. saying no to your child

@SIMPLYD (90722)
Philippines
October 17, 2011 11:10pm CST
Often , I see children who would cry and squirm on the floor in a mall, when their parents say No to something they see and like. The poor parents would just give in. I feel lucky that I didn’t raise my child that way. At an early age, I made her understand that her parents cannot just buy her anything, anytime she wishes. She has to wait , until we have the budget for it. So, whenever we are in the mall and she saw something she wants but it’s not within my budget I would lovingly refuse her if we know that it’s not necessary. To that, she will calmly say “Pag may pera na lang kayo”, (If you already have the money). I would smile and hug her . And then, I would make a budget for it when I see that she deserves it.. But sometimes , she eventually would forget about it. Never did she had a tantrum or cry at the mall .
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• United States
18 Oct 11
i see way to many kids like this. i dont have any kids yet but i raised my sister from when she was 2 months till she was 3 years because her mom had severe PTSD and my dad always worked. not once did i ever have a problem like this or any problem at all really. she always listened to me and was a great child. i moved out when she was 3, she is now 5 and whenever i go over to their house or any where with them i am shocked to see the way she behaves. -she screams and crys over everything from not liking what they made for diner to not getting what she wants -she wont eat or drink anything unless it is out of a green cup or plate. -if she cant watch what she wants or if someone is sitting where she wants to sit. ect everytime i see this my jaw drops. but i have to admit it is not her fault. her mother and father give her whatever she wants to stop her from screaming. they scream and yell and swear at her when she doesnt listen then they get mad when she throws a fit. the worst thing i have seen her do was trap her 12 year old sister under the table and kick her in the face repeatedly until she was crying. when stopped and asked why she was doing it her answer was "because i felt like it" i said ok but why? "because she wouldnt give me her toy." i was like WTF? and thats when my father walked in and started screaming and swearing at her. anyway it just amazes me that such a good child can change that much just because of her parents. what im saying is that its not really the childs fault it is often the people she/he is surrounded by. i am glad you have taught her so well. we need more people who teach their children like this. it drives me nuts to hear little kids screaming in the store
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
18 Oct 11
So true xmichelletarax! It's the people around the kid that greatly influences how a child behaves. Sadly, some parents are not done growing up themselves, that they don't know how to handle it when they have their own children. And oftentimes, it ends up into screaming matches. A viscious cycle that is in no way healthy for a child.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
The way i think of it, it's really the parents or the people that surrounds the child that is contributory to the child's bad ways. Had they been firm when the child first throw a tantrum of not giving in , the kid would not act like that again the next time.
• United States
19 Oct 11
so true. im just thankful he has calmed down from when i was a child. hell my first memory of him was when i was little, i woke up in the middle of the night and walked out to get a drink and found him in the living room stabbing himself numerous times in the chest. he would get angry and pick my older sister and i up by our throats and slam us into the wall and punch holes above our heads. then as i got older we had our fair share of screaming matches, which usually ended with me getting put through a wall or through the screen door. and he WONDERED why i was such a rebellious teen lol. but as i said im really glad he has calmed down and no longer does those sorts of things. the most he does now is scream and yell. but it still causes me to feel bad for her. between that and her mom having severe PTSD and a non cancerous brain tumor. i dont think it helps either that he is a "man who*e" and is constantly leaving them for the newest 20 year old he meets when he is like 47 lol
@shanemae (1025)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
wow! lucky parents! well, yes i hate spoiled kids squirming in the malls! what's worst is when they are in the church. there are a lot of them in the church who would cry at the top of their voices just to get the parents attention and unfortunately other's attention too. when i would have a kid i would also do what you say to your kids Simplyd. it's better that way. i think kids won't really be so stubborn if they were taught and explained calmly. thumbs up to you and my parents. i think they have raised me that way because my mother would always tell me that when we were still kids we barely have tantrums just like the kids we see in churches and malls and that is also because we were disciplined well.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
Yes, kudos to us parents who really are into disciplining their children. At least now, i am and your parents are too, proud of my child and you. Actually, kids can be cajoled into obeying the parents, if the parents are really bent in being followed.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Oct 11
Some of that is on the parents. Two of my girls would try that crying thing to get their way. The oldest one learned quickly on that the tantrum not only did not work but it also would not get budgeted in any time soon. One of them was more stubborn and it continued way longer than I care to re-live. Regardless, I never once gave in to her just to shut her up and make my life easier. I knew that by doing so, it may make my life more pleasant in that moment but I'd pay dearly the next time because then she would know I had limits. Except for one occasion that I can recall, I took her and all the kids out of the store, library or wherever we were each and everytime any one of them acted out. And even on that occasion, I did not give in to her fit. I had no choice but to deal with it as well as the comments and glares from other shoppers. I fail to see what is so important in a mall that you can't remove your child from the premises for acting out.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Oct 11
You are so lucky because it isn't unusual no matter what kind of parent you are. The only thing to do that is right is ignore the glares and remove the child from the situation. Eventually the child will realize that they will not get what they want from throwing tantrums. Some kids get it quicker than others but it's important not to give in no matter what.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
That's the problem when a child throws a tantrum. The people glares at what you gonna do about it. I haven't encountered any throwing fit with my child at the mall. So, i don't really know how to deal with a child who does that.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
• Indonesia
18 Oct 11
I agree with you. I always told to my kid that not everything that he wanted he should always get. Especially when he want something that he didn't need. Because what he wants, not always safe for him. So far my child understand what i told to him. sometimes i like to give surprise to him, when he was being nice or when get an achievement.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
Yes, we should give our kid a reward in kind when he achieved something good. That way, he will be motivated to do good always in whatever he/she might be doing. It's best that at an early age, we have trained our child for doing good things and teaching what is good and bad.
