If it's not love then what is it?

By Toni
@toniganzon (72285)
Philippines
August 22, 2011 7:37pm CST
They have been talking to each other on the phone. They have been using skype to see each other and use it as their dating site. They have told each other how much they love each other and long for each other. They lust each other and it increases everyday. The distance between them is miles and miles apart. They are from two different worlds, different cultures and beliefs. Despite and inspite they are willing to fight for that love. For the life of me i couldn't understand how could this be possible that two people who are totally different could have this intense attraction to each other. And it's not merely physical attraction. He said, i think of her first thing in the morning and she's the last person i think of before i go to sleep. If it's not love what is it? Beats me!
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21 responses
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
I have a friend who met someone via a dating site. She's filipina and the guy is caucasian. An american from Los Angeles. They "fell in love" online. The guy visited her here. They got engaged. My friend visited him there. She never came back. They got married. Civilly. His promise that they will get married in Boracay never came true. His promise that they will start a family never came true. His promise to buy a house for them never came true. He had a vasectomy without telling her. She only found out about it because his doctor called to remind him of his follow-up check-up or something. The guy also admitted that he has fallen out of love with her but that he will not be the one to file a divorce. He was divorced once before and has a daughter from that relationship. I think he doesn't want to have to pay my friend alimony. He also admitted that 6 months into their marriage, he had an affair with another woman. Oh, did I tell you that she worked as her husband's bookkeeper "for free" the whole time they were together? He never paid her. She said she was doing it all for love. Yeah right. Good thing they're now separated. I wish they'd get a divorce. But that's a decision that my friend will have to make for herself. Aaaarggh! Just thinking about it makes my blood boil.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
That's totally a crap! These two in my discussion never met in any dating site online. They didn't even met in skype. They met by accident through an exclusive chat messenger feature of a phone. Call it fate or coincidence, but they just hit it off instantly. They're both busy with their lives and they do chat sometimes till the number of hours increases as the time goes by. I don't think they'll end up like those people in your story though.
• Philippines
2 Sep 11
Oh I do hope so.
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
I can tell you from experience, there is a very good chance that it is love. That is essentially how my relationship started. Me and my wife met online and it started out as just talking becoming friends. Then we were online talking as much as we could. Eventually one day she started telling me about herself stuff that she never told anyone else and me telling her the same thing. We totally opened up to each other and we realized we loved each other. It took almost two years with one visit during Dinagyang here in Iloilo in between those two years before we actually saw each other in person. Now that I am out of the military I have moved here and we are the happiest we have ever been. Sure we have arguments and things like that but I would be more worried if we didn't. So yes It is very much love in my case and I have faith that it would be in the case you mention as well.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
Now this is one story i really love to hear. Something from someone who had really experienced this. Thanks for sharing this and hope that this would open up the mind of those skeptics. I for one is a bit skeptical but i never closed my mind to the possibility that it could really be something that we call love. Thank you so much.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
@bagarad yeah i heard it. it's a very common thing. In this case however, they are both wealthy, well not unless one of them is lying. But i know my friend and he is wealthy and as to the girl, she has mentioned things quite consistently and i think it's not about money why they like each other. They hardly even bring it up. And no mention of migrating, well meeting each other someday, but not migrating.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
24 Aug 11
I know somone who had a similar experience that did not turn out so happily. He is an American and she was living in the Phillipines. I don't recall how they met, but they had met in person and then began to carry on a long distance relationship. He wanted to bring her here and marry her, and even went to visit her in the Phillipines for a couple of weeks. She wrote him romantic emails and proclaimed her love. Once she got here, though, and she discovered he wasn't as wealthy as she expected, that was the end. She got to the United States, as she wanted to, and after two months, she moved out of the state . That's as much of the story as I know. I'm glad some stories turn out happily. I met an old friend recently who had met his wife on the Internet and he seems to be happy. But I would advise people from different cultures to be careful -- especially if the other person has a reason to want to be able to emmigrate to your country and marriage might be the ticket to becoming a legal immigrant.
