The past is the past, or is it?

@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
October 2, 2011 11:29pm CST
Well, I've talked about the fact that I've recently been spending time with my ex's older sister because she and I were always really close and we lost contact for many years. That has meant that I've also spent some time with my ex as well, in fact, he and I do still get along really well as friends. Angie and I were at another old friend's house the other day when her brother decided to come over as well for a few minutes. It was cool with me because I also had Paul (my four-year-old) with me and Paul loves Donnie to death. While we were sitting there, Donnie decided to tell me that I should never say anything about our past to his girlfriend because she doesn't know anything about the past relationship that he and I had. Of course, I'm not a spiteful person and would never do that to someone, especially when the only thing that I want for him is that he can be happy. He's been through way too much in the past year. However, it also bothered me a lot that he brought that up because it isn't something that I even think about all that often. Yes, I do still love him, but not in a romantic type of way, instead, I love him as a person loves their closest friends. But, I do believe that he still has some kind of feelings for me and that is the reason that he hasn't told Lucy about it. Since he said that to me, I've been uncomfortable around Lucy because I feel like I'm keeping a secret from her because I was involved in the past. I'm a very open person, but this is one thing that is not mine to tell. So, I guess the question that I would really like to ask is, does anyone ever think that the past is really in the past? The other question is, would you ever keep a huge secret from your partner? (I don't think that it is a huge secret to keep, but with the way that he talked about it, he makes it seem like I huge secret.)
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@padu19 (1441)
• India
3 Oct 11
Well, I would myself not like to maintain any secrets. But tehre are a few things which I might not feel comfortable telling my partner. For eg, it once happened that a guy fell in love with me and started talking ill about my partner. He held my hands too. I didn't like telling my partner about these things as I did not like to tell anything that could hurt him. And, I hated that guy trying to hold my hands without my permission. These things create embarrassement. However, according to me, if both of you have moved on, then 'past is the past'. But if both of you couldn't, then I would say there is always a chance that you both can make a present too!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Oct 11
hi dorannmwin yes when you are really partners withyour husband rough patches like the loss of our little girl brought us even closer together as we helped and supported each other through 'that. Now I am a senior citzen and widowed for many years'but I have mostly really pleasant memories of my marriage.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
5 Oct 11
It is a great thing that most of the memories that you have of your marriage are pleasant memories. I know that most of mine are too, but the hard times are really difficult.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
Well, the present for us is a friendship because of the fact that I'm married and the fact that I love my husband even though we've been going through a tough time. Instead of the tough time that we've faced driving us apart, it is instead something that is bringing my husband and myself closer together.
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@omchesunche (1755)
• Indonesia
3 Oct 11
Well, I think we must forget the past and moving forward with what we have now. If there's no more emotional feeling, if still then it still not the past. I have experienced similar problem and both me and my ex has met and build mutual agreement to end-up everything since then. I don't think we should keep any huge secret if we already committed to someone since really hard to build trustful relationship if we have any.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
That is honestly one of the reason's that my husband knows everything about my past. I wanted him to be able to trust me and part of my thinking in being able to trust a person is to share with the person that you will be spending your life with what you've done in the past.
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• Indonesia
3 Oct 11
Well, I wish you have better relationship with that.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
Honestly, in most ways my relationship with my husband is perfect. This year has been really difficult because of health issues and the stress that is associated with it, but I also know that once we make it through all of that, we will be stronger than ever.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
3 Oct 11
He's making a big deal out of it and that is not putting the past into the past. It's allowing the past to dictate the present and the future. Since you're on good terms with him, why not talk to him about it? Having secrets from each other is no way to have a relationship anyway. If she finds out some other way, she's going to be hurt and suspicious. If you're both above board about it and she can see that there is nothing left of that relationship now, then she will learn to trust both of you.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
That is pretty much what I told him. I said first of all, that I'm not a spiteful person and I would never intentionally say something to someone that would hurt them. However, I also said that he should tell her if it is something that he feels like he needs to do (and he did tell me that he will do it eventually) because it is an important part of who he is.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
3 Oct 11
I don't like secrets. I think they are like a slow poison and destroy more relationship then anything else. If you talk to him again, tell him you will certinaly not talk about the past but if it were to come up you couldn't lie to keep secrets. Also advise him to find a way to tell his new girlfriend, because you are not the only one that knows that past and if she finds him keeping secrets it will certianly change the relationship. Blessings and stay true to yourself.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
I did tell him that I would never say anything to Lucy about the past relationship that we had. As the rest of his family says, I'm an old friend of the family, which I am because we've been friends for years though we did lose contact for some time. However, I wouldn't be able to look at Lucy in the face and lie to her if she was to ask me something point blank.
