?!!!!secret shopper scam alert!!!

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
July 14, 2011 12:27pm CST
I just received my first assignment as a Secret Shopper from Jamie Johnson. I received two money orders by FedEX, for $900 each. I was to take the money orders, cash them, take the cash to my local Western Union and wire the money (minus my pay and gas allowance) to a person named in the instructions. 5 minutes ago · Privacy: · Like · Ted Bingham Then I was to write a report, answering some questions and making comments about the quality of service, neighborhood of the Western Union, and if I felt safe in the location. I brought it to my bank (which happened to be the same bank corporation that appeared on the money orders), but instead of dutifully asking a teller to cash them, I sat down with one of the account managers. I asked him if they were legitimate. Of course, they weren't. So we talked for a bit about how the scam works and what I would be liable for if I went through with it. So, Jamie Johnson (if that is your real name), you didn't get this sucker suckered. If anyone else out there has this "opportunity"... The only "opportunity" here is to feel good about yourself for not falling for it!! :~D
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
14 Jul 11
There is so much of this crap going on that anytime I get a secret shopper thingie in my email I just delete it. I know there are some legitimate SS jobs but they are few and far between since they are so in demand. Congrats on using your God given good sense!
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@GardenGerty (157552)
• United States
14 Jul 11
The only way you get a real secret shopper job is to sign up with a real company. I am on a list for a lot of them, but I take very few of them. I have been taking occasional jobs for years. None of them ever involve large sums of money. $30 is the highest I have ever been paid.
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• United States
14 Jul 11
They're not really few and far between. I get about 8-10 REAL shop invitations each week. See my comment with the link to the Mystery Shopping Providers Association with a list of companies.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
14 Jul 11
It's such a shame. Being a secret shopper or mystery shopper is something that people can do in the US. I provided my son with free restaurant meals, free movies, and had extra income when I was a single mom because of mystery shopping opportunities. Today there are plenty of legitimate companies and plenty of people willing to work for much less money, so the payments are not what they used to be. In 1978, I did my first mystery shop. Back then, there were not the companies there are today, so they were handled by private investigation companies. I received $25 for visiting an apartment complex to see about getting an apartment. Back then, that was excellent pay for about 30 minutes of my time. For anyone who is interested, there is an organization called Mystery Shopping Providers Association. This link gives a list of legitimate companies in North America. (The site also lists companies in Europe and Asia.) http://www.mysteryshop.org/shoppers/membercos.php For shoppers, there is the opportunity to be certified. One does not need certification for most shopping experiences. But if you ever wanted to do mystery shops for expensive hotels or cruise ships, certification would be suggested. The site mentions the money order scam and they also provide information about any other scams known as they start circulating the internet.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
14 Jul 11
I would like to know how this one works, ParaTed. I know about the scam where you deposit a (dud) cheque or money-order in your bank but I don't see how that would work if you exchange a money order (in all good faith) at a bank for cash. Surely, you just walk away with the cash ... or do they require name and address and other ID? I understand that the smart thing to do with such scams is to cash the cheque or money order and to immediately place the money into a savings or deposit account (if possible, with another bank) until the transaction has been validated - or not, as the case many be. This can, I understand, take up to six days (and you can hang onto the cash a bit longer, I believe by querying the request the bank will make for you to return the money ... but that is grey-hat, if not black-hat behaviour!) The money will have earned a little interest for you and you will not have lost anything by just paying it back to the bank. They cannot do you for fraud because you did not spend the money and it is up to the bank to check whether the order is valid before accepting it.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
15 Jul 11
VERY neat! However, Western Union must theoretically be able to trace when and where the wired money would end up since someone must physically collect the cash. I'm glad you had the naus to discuss it with your Account Manager! Many people wouldn't, I guess.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
14 Jul 11
There are two keys to this scam. 1) You cash the money orders at your bank. When they "bounce", then YOU are responsible to pay the bank back, and pay any fees and fines. 2) You're a Secret Shopper, the store you are supposed to "review" is Western Union. You take the money to Western Union and wire the money to the designated person. That means the scammers get their money, but you are left holding the bag for the phony money order. If you can find them, yes, they would be just as liable, but you don't know where they are, or really who they are.
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@allen0187 (58444)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
hi ted. good for you that you didn't fall for the scam. others would have taken it hook, line, and sinker. the idea of earning such easy cash is to hard to say no to. i used to have a gig as a secret shopper. it paid well and i get a chance to keep half of what i had 'purchased'. aside from the written reports that i have to file, i was wired with a hidden camera so that made my work easier. it was a blast while the gig lasted but then i had to give it up. anyway, again, i'm glad that you didn't fall for this scam. by the way, what would have been your liability had you encashed the checks? just curious. thanks ted. by the way, how's the band going? got any new songs? do post a link if you got some new material for us to listen to. cheers!!!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Jul 11
Yeah, I think being a secret shopper would be fun! I used to do stop loss security (busting shoplifters). That was a lot of fun too! The most fun was when I noticed store employees keeping an eye on me.. thinking I was a shoplifter. ;~D I would have owed the bank $1800 plus fees and might have even ended up in jail myself. That's the thing about this kind of scam, the person who goes through with it can be charged with cashing fraudulent money orders. The victim goes to jail, but the scammers still get paid. The band is going ok, but Guitar Hero II was right where it said, "A band is the dysfunctional family you choose" :~D
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@allen0187 (58444)
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
$1800?!!! that's a lot of dough man. more dough than i can afford to burn nowadays, ha!!! anyway, glad that you were smart enough not to fall for that scam. scammers are parasites pure and simple! hopefully, the person pulling the scam gets busted sooner and spends a good time in jail. '...a band is the dysfunctional family you choose'... so true ted, so true! cheers!!!