@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
19 Oct 11
I understand that very well, although my children never fell to the floor and rolled around and cried and whined. They would fuss, but thats as far as they went. Also most children think that money grows on trees. I wish it did and I also wish I could be able to buy them whatever they wanted. But that is not possible. Like this Halloween, my son wanted a specific costume, I looked online and they were extremely expensive. So I decided to make it for him at a fraction of the cost. He is fine with that.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
That's nice of your son, inertia. Actually children can really be cajoled into following us. We just have to lovingly tell them so. No need for an authoritative voice or a threat. Simply talk to them while you hug them, and for sure they will follow.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
20 Oct 11
I am with you on that!
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
19 Oct 11
I agree but there are those times when they test your patience and bring you there. I know that very well also. But I always try and talk to my children. I never was a fan of punishment and never psychical punishment. I always believed that talking to the will make them understand what they are doing wrong.
• China
18 Oct 11
It seems to me that you had effective methods in instructing you daughter.In fact,parents who grant whatever their children request don't love their children but do them great harm.This way ,children won't know how hard the life is when they grow up.They may spend without restraint and once they have no money, maybe they commit offences against law and discipline.I don't exaggerate things to scare somebody,believe me.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
No you are not exaggerating, because that really happens in real life. There's one case here of a grown up man who killed somebody out of rage on the road. It was revealed that he was overly pampered by his mother, who brought her up singly. Sad, but now the man is languishing in jail but still the mother keeps denying that the son is at fault, when all evidence clearly points at her son.
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• China
19 Oct 11
What a case in point!when the man was a child,he was surely a spoilt and selfish child who had had too much attention.However his mother still refuses to come to her sense.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
20 Oct 11
The mother being a single parent at that time, tried to make up for the father figure that was missing, so that she spoiled the child until at this age.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
24 Oct 11
My 4 year old disabled son finds 'no' a harsh word so I use different language to say this. I try to distract his attention to something else that is more positive. I say to my kids we are looking at toys in order to make a Christmas wish list. I bought one of my son's first Christmas presents today: a rocket. It looked to me like the shop might run out of them. He will be getting the rocket on Christmas morning.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
25 Oct 11
At least, you can still control your sons from insisting what they like. Yes, actually diverting their attention to something else can also help the child from insisting what he wants.
@mimm45 (168)
• Australia
18 Oct 11
I used to be the person who raised her eyebrows to parents with kids like this. i'd think to myself "how can parents let their children grow up like this?", "didn't they teach their children manners?". Now i have kids of my own, I understand how the parents must have felt when their child/ren threw a tantrum. I totally understand and sympathize with them. It might be a bit late but to all the parents I'm sorry if I thought that way. With my kids now, there are times when I give in (if it's a little thing) and there are times when I really am very strict and no means NO.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
18 Oct 11
I think that as long as you clearly draw the line, when no is a NO, kids will sooner or later get it. They will soon learn that tantrums don't work all the time. Never mind what people think around you when it gets embarassing. As long as the kid learns his/her lesson. They can't throw tantrums everyday, anyway.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I think when i am in that situation, wherein the kid throws a tantrum, i will buy what he is crying about (if it's not that expensive). Upon getting home, i will reprimand him and never ever let him go to the mall with me unless he promises that he will not let me buy anything that takes his fancy.