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• Philippines
3 Oct 11
hmmm.. i also don't think that it is going to be a great issue. Well, for me.. if he really loves his partner.. he should have told her everything. I believe in past is past so better forget it. The past doesn't matter anymore. But secrets like relationships of each partner must be shared with each other. What I mean is that the past relationship as lovers is nothing already. However, the past friendship you both had must remain as memories.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
That is what is bothering me about his relationship with Lucy is that he hasn't told her everything and in my opinion that is something that is very important to do in a relationship. It actually makes me wonder why he hasn't told her because he did tell me that he'd told his ex that he split with several months ago. Is he afraid to tell her because it might ruin their relationship or is he still harboring feelings that he doesn't want to share. I don't spend a lot of time with him because I just don't think that is healthy, but being as close to his sister as I am, it is inevitable that there will be times that our lives will converge.
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• Philippines
3 Oct 11
We'll its good hear that you are still friends with your ex. I actually admire you for being that open. Personally, I am the kind of person who really doesn't approve of having ex's around. Be it my ex or my husband's. I know, not everyone agree's with me on this, but I do believe that having ex's around is never healthy for a relationship, especially if the relationship is just new. When ex's who are friends say "past is past". They say that the feelings of wanting to be more than friends is gone... But for me, to make past stay in the past, is to keep it there. Now on your other question of keeping your relationship a secret. Maybe his new girl is like me. And maybe he did not come clean with his girlfriend yet. And if you intend to be friends with him and his girlfriend, you better tell him to let his girl know about your past relationship. Because when she finds out from other people, it will hurt her more. She may even feel betrayed not just by him, but also by you. That's just my two cents. =)
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
For me, I know that the feeling of ever wanting to have a relationship with him is gone because he really hurt me in the relationship that we had many years ago. He was immature at that time and so was I, but of course we've both grown up and are more mature now.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
4 Oct 11
I think she owes the explanation from your ex. I think you should not meddle, that is right and it is not for you to tell her.. it would then seem like you are trying to break them up, etc. you should really stay out of it then. you may feel guilty, but its not your relationship to worry about.. except of course if you do feel something for your ex then.. but im sure you don't anymore.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
5 Oct 11
I don't think that it is up to me to say anything either, but that doesn't mean that him telling me that he hasn't said anything to her doesn't make me feel really comfortable either.
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
4 Oct 11
It's weird that he's trying to hide it. Maybe she's a jealous type and would tell him he can't socialize with you since you used to be an item? I know I am a bit insecure and would not feel comfortable with my husband socializing with an ex-girlfriend even if they'd both moved on in their lives. There's always that fear in the back of my mind.. they had something for each other once, obviously they were attracted to each other, it wouldn't be so hard for them to start realizing their attraction again and that could lead to disaster. If it were me in his situation though, and she is a jealous type.. I personally would break off the friendship. I don't think anything is important enough to cause trouble in my primary relationships, which in my life is my husband and my kids. If I were to make friends with someone I previously dated and my husband said he wasn't comfortable.. then I stop the friendship because hubby is my #1 priority. Though I do think he should be honest. Someday this information will leak, and she will be upset that he didn't tell her. That could dissolve their relationship right there.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
5 Oct 11
I will admit that I do try to keep my distance for the most part. However, the fact that his sister and I are really close friends does mean that there will be times that our paths will cross. I do hope that when the day comes that someone leaks something (if it isn't him) that it won't cause harm to their relationship.