@kaplya (1578)
• India
23 Aug 11
It could be love but passive love maybe because you haven't yet taken it to the next level that is to meet each other in real life. Love might not have any boundaries or distance but it also makes you cross the boundaries and cover the distances. Falling in love on internet is quite easy and common because it has this romantic feeling about it and actually we all can very easily try our hands at it as we got so many options. Most of the time, you just see what you want to see in the other person, also on internet it's totally in our hand that how we present ourselves to the other person which of course may not be always what we are like in real world. Perhaps, it's just strong attraction which is fueled by the distances between them and being termed as "love" or let's hope it's indeed love!
@kaplya (1578)
• India
24 Aug 11
No-one is judging anyone!lol It's just when one is having a discussion one has to look at it from all angles.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
AS long as they are happy, who are we to judge what they really feel!
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23 Aug 11
i'd love to give you a really indepth and insightful comment to this discussion, intermingled with some dry witty comments.. but i have absoloutly no idea what you are talking about lol!
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
I'm giving you the best response as a punishment! But that wouldn't be fair to others. So can i just kick your butt instead?
24 Aug 11
haha don't take the best response away from meeeeee!! nooooooo!! *grabs it with both hands and bites you* hahaha rofl!
@viju0410 (2286)
• India
23 Aug 11
I think it is not love but rather a close friendship. I think the vacant place for a friend is being filled here. Before deciding their future, they should think about all pros and cons as these days we hear more about being cheated in person knowing well each other then how do we take the net love a 100%?
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Do you lust your friend? If a close friend of mine would lust me, i would definitely end my friendship with that person.
@viju0410 (2286)
• India
23 Aug 11
no but here the lust may be due to the distance involved.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
I think it is love! love knows no boundaries as everybody says. Even you are far away from each other it is not impossible to fall in love when someone show some care,sweet words and incomparable love to you. Love and be love.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
I think you are in love at this moment! Your comment is shouting with too much emotion coming from you. Well maybe you are right and maybe you can be wrong. But then it's nice to think that it could happen in the real world or even in the virtual world. Thanks.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Yes you are right! I'm in love right now and my girlfriend is miles away from me. We only communicate using phone calls, text messages and facebook. We meet during holidays cause that's the time i can come home.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
23 Aug 11
Toni! It is a complex situation to 'understand' for people like us.. Only those two who are involved in it could understand it. To my mind on line love affairs could be tricky and dicey because when they would see other in person, they may experience different feelings for each other. Face to face interaction is very much different from on line interaction and even if you speak on phone or through internet, you cannot read/see gestures etc. on other person's face.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
23 Aug 11
You made me laugh ...........and I stop .............!!! I agree with you that seeing each others' gestures on Computer screen is really crazy and it does not give one's true picture (picture of his/her emotions).. Meeting face to face with each other is no substitute for on-line interaction.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
I think i should tell you something because you mentioned gestures. I really thought my friend is crazy because he told me that they would spend hours in front of the computer, not saying a word to each other but just staring at each other. And when one is working, the other is just staring and watching each other's gestures. See how crazy they are?
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
For me I think its love even if he doesn't admit it but if it's not love maybe they are just enjoying each others company. Maybe the girl was sweet to him in their chat online or maybe the girl is just charming that he is just affectionate of her.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
They both say they are in love with each other. It maybe love, it maybe not but they are happy.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
23 Aug 11
It could be love. I think you need to meet someone in person to actually know if you feel a physical attraction to them, but I think you can love someone without actually meeting them but not entirely in a romantic way, but I think for the most part you can be romantic. But you have to meet to see if the physical attraction is still there to know if it is absolute love or not, but I do believe you can love someone you have never met, just not quite fully, but pretty darn close.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
But they are also physically attracted to each other by just looking at each other in skype. But i'm not sure either if it's love. Whether it's love or not, i'm just happy that they claim they are!