• Southend-On-Sea, England
18 Oct 11
I saw something similar recently. A woman had 3 children with her, and one was pestering for some crisps that she knew the mother had in her bag. The mother refused, then the child began to have a tantrum. Instead of ignoring the child's negative response, the mother gave in and allowed the screaming child to have the crisps. Consequently, that child was 'rewarded' for bad behaviour rather than disciplined for it...was not taught the value of waiting for something, plus the other two children, seeing their sister get a treat for behaving badly, immediately did the same. Those kids are quite likely treated the same way over other issues, and probably will grow up with the fixed idea in their head that all they have to do to get what they want, is to behave as badly as they can. I can appreciate how difficult it is to enforce discipline, especially in a crowded public place, but it's so important for children to learn that they can't always have instant gratification, and that there are firm behavioural boundaries to stick within if they want an easy and successful life. It sounds as though what you do works, and if only other parents would do the same, we'd have far better behaved kids in our world.
• Southend-On-Sea, England
18 Oct 11
How true! If only all parents would adopt your philosophy.
@sql_cell (1427)
• Indonesia
8 Nov 11
My child, I rarely take to the mall. Because, I am afraid, my child will ask, something that was expensive. I also do not want, my son addicted to the mall.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
Actually my friend, you can bring him to the mall, once in a while, if you really have to buy something for him. But let him understand that he cannot ask for other things at the mall because you have no budget for it. Saying it lovingly to them will do the trick.
@junmae (1586)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
It's really good in setting up limit to our child. They must know that they will not get whatever they want and they should know there boundaries. As a mother, it is our responsibility to discipline our child. Like you, I often saw such child in the malls, stores, etc. They would beg their parents to buy this one but if the parents opted not to buy they would scream and lay down on the floor. As a parent of course you wanted to give everything to your child but it has a limit because what if they get use to it and you don't have money to buy the things they would ask? Your lucky to raise your child very well.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
27 Oct 11
You actually have to say NO even when you have the money and especially when they are given to throwing fits if they don't get what they want. One of my daughter's learned at a very young age to ask very nicely for something that she wanted. She always said, "Mom, if we have enough money, could I...?" If I said, NO, she was always so sweet about it. I'll tell you that I tried my best as we went around the store to budget it in and if I could then I'd go back and buy it for her. Had she thrown a fit at NO...I would not have even tried to budget it in.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
I totally agree with you sid! The more that the child will throw a tantrum, the more that i will say NO!
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
I agree, junmae. Actually, if a parent is determined to discipline their child it should start at their early age. Explain why this and that should be like this and that. Be firm in saying no to them. Do not be dissuaded with their cries and tantrums. Most of all, appreciate whatever good things they do always, be it by a hug and kiss with an accompanying vocal appreciation. That way, they will be motivated to do good always, including obeying you as a parent. And once in a while reward their good works, with something they like to have and that you can afford.
@Rosa26 (2618)
• United States
28 Nov 11
I feel happy for you that you could raise your children in a proper way, for me have being very difficult to raise my only son, he always wanted the things on his way,it doesn't matter what I did or say he wanted the things on his time not in my butget time,so he always had problems with me because whenever he behaved like that I gave him his punishment but it was like he didn't understand the message because next time he did it again.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
29 Nov 11
We started disciplining our child at a very early age. We talked to her first about us working hard in order to have money. In addition, that we have to budget our money so other things will not be compromised. That set her to grow well disciplined with regard to money.
@safety69 (592)
• Taiwan
19 Oct 11
I am very happy and proud with my kids, because they are so good, the same way You did , since very little I talked to them in a way that they could understand that not everytime we go out is for buying toys, when we are at the supermarket or any mall , I say very clear: NO, WE DIDNT COME TO BUY TOYS TODAY , WE ARE BUYING FOOD, I love when they say: OK MOM. thats it they dont say no more.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
20 Oct 11
We feel proud of ourselves as parents , for being able to raise our kids well.
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
I think that's the more proper way to raise a child. You can't give them everything they want. You shouldn't spoil them. Sometimes, you have to learn to say no to their requests. But it's only right to give the child a reward if she has done something good so she would continue to do good things.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
That's true. As parents we call the shots , so the children should obey us. Though, when we do that, we have to do it lovingly. Rewarding them for a good thing done is really very motivational on the part of the child.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
21 Oct 11
A reward cannot be in a meonetary of in form of a gift always. A simple , hug and kiss, while saying "you have done very well, my child" , could already be a big thing for the child.