@Shar19 (8231)
• United States
3 Oct 11
That's good that you all are still friends. However, the fact that your ex isn't telling his girlfriend about your past with him is not good. I would tell him that is he wants to remain friends with you then he needs to be honest with his girlfriend. If he chooses not to tell her then I would cut ties with him.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
You are right. In fact, it actually shocked me that he took the time to tell me that she didn't know because I'd actually assumed that she did know and that was why she is the way that she is around me. Guess that just makes me a fool in a certain sense.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
3 Oct 11
i would just look at it as doing a favor for a friend. she may be the jealous type and i wouldnt want to cause any problems. she may turn out to be his happiness and that would be quite good for you to be a part of.even if she finds out eventually, id just pass it off as not being important enough to mention if i was you.i know i have this cousin that im close to and hes always had those feelings for me although ive just loved him like family but every woman hes had has been really jealous of me. even tho theres nothing like that has ever went on.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
You are right and that is the reason that I won't say anything to her. However, I don't think that he really needed to point it out to me because it was something that I just assumed that she knew and for that reason wouldn't have brought it up either.
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@piya84 (2581)
• India
3 Oct 11
Past is never just a past.It is past if you are no more interacting with those people for years and do not have any feelings towards them.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
Even in that way, I don't really think that the past is totally the past because of the fact that past interactions that you've had in your life do have an impact on the person that you are in the present. However, the past doesn't have to be something that you dwell on constantly.
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@marguicha (215604)
• Chile
8 Oct 11
I would not keep a huge secret from my partner and it seems you would not either. But some people are unsure of their partners and maybe afraid of telling them some things of their past. I don´t thing it is a huge secret either. All people from a certain age on surely have had other BFs or GFs in their past.
@marguicha (215604)
• Chile
10 Oct 11
I have no direct experience as my husband was also my first BF. But I don´t think I would have kept a secret from him. I have the idea the you two have a lovely marriage, the kind that bonds more when there are problems. That´s the way it was with my husband.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Oct 11
Yeah, Tom and I have always had a great relationship. I was comfortable sharing with him from the time that we met and that has always been a good thing. Though this year has been very difficult for us, I know that we are stronger now than we were before all of this happened.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
10 Oct 11
No, there is no way that I would have been able to have kept a secret from Tom for a variety of reasons, the first of which is that he was so honest with me when we first met. Additionally, I think that knowing about a person's past gives a lot of insight into the person that they are today. That is honestly why it was so important for him to have known about my past relationships and the person that I was in the past because who I was in the past did a lot toward molding who I am today.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
3 Oct 11
While the past should most certainly be left in the past, there are just many times where it tends to rather taunt us in the not so distant future to say the very least. There are just many times where past feelings, both good or bad tend to really taunt us, something that has happened or could have happened, it really is going to be something. I think that there are times where we feel like something is some deep dark secret, because we have really made it out to be such a way in our mind. Is it truly? When some of the time yes, but other times, it is rather not the case to say the least. The past was it was, even though there are many times where it does color a great deal of what is being done in the present.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
You are right and perhaps part of the reason that I'm letting this bother me so much is because of the fact that I had just assumed that she knew and he told me otherwise. It's not mine to tell, so I won't, I just hope that he does make the decision to tell her.
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@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
3 Oct 11
Hello my friend, actually for me yes past is the past which other means forget the it and make forward without looking back. But I strongly not believe that because past is always part our real life which sometime in relationship past can caused of path ways or separation, sometimes is it for good reasons and sometimes as you said huge or big secret from the past. However, you can forget the past for a while may be, but past can always connected to our present and future life which depends on person how to handle it.... like your situation.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
Oh, there is no way that in anyone's life that the past doesn't have something to do with your current life. However, the past never has to be something that you dwell on constantly. For example, in another relationship, I was hurt really bad and after that happened, I said that I would never be able to be completely open with another person again. In that way, the past is never in the past because it molds who we are in the present.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Oct 11
I don't know. They say if you loved somebody, there's always still something there, but I can say that for a few of my exes that's not true, but in at least 2 cases, there's still something there. I've kept huge secrets from my partner. Bad policy...
