Ron Paul running on a separate ticket for President

@Fatcat44 (1141)
United States
September 26, 2011 11:13pm CST
The last two elections, if my memory serves be correctly, Ron Paul ran for President on a different party ticket after he did not win the GOP nomination. In such a critical time for the GOP to to win the next presidency, do you think he will run on a separate ticket, or will he for the good of the people not split the GOP votes so they can have a chance to win the next election?
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
27 Sep 11
Ron Paul ran as a republican last time and continued as a republican even after he lost the nomination. As for splitting the votes, I don't know about you, but I'm not voting the GOP into the white house. I'm voting for the candidate I think is best for the job. Frankly, if it came down to Perry vs. Obama (and Ron Paul or Gary Johnson don't make the write in ticket), I just plain wouldn't vote. This whole "back the electable candidate" happened back in '08, as well. If memory serves, that didn't work out so well. Why would anyone expect it to work this time? I'd rather not be one of the mindless drones who thinks beating the incumbent is the ultimate goal. It's not. The goal is electing someone who represents your interests and ideals for the country. "Not Obama" is not a good reason to elect someone.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
I could not agree more...the "not Obama" vote is a bad idea. Just because someone is not Obama does not mean he or she will do a good job.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
Great call! When did vote your conscience or send them a message become don't rock the boat? Ron Paul and his army are there to express an important alternative view of the world around us and what our leaders should do. If you like Ron, follow him and don't sell out for 'half a loaf'.
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@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
28 Sep 11
So you would rather have Obama back in than some of these other candidates
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• United States
27 Sep 11
He ran on the libertarian ticket the first time. The republican ticket the second time and this time. He has said he will not run third party. As for supporting who ever wins the primary. Why should he. Why support someone who does not believe in or stand for his principles? He did not support mccain for a reason. I personally do not care if he did support romney or Perry if one of them win the primary. I still will not vote for either of them. If Paul or Johnson do not win the primary I will either vote third party or do a write in. I won't vote for someone I so not believe in. Period
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@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
27 Sep 11
So you would rather split the GOP vote and possibly let Obama get re-elected than to vote for the person who wins the GOP nomination? A vote not for the GOP candidate is a partial vote for Obama. Think about this. I know several people who voted for another party during the last election and explained what they actually helped Obama get elected, they understand I wish they had voted GOP. This is one of the points that I am getting to here. If we want to defeat Obama, we have to stick together on this issue. The biggest priority is to get Obama out of office. He is killing us. Every GOP candidate they we have would do a much superior job than Obama, that we need to unite and make sure one of these are elected, even though they are not are favorite candidate. We owe it to our country and our children. I, personally, think we have several GOP nominations that I would gladly vote for, and I will vote GOP no matter what to get rid of Obama.
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• United States
27 Sep 11
Sorry I am not a "party" follower. If the person that gets it sucks I won't vote for him or her. I am more of a libertarian than a republican. I see parts if the GOP as just as bad as Obama. I won't vote for a neocon. Sure we can all stick together...vote for Ron Paul and we will stick together just fine. I would be fine with Gary Johnson too. I am strongly against voting for the lesser of two evils....still voting for evil.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Sep 11
Fatcat....if anyone besides Ron Paul (maybe Gary Johnson) gets the nomination, we might just as well vote for a 3rd party because there is no other Republican candidate who can beat Obama. If they nominate anyone else, they might just as well start writing the concession speech the same night. Besides, I don't believe in voting for the "lesser of two evils". We only have a two party system because of that very mentality.
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@usaction (649)
• United States
29 Sep 11
I don't think he went under another party in the 2008 election, after not having large success in the 2008 election. The last time he ran, which was 1988, if I remember from his entry on Wikipeida, it was Republican, but can't recall beyond that. IMO, if he doesn't gain sufficient for the GOP, then he should STILL try to run, if he so desires. How is it *NOT* good to "split" the GOP vote? The elections should be about getting the best candidate in, not focusing in on the 2 main parties. I think, just as an example, if he chose to go Libertarian, he should do so. It should not be looked at as harm being done to one party or the other, but in allowing the vast majority of votes to help decide who should run. If anything, I'd hope it encourages a "split" in BOTH Reps and Dems, who've shown that they basically follow the same path: neither side has made any real efforts to ending Iraq; each seems content to keep their top-notch health-care; each has their scandals. I hope that it brings attention to the overall system of how the government runs, and not just "who has the ball now." Even if he doesn't win, if he can get more people interested in actually DOING something, then he's done more than ANY politician of any level--local - fed--in more years than I can think!
@mehale (2200)
• United States
27 Sep 11
He actually is running on the GOP ticket. However I am not sure that he will ever gain enough support to actually win the nomination. In some ways he is too far out there for the Republican base. Plus he is not doing that well in the polls, though part of that is the media coverage that seems for the most part to go to either Romney or Perry. So no, I do not think he will try to split the GOP votes except in the primary. I cannot say if he would support whomever the nominee was or not, but if he doesn't then I could not blame him.....as long as he sticks with his principals to vote.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Sep 11
Actually, after losing the Republican nomination in 2008, Ron Paul gave his official endorsement to Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution party. But he didn't run as an independent or "3rd party" candidate himself. I don't see the GOP winning in itself as "critical". In all honesty, there really isn't any difference. I keep trying to tell people the only difference between the two is the parts of your life they want the government intruding in and the enemies the throw up to make us go running to them for protection from. What is important is the right person winning...not the right party, and the GOP standard is no more good for the country than the Dem standard. There is no lesser evil...this is an illusion.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Sep 11
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-baldwin-for-president/ Why is it so hard to conceive? He didn't see a candidate worth endorsing in the republican party for that election. He holds the same ideology I do, party is not important, the person is what matters and there was no person running in either of the two main parties he could support.
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@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
29 Sep 11
I looked this up, and it appears he ran on the libertarian party in 1988, only. But I still have a had time with him giving his endorsement to a non-GOP just for that the fact that it takes votes away from the GOP. Votes we needed to keep O out of office. I hope he has enough smart to endorse a GOP candidate this year.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
27 Sep 11
If he loves Amercia as much as he says he does, he will not split the ticket and if he doesn't get the nomination he will support whoever does get it. Maybe they can put him in charge of financial policy or finding the waste in the federal budget. Or maybe he could be in charge of looking into which government agencies are no longer serving a useful purpose.