• Philippines
20 Oct 11
It's really a motivation for them to do more good things when we give them rewards. Yeah you're right. When we tell them to stop doing something or when we're instructing them, we should tell it to them nicely.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
19 Oct 11
well, i don't have a child yet at the moment... but i had been raised by my parents to learn to listen to their authority and accept it when they say no to me... i just have to be patient... and i had been taught to earn to get what i want... they just don't serve it on a silver plate for me... there is no free lunch on this world... that is what i had been taught since i was a child... :-) take care and have a nice day...
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
Kudos to your parents for raising you up a good child . I can say that parents who are authoritative by nature can really command their child to behave. For my husband and i , we are strict yet we know when not to.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I have seen some kids act that way in the mall and glad my kids never did! Before leaving the house, i would always tell them what we are going to do there and what are we going to buy. I would tell them before hand that we do not have enough money for others things such as buying their toys..and glad that they do understand and like you they would also say" pag may money na kayo" sometimes me and hubby would laugh about it because at their young age, 7 and 4 they do understand and they know the value of money. So like you when we have extra money we would then buy them what they want or often times we would just treat them to Jollibee! My daughter never had a tantrum in the mall and glad that they know what the money is for
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I guess, it really depends on how the parents was able to teach their children, to behave. At an early age, we have to let them know that we work hard for earning our money so we just don't spend it with wanton. With that in their mind, they will have the sympathy for us, having to work hard for them , so they shouldn't be capricious.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
18 Oct 11
I'd like to think that I haven't raised my children like that, not to throw embarassing tantrums if they don't get what they want. Once in a while, we do get into an argument, but as long as I can reason with them (even with the 5-year old), they understand why somethings are just not bought. I do try and make it up with them. As long as they deserve it, and they are responsible enough for it, I always try to give it to them.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
In my opinion, it's just a matter of how we deliver our lines to the kid . Kids can be cajoled into behaving if we do it in a loving way. A promise of a reward if he/she behaves well in public could be a motivation. But make sure that when you promise, you do it.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
my hats off to you and your daughter for having more than just the ordinary mother-child relationship. it is quite admirable at a young age to realize such situation and the importance of understanding your financial situation, and most of all, i admire you're psychological approach to explain things of importance.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
I think, primarily i do that so she will not grow spoiled, her being our only child. And i am proud that even if she's an only child of ours, she grew up smart, God fearing and well mannered. I think it also helps that i always pray for God to help her grow to be a good child.
@stuckonu (726)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
That was a very kind child, reminds me of what my child used to be. LOLz. If you really train your son or daughter at an early age, they have the tendency to become a better and responsible young adults. My daughter used to say an almost similar line when we told her that we don't have money to buy her stuff, "Sa sweldo mo na lang po" (if it's your payday already). But lately, I notice that she is behaving a little naughtier, although not to the point of throwing tantrums inside the mall. Great training you've done! Kudos!
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
Actually, yes, my child is indeed a kind one, even when she was a kid. Like you , i was a kind one too, when i was small. I think, i took it after my parents to train my child to behave well at a very early age. Hence, like me , my child grew up to be a well behaved person. I have never ever seen my daughter when she was still a kid, throw a tantrum. She knows when to ask me for something and that is when it's payday.
@tamirs (1807)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
hi, I'm also a mother ,i have a 7 years old daughter.. What i do is,before going to malls or market i would talk to her and tell her " we will not go there to buy toys if you will ask me to buy you toys ill send you home right away..I'll tell her what are the things that we need to buy and sometimes give her the list so she'll know that the budget we have is only for the things or items listed in our list.. and if i did not have problem with us in the mall,ill tell her ill buy her a toy but she needs to choose one in the amount i have,say,ok i have here 50 pesos,you can look for a toy in this amount and we'll buy it.. sometimes she'll ask me,"why 50 only??". but when you explain why,she'll see reason and obey..
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I do that too. Given a budget, i would allot a portion for our snacks, when i know we will take long in the mall. But usually , before we go to the mall we will take our snacks at home, so she won't get hungry and ask for it at the mall. When the time comes that she likes something, i let her choose over the snacks or the toy. She would always choose the snack because she would reason, i still have lots of toys at home. So, your daughter really asks why PhP50.00 only!