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
4 Oct 11
Hi Doran, we are here because there is a past. i can't leave my past just like that cause it play a role for what i am now. and i can't blame you if you feel uncomfortable..that is normal
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
6 Oct 11
Maybe that is appear because he is feeling guilty to have that feelings in the past or maybe he still have that feelings now and that makes him like having an affair both of you -you and lucy have to talk about it anyway so she know that there is nothing between u n paul now
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
10 Oct 11
Well, I'm certainly not going to be the one to approach her because I don't want to be the reason that a relationship falls apart. However, if she does have any questions for me when the discussion does come up, I'd be more than happy to talk to her.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
5 Oct 11
I do think that it is normal as well. However, what I don't think is normal is his going out of his way to make sure that I knew that Lucy didn't know about the past. It isn't something that I've ever mentioned in front of anyone in years. I know our relationship molded who I am today, but I also know that it is something that is best to not dwell on.
@TrvlArrngr (4045)
• United States
3 Oct 11
I find it hard to keep the past in the past when faced with people from the past. It's like a whole other me.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
I don't see myself being that way in my life, but then I also realize that there are no two people in the world that are exactly the same.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
10 Oct 11
It sounds to me that you don't have any problems letting go of the past, but your ex has. Maybe it's his feelings that he still has that's preventing him from letting go. You being free of this is also the reason you are uncomfortable with her around. Because you know that whatever you had in the past, is already in the past.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
10 Oct 11
I believe that it is a combination of that and also the fact that he made it a point to tell me that she doesn't know anything about it. Honestly, I wasn't uncomfortable being around her until I learned that she didn't know anything. Up until then I just assumed she knew and for that reason I was okay being around her even though I would have never brought it up in conversation.
• United States
3 Oct 11
I feel that the past is only the past when the two of you mutually agree it is the past and will move on with the current. I think it is okay that he tell you what he told his girlfriend, however not with the intent to keep as a secret. I am not sure why that would make a difference to the girl friend as she is now the current and being that you are married you pose no threat to her. Personally I don't have communication with any of my exes, but my situation is a bit different as we did not end amicably. Therefore, I think it is okay to think in the direction that the past is the past if both of you mutually understand that friendship is more important. I do understand the feeling of discomfort around the new girlfriend and maybe distancing might be wise.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Oct 11
Distancing is something that I've actually tried to do all along because of the fact that the only thing that I really want for Donnie in his life is that he be happy again despite all that has happened to him. Perhaps part of the reason that he hasn't told her about our relationship in the past is because of the fact that they are in a fairly new relationship. However, I also think that if you want to spend your life with someone, you need to always be open with them. In fact, it was my husband's openness that was the reason that I told my mother the first time that I ever talked to him that he would be the person that I would be spending the rest of my life with.
@didi13 (2926)
• Romania
4 Oct 11
You can not escape the past. It's a dark room where you can not go. Stand in the doorway and try to see what's inside, but can not because everything is ambiguous. However some say that they were clean "room" so that they make decisions and do not return the way, the past is arranged as he wants. When walking on the street, sidewalk, in stores, in parks or simply the "give a round" by yourself, you give him everything that follows you everywhere, so how it is invisible city or places you review your haunted by the ghosts are called memories. Some of them forcibly put in the "dark room" sweat gathering on his forehead. They had no place at a time because they were too big, too powerful, too over you. But you wanted ... wanted to go there and you've hidden due asudând hard effort ... Others came with nonchalance on you when you begged them not to leave, but they got over losing you reach the door and into the dark room where you can not ever do inventory. And then go look ... Memories come and go so quickly that you do not know if they have gone, if only staying a bit or if you seek always pushing yourself to feel the presence. So you can wake up to a night with a message from someone you've never seen it three years and that you will not revisit anytime soon because he lives in another country telling you that thinks more in you and that you are a special person, or a Monday you can end up with an e-mail from a person no longer exists for you reprimanded and that no longer greet and that you give them things that she made gift. And so you realize that the past comes with detachment you want more than you. Nothing you say that you've locked in the room in question properly and that will not bother you. Nothing remain immune to some things that no longer exists, because you've forgotten, because you found they were only superficial. All you rising up ... and that's because I stand before you and force you to look and think about them. Our Shadow's past, always following us, we meet from time to time after that ... and go.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Oh, I know that we cannot escape from the past because almost everything that happens in our lives has an impact on us in some way. That means that we are faced with our past on a daily basis. However, I also know that it is not healthy to dwell in the past.