future and deal with children in a different and more healthy manner...
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
22 Jun 11
I guess you have a point there ! But where does one draw the line? I have seen some parents resort to spanking and slapping children for every little thing so much so that even children begin to feel that it is alright to slap, beat or use physical abuse when they lose their temper...I have had such experience with my students who justify their action quoting their parents example...
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• United States
22 Jun 11
Oh I completely understand that there needs to be a line that is drawn. In fact, that is really my whole point. There need to be more serious consequences for certain actions, because these actions are potentially very dangerous, which is why a single smack on the hand when reaching for a hot item would be more effective than a time-out, especially when the single smack is reserved for only potentially dangerous actions. If there is no distinction (the same consequence for every action), then that defeats the whole thing, but that is just my opinion.
• United States
22 Jun 11
What happens when the child puts his or her own health and safety at risk? Is a "time-out" really enough to make a child, especially a young one, understand that what they did was seriously harmful to them? I know that we talk to them about their actions once they are done with time-out, but young children really do not understand how dangerous and serious certain actions can be, especially when you are trying to explain with just words. Wouldn't a quick smack on the hand when they try reaching for a hot tray out of the oven work better, especially when time-outs are used for other instances, because it might convey to them that this is more serious than the other things that they are put into time-out for?
@Angelee_27 (3460)
• United States
21 Jun 11
Hi ieniemienie, What a confusing name! LOL I do not have kids yet, however... if/when I do, I will NOT spank/slap them. There are much better ways to discipline children in my opinion. Many people say they spank their children because time-out simply doesn't work. However, I believe that is just an excuse. Time-outs do work if done properly, and consistently! So does taking away toys, cell phones, games, etc...
• Netherlands
22 Jun 11
I agree, however sometimes it is really hard to control your own temper. When you are tired, and aggitated you sometimes feel the need to do some slapping, when your kids don't listen. How do you prevent yourself from slapping and stay calm and be reasonable and just take away their toys?
• United States
22 Jun 11
Every child is not the same, and time-outs do not always work, even if they are done "properly and consistently". That does not mean that there are not other alternatives that parents can try, though. There are more than just two options (hitting or time-out) when disciplining a child, and many times there is no "one answer" but a variety of methods that will work depending upon the situation.
• United States
22 Jun 11
@ieniemienie, Yes, being tired and aggravated can make you want to slap your kids when they are misbehaving. But that is NO EXCUSE to do it. You must have self-control and learn how to calm yourself. You cannot blame your kids for you not having self-control. When your kids are misbehaving, you tell them "No, it is NOT okay to do that!". If they continue, then you give them a warning. "If you continue misbehaving, you will be put in time-out/naughty corner." Then, if they still continue to misbehave... you pull them to time-out and sit them down. If they get up, put them back and say "You have to sit in time-out for ____ because you were misbehaving". If they get up any time after that... put them back and do not say anything to them at all. Eventually, they will stay until their time is up. Then you will be able to go over and explain why they were placed in time-out, ask for an apology, hug and kisses, etc... Eventually, they will get to where they will stay in time-out with any hassle. But you have to be consistent first, and let them know you are not messing around anymore. @purple, I agree. I am just sick and tired of parents saying that time-outs do not work, so they have to spank their children. They say the time-outs do not work because the child doesn't magically start behaving like an angel all the time. Kids are kids, and are not going to completely change with a time-out. They are still going to misbehave at times... that is when you sit them in time-out again! Also, they complain that they won't stay in time-out once put in it, so they just give up... and o back to spanking. If you read above, I have clearly explained how time-out can be done properly... and it does work that way, most of the time. There are children that time-outs just do not work for. However, it is best to decide that after trying the technique above. In these cases, you can use a different form of discipline. There are actually many ways to discipline a child, and I believe you should properly try all of them before you choose to hit your child. In some cases, a child may need a combination of different forms of discipline. That is fine. You may have to see a family, or child counselor to help... as they can give good advice.
@slothgurl (569)
• Enumclaw, Washington
22 Jun 11
What worked for us, when my son was small, was a very firm sounding "NO!" If I needed more emphasis than that, I would make a loud clap, with my hands, at the same time. The shock value of the clap and the NO, usually startled him enough to stop whatever he was doing, so I never needed to slap. You also have to make sure No means No ALL THE TIME. (for instance)-That same mother probably would slap the baby for taking the glasses one time, but maybe in line at the grocery store she would give the glasses to the baby to occupy her while mom is doing business. So poor baby has mixed messages! So whatever discipline someone uses, the most important thing is consistancy.