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@katie0 (5203)
• Japan
16 Jul 11
We can't trust these guys but always jump to a new bussiness choosing carefully by their reputation. Thanks for sharing!
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• United States
14 Jul 11
That is so smart. You really saved yourself a trip to the slammer. Never except money orders from these so called mystery shopping companies that tell you do an assignment for a Western Union location. I remember back in December when I still lived with my dad and getting a "mystery shopping" assignment from a so-called SS company in Massachussets. They gave me a check that looked fake for about $1200. They told me that the assignment was good for two or three days. Luckily by the time my assignment came, I couldn't do it anyway because it was past it's due date. The assignemnt was to visit a Western Union and pretend you're sending money to a friend of relative. They said I could make $300 a week from this, but I now konw the check and the assignment was a scam. With real mystery shopping jobs, you have to use your own money to pay for stuff but they reimburse you for it.
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• United States
14 Jul 11
When I said when I was still living with my dad, I meant to say mom. Sorry.
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@betlynfrnds (4060)
• United States
15 Jul 11
I did a couple of Mystery Shops some years ago. It was fun but I've never heard of this one. Wow. It's sad to say that I'm not the least bit surprised. Some people are such losers. Thank you for the heads up. It's a good thing that you were alert and didn't get into trouble.
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@mindym (978)
• United States
15 Jul 11
Good for you for being so smart!! Wouldn't earning an extra $1800 just for cashing two money orders or checks be a great opportunity and the ideal job?!?! These scams make me so mad because some people will receive the real-looking check and think that it is an easy quick buck. Then they cash the check or money order and are out that quick buck and then some. It is so sad...and maddening! There are definitely legitimate SS companies, and I know because I have done SS in the past. I have never been offered or paid that much, so I tend to go by the rule "If it sounds to be too good to be true, it probably isn't."
@nijolechu (1842)
• Canada
16 Jul 11
It's a good thing your gut instincts told you to verify with the bank manager to make sure it wasn't a scam. I have seen many different people fall for this kind of a scam and others like it. They would have to wire their moneys from their Western Union bank to the person on the other end. Then when they find out its a scam, They can't really do a trace back to find where the money went. I hope other people don't fall for these types of scams.
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• United States
15 Jul 11
It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that this is a scam. Think for a moment. What company in their right mind would send you $1800.00? I would have just tossed it.
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@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
Good job for being so clever. Most people are blinded by the amount of money they received they easily fall for it. I feel so sorry for those who have been victims already and i hope that the scumbag, whoever he is will be caught or at least stopped from fooling other people.
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
15 Jul 11
I see thousands of those websites and I get hundreds of spam mail from them. Most making money websites on the internet are scams. It's a shame. It would be real nice if they were legit. Well, at least we have MyLot.
@naija4real (1291)
15 Jul 11
I advise you to be more conscious of the numerous scam that is coming up this days. Most of us come across this fraudulent messages in our emails, mobile phones and other handheld devices. I just hope this is an eye openers to many of us. It reawaken our consciousness to be more carefull in future.
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@RJlady1 (144)
• United States
15 Jul 11
It's good you posted it. So many people are unemployed, more than ever looking for something on the Internet. I think you really can find those jobs if you apply directly to the businesses, stores I mean. Although there may be fewer available now, like everything else.
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@GardenGerty (157552)
• United States
14 Jul 11
This scam in various forms has been around a while. I know of people wh have gotten cut up in some types of money exchange and lost tons of money trying to make a little. The documents look so real. I have received a money order for about $2400 and I was to buy a blouse at an expensive store, and wire some money and fill out the same report. I am pleased to not have fallen for it either.
@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
14 Jul 11
Glad you were smart and spoke with someone at the bank instead of going through with it. There are several similar scams out there like that. It is amazing at the scams people come up with these days and even more amazing at the people who fall for them. Good heads up on your end!
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
For me yes it is not good to it so be good to determine if it is scam or not before go to the decision of not loosen your money.
• Malaysia
25 Jul 11
Browse tru the site recently, it is only for US residents so it is unavailable here in Asia.
• United States
14 Jul 11
OOOO( Wow! I would have been really upset, but at least you found out before you cashed the money order in your account. I use to work for a call center and this older lady called in oneday ( she sounded like she was about 65 years old )and said she had been scammed when she deposited a check in her bank account. If I'm not mistaken the letter she got with the check said she had won some money and she was to deposit the check in her account to claim it. So, she did and it turned out to be fraud. She had to get a different bank account number, but I don't think she was charged with fraud, however she did have to filed a police report. Of course, they never got in contact with this company or person. Poor lady, but this is why you should do your research. jobsonlineworkingfromhome.com/p/victim-of-scams-online.html
@bouncybug (614)
• South Africa
15 Jul 11
It makes me so angry when I hear about all these scams. I hate people who are out there just looking to make money off vulnerable, naive people. WELL DONE on not falling for the scam and not getting suckered :) Keep an eye out and be careful with all these scams out there - they seem to target people who want to make money online especially!
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