@oXAquaXo (607)
• United States
23 Aug 11
I'm not sure if that's love. Maybe they're lonely, found someone with similar interests, and are curious to find out more about them? There are many things that can be mistaken for love, and this may just be one of those cases. But, then again, it's possible that it's love. Many people believe that love is something "predestined", and once you meet that person (and it doesn't even have to be face to face), you instantly know that they're the one. I've never actually met anyone to whom this has happened before, so I'm a little skeptical...but my mind's still open :) Maybe this is one of life's eternal mysteries...
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Like you I'm skeptic as well and not sure whether it's really love or not. But i'm just glad that they are happy. If they say they are, well who am i to say it's not.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
For me that's not love Toni. It's just a mutual attraction, borne out of their being in communication at each other always. They both fill what they might be lacking in life, someone who have the time to be with him/her.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Could be true. For us it may not be love, but for them it is.
@Jenith (1381)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
It's almost love I guess. It's just that they are too far with each other and we don't know yet if the feelings that they have right now will still be the same when they will stay together. All I know this always happen for someone who married a foreigner. First, they do chatting and fall in love with each other. Later the foreigner came and married the woman. Results? Some are happy and some are not. It depends of the love that bound to both of them. Happy mylotting!
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
It really is a case to case basis. So let's wait and see what will happen to them in the future.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
For me, it is indeed love. Everything can happen when it comes to love. I have a friend in the same situation. They only see each other through yahoo messenger and most of the time, they are talking in the morning the very moment they wake up and before they go to sleep at night.for some who didn't experience long distance relationship, we may think that it is crazy. Loving someone who is miles apart. For me it's love.:-P
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Thank you for your comment. It matters a lot. Yes for us who haven't experienced this it might sound crazy and unreal. But for those who are in this situation they would fight tooth and nail to prove that it is indeed love. I guess i just have to widen my thoughts on this one.
• India
23 Aug 11
In today's generation it's a attraction. They think that they love each other but it's not.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Have you been in that situation? I'm not so i'm skeptic, but i'm giving them a chance to prove to themselves that it is. I have Romanian friends who feel in love through facebook. And after eight months of talking through skype they finally met in Florida and now they are happy.
• Chatsworth, California
23 Aug 11
It's infatuation. They don't know eachother in person. Who know what the person's really thinking? If it has been under 4 months it's the honeymoon period. We'll see what happens as the relationship goes on or if the two ever meet. I'm not saying that it is not love, maybe they really are. But I don't think this is very likely. BTW is this about you?
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Seems like this is the first time you saw my name here in mylot. No it's not me. I'm married.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
23 Aug 11
Hi toni Well, this is what I would call - Attraction that togetherness brings. I cannot say that this is love or not because love's definition varies from person to person. It can also be infatuation as some mentioed above, but I think it is more about the distance and the togetherness if not anything else. On skype, or cases where people dont meet in real, they get attracted towards one another because they are distant. They always portray the unreal (virtual side) of theirs which might always seem positive and atrractive. Things might not be the same when the real people meet.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
True. Like what i told one mylotter, for us it may not be love, but for them it is.
• United States
23 Aug 11
It sounds like love to me. Though they are from two different worlds, as the old saying says sometimes opposite attract. Apparently they do care very deeply as they would not be spending so much time talking to one another and thinking of the other when they first wake up.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
And he keeps on telling me what you just said. "Why else would i waste my precious time talking to her all day if i don't love her??" I guess that's love indeed! And i just have to live with the fact that it can happen.
@katrinapaz (2436)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
i think it is just the adrenaline of being in love but not really love. my definition of love is when you know the faults and bad attitudes of the person and you can still see the kind person within and you can accept the real him. i dont think so that a lot of time chatting and skyping can really see the person. it is only if you have been with him personally that you can really learn a lot from him.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
you got a point, but let's see what happens.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
hehehehe for me i guess that is just needs.. looking some comfort and understandings... You can only tell if its love probably seeing that in person.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Comfort and understanding can be given more by the people near us not far from us.
@voracious (624)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
If it's not love maybe it's affection and it's hard to control it. Love can be acquired unexpectedly and love bears baby.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
Well they are capable of having babies if they want to and meet in the future. And inability to have babies doesn't negate the fact that two people can still love each other.