• Netherlands
22 Jun 11
I also use the NO and clapping. My youngest is almost one. When I do this he just looks at me and start smiling and laughing. The oldest is two he is shook up when I do this but what really helps is treatening with the fact that if he does not stop misbehaving, he has to sit in his chair. Which means he cannot play. This works so far the best.
@jpso138 (7851)
• Philippines
22 Jun 11
When I was a child, I had my share of spanking. But I perfectly understand that it was for my good and to discipline me. For me, it was more of good rather than bad. Besides, it was never meant to hurt me in any way. There was no slapping. Now, I have a family of my own and have a 7 year old child. I have not spank him in any way to hurt him. Its is more of just talk and and sort of certain punishment, like to television for while, or no Playstation, if my child commits mistakes. In way a simple talk will do the trick. I do not agree on beating anyone to instill discipline, may it be a child or an adult...
• Netherlands
22 Jun 11
I agree, don't think violence is ever the solution. However when our parents were young slapping was the most normal way of discipline, maybe because the kids then had no playstation to take away?
@jimmytai (204)
• Malaysia
22 Jun 11
My parents also had slap me when i'm child, and i also had slap a child before. For me, we should not slap child below that 6 age, after they enter school, they are better able to understand the idea of consequences and that they can choose good or bad behavior. And hurt they just can help control the child in short period or during you are there only. Maybe they just good attitude when see you here because worry you hurt them again. We can use other method to control them. Example: Control early As soon as your child throws the first temper tantrum, begin to talk about different situations and the emotions they evoke. Say things like, "It's OK to be angry when your tower falls, but throwing blocks is not nice. Try again." Use a firm voice but avoid yelling. By learning self-control, kids can make appropriate decisions and respond to stressful situation in ways that can yield positive outcomes. For example, if you say that you're not serving ice cream until after dinner,your child may cry, plead,or even scream in the hopes that you will give in. But with self-control, your child can understand that a temper tantrum means you'll take away the ice cream for good and that it's wiser to wait patiently.
• Netherlands
22 Jun 11
Did you learn something when your parents hit you? Did you never misbehave after that? The self control part is true but I gues this should start with the parents! The should have self control. Self control in the sense, that they can control their frustrations and control the need to hit their child. There are better ways!
@jimmytai (204)
• Malaysia
22 Jun 11
No, and that time i still cant understand. This action made me hate my father. i think if parent is always hit the child,this would make the children may don't like them and consider their parents not like them.
• United States
22 Jun 11
I was a victim of child abuse myself, and I vowed to never beat my children. But as purplealabaster has said, when a child is about to hurt himself, how to intervene. My 2 yr old has actually opened the oven, thank god it wasn't on, and grabbed at the pan I keep in it(its too big to fit in my cabinets). I told him no, and that it was not for him to touch, but he kept going back 4 or 5 times until I popped him on his butt. It wasn't hard enough to hurt, just scared him and he hasn't touched it since. The same thing with the plastic plug protector, he learned that one is loose and he can pull it out, but after probably 15 times of seeing him pull at it(and I tried putting tape over it too) I popped him and he doesn't touch it anymore. The only times I pop him is when he can hurt himself. Other than that I use the time out method and it works fine. But I think 10 months is way too young. The baby is just curious about everything.
• Netherlands
23 Jun 11
Silvervixen, your story makes sense to me. Still I will not try it but I can see your point of view. If it is just this popping then I see no real harm in it. But by the time you can explain things are harmfull would you still pop them?
• United States
23 Jun 11
Absolutely not. If he can understand what he's doing will hurt him it makes no sense to do so. I've only done it 4 times altogether, (by our neighbors dog who growls at everything and when he kept trying to touch the hot clothes iron) and I know it didn't hurt him, just scared him to know there are some things we don't touch. But all this was months ago and I haven't really had to tell him no more than once or twice. He is in the stage where he can't communicate well so he whines a lot. But I pick him up and take him to his bed and tell him that when he stops whining and can show mommy what he wants, he can get out. It takes a few minutes sometimes, but it works like a charm.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Jun 11
ieniemienie uh minni mo? lol anyway I hate spanking . I used other methods to teach my children and my son grew up to be a fine man. we lost our little daughter when she was eight.How on earth can a ten month old baby fathom why mom slapped its hand? that is absurd. I had time outs and stand in the corner, when they were older, privileges were taken away. I had very little problems with bad behavior from my children. some parents I knew spanked all the time and their kids werelittle heathens. it made them worse not better. beating a child only teaches it one thing, the strong always rule. and thats not what one shold be teaching a child at all.to me beatings are just child abuse and if i see someone doing that I call the police. that is so wrong.You do not abuse a child to teach him or her something, you show them right from wrong not by hitting slapping or beating.you talk you tell them whats right and what is not.
• United States
22 Jun 11
I am going to go against what everybody else has said here, because I think that there are more than two options. I do use time-out. I also will smack (not spank or beat but a single not very forceful smack) when it is something serious that will hurt or seriously harm my child. I think that they respond better to this, because it only happens when they are putting themselves in danger, and their brain recognizes this as different and they think more about it ... or at least that has been my experience. Of course, I also explain why what they did (or rather tried to do) was harmful, so they still get the benefit of the words with the action. I will also try to "re-direct" anger or tantrums rather than just putting them in time-out. Sitting when you are angry and full of energy does not really release the energy but rather it bottles it up more, and eventually the energy has to be released and more often than not it will just "explode". If you re-direct by giving them positive ways to express themselves while releasing their energy, then it seems to work a lot better. We have "games" that we play, such as "stomp around the house" when we are frustrated. It is not a tantrum with kicking and screaming but a focused play and form of expression. We can be an elephant and stomp or a lion and roar or whatever animal we want to be that will help to release the energy in a positive manner.
• India
22 Jun 11
i think what you invoked here is a good topic , and with majority of the people saying that hitting kids is not good, the point is no parent wants to hit their kids, mayb its a problem related with how that parent was brought up , maybe he dint really have a good upbringing and so will try and reflect his parents ways on his own children
@naija4real (1291)
22 Jun 11
I am still single and I am currently searching for a wife. Therefore, I am not married at the moment and as a result do not have a kid of my own. However, I live in a society in which spanking is part of the culture of the Nigerian people ( african alike ) In Nigeria, it is a common culture for school teachers and parents at home to spank any child or children that misbehave. Our society is not like that of the western world such as USA,Germany, UK, Australia, Italy, etc in which spanking of a child could attract some reaction and even sanction from the law enforcement agency. I was made to know that in america if a teach spank a pupils or student that teacher could be arrested and prosecuted according to american law. But in Nigeria, it is a different ball games. So spanking is a common culture and if I happen to have children in the nearest future and they commit any crime or they are disobedient when I give them instruction, I will have object to spanking them. It is our culture.
@tink91879 (742)
• United States
22 Jun 11
Kids are smarter than we give them credit for. My kids are now 8 and 5 and a spanking is rare. I dont believe in spanking for the first punishment and not for all punishments. I have slapped mine on the hands before. I wear glasses and the first couple times they grab them I tell them NO! in a stern voice. If they keep doing it I have slapped them on the hand and told them NO!. They stopped. Kids need to know what their limits are and they do their best to find them. Lets them feel secure in their environment knowing what they can and cant do and they will always do stuff to get in trouble. I have done time out, taking toys away, tv, games, spanking is rare and I feel should only be done as a last option. I dont believe in using a belt or spoon or anything to hit a child, but your own hand. Also one swat is good enough. I feel some ppl use spanking as a way to take their anger out on their child and thats not the reason, its to disipline and teach. So it depends on the parent and I think when their crawing and getting into things is definatly when to start disipline. They have to learn. You dont want them to hurt themselves because you thought they couldnt understand? You can babyproof all you want they will always find something you missed.
• Portugal
22 Jun 11
i think that the only thing that you should to a kid is give them a sleight slap on the but when they are at least 2 years old, and they already understand what is wrong and what is not. more than that its not acceptable. the people that say that rasing kids without ever "touching" them is possible, are a bit oblivious. latter on, those kids cry and make lots of noise when they want that their parents buy something. and they, with shame, and because they are "such good parents" they dont give them a slap, and they end up to buy everything they want.
• United States
22 Jun 11
Spanking seems to be an acceptable word for hitting. Would you raise your hand to hit your neighbor's kids? If the answer is NO then I wouldn't lay a hand on my own children. If you hit your neighbor the same way you hit your kids you might just vet bit back, and rightly so. Hitting kids is just bullying. It is a big person hitting a little person. So if you value your kid at least as much as you value your neighbor you won't hit your kids. Parents that STILL assault their kids with their hands need parenting classes. You don't want to be hit. Well neither does you'd child. It's very demeaning. There are better ways to parent if they care to learn. When I say you it is generic. Not you.