it is hard to argue with males or guys

@jazel_juan (15747)
Philippines
January 4, 2012 7:33pm CST
well, i find it hard! i mean they can be stubborn at times..or just my husband i guess.. I was discussing to him what i think would be a good project this year. I told him that since my mom has this parcel of land in an area here, it is a good one to build a house of our own and since mom said i can use it..since my brother can have the house they are staying now.. so i go for it.. then i told hubby about it but he argued that i better put it in writing or else it might be taken away sooner or later when the area will look good already! But i told him my brother is not that way..there are only two of us, i do not think he will do that to me.. he may not be the best brother but he is my brother and i know he cares for me and would not be that selfish..but he my hubby argued it is for the future! But i told him i cannot have it in writing, my mom is still alive! It is like a bit awkward doing that plus i have her word.. the argument was hanging but hubby said we can still go for it.. but he didn't left his argument go down. hmp! guys are sooooo irritating at times. :P
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15 responses
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Jan 12
sorry but I think as your brother is also a male he would see the point your husband is making .it is sort of a business deal and your husband is making perfect sense to me,it has nothing to do with familykanyone would want this guarantee and i do not think it would anger either your brother or your mom.And your word sometimes is not enough in law. let your husband business thinking prevail as anyone who had done business selling land knows this is a good safeguard.Your husband might be hard to argue with but in this instance I think he ise right.
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@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
I guess in their point of view it is business and a serious one..and i guess i will go with what hubby will told me, i just do not know how to tell my mom about it.. i do not want her to feel i am taking advantage of it or something
@bjcelyn (108)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
I agree that it is hard to argue with guys. Maybe it is also because of their nature. They do not lower their pride especially when they think that they are right. well, most of them think that they are always right. but there are also guys whom you can easily talk with. They are more open. i just hope you and your husband can talk it over. stay calm and be patient. hehe. :)
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
It is the ego that speaks.. but yeah i agree he has more patience that me.lol
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
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@GardenGerty (157485)
• United States
5 Jan 12
In this case I think I will take your husband's side. It actually protects both you and your brother. You will promise he can have the house and he will promise you can have the land and you both will promise that as long as your mother lives it will be his job to take care of her and if he can't you will take care of her. It just makes everything clear to everyone. Your husband is a guy and thinks like a guy, and your brother may think like a guy as well, so your husband wants to protect all of you.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
Hmm ok so majority now says my hubby is right..so i guess i will take his word and see how we can work it out and tell my mom about the plans. In that way both parties will be happy and satisfied. It will be clear.
@franne32 (694)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
Although you have your point with regards to the trust you have with your brother, I think your husband also has his point. I have seen families who had trouble with their land because their parents haven't done it in writing and it's really a hassle for the individuals involved. It is not because of the trust, rather it's for legality purposes. Still, it's your choice.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
Yes but sometimes, i do not trust my own choices that is why ask my hubby's opinion and i am glad i did..atleast i get to see things in a different perspective
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
Males are basically like that jazel. They always want something that can assure them in case something untoward happens. Well, he has a point there. One never knows when the time comes that your brother might get into a needy situation and might as well do that. But since your mother is still alive, maybe you can lovingly tell her to put it into writing. Once she says yes, then you can do the document and have her sign. Then have it notarized. And to be fair, that of the house given to your brother, you can also initiate the documentation. That way, you brother will also be assured of his part. Parents do that so when they die, they are assured that the siblings will not quarrel. That's it. Your hubby will be assured.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
He does said that, that he does not want any problems to occur in the future. I am thinking of that too, dividing the land while my parents are still alive...to further avoid future problems.. it is a big piece of land actually that i am willing to share though lol 750 sq meters..
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
Wow, that's a big lot actually. You can have a house erected on 250 sq. meters and maybe sell the rest , so you could have money for business of your own. But maybe you can sell it, when it's already in your name and i think ask your parents if you can do that. They are still alive , so out of respect, you still ask them.
@asliah (11137)
• Philippines
18 Sep 12
hi, arguing to males,i think its hard to be because males are more on high pride so that its hard to argue with them,i observed that too with my partner,he doesnt like to be a looser when we argue and that is because of his pride.
@himzey (1321)
• India
6 Jan 12
Hi jazel juan Yeah I agree with you but what I think is your hubby doesn't want to have a favor from your mother but he is making excuses you cant oppose. Its sometime a matter of honor and dignity. Every man wants to provide his better half with all the luxuries he could but not at the cost of accepting a favor from his in-laws. Thats the reason for most of the fights; women dont hesitate at all in asking a favor from her side of the family and dont even consider discussing it. And men take it directly to their honor. It might seem a bit stubborn to you cause you, afterall you are directly related to them, but this is your life; what you both choose to be. Dont try to force him cause, for him it might feel like he is not capable enough to buy a new land for you. You are not living with your mother any more. You both are in search of a new meaning of life, so I believe you shouldn't rely on others, be it anybody. What keeps a relationship going is both you coming together to make a new beginning, without any interference from either sides of the family. Enjoy mylotting !!
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
5 Jan 12
Well, from what I read on your discussion, your husband got his point too, and there is nothing wrong with a written statement if your mom sincerely give it to your as a gift. Anyway, it is a gift from your mom, and it is free, I understood that you felt awkward to ask her put it in writing, plus it sounds like you won't trust your family at all. Why not hang on it, and gradually, you both can discuss a better way to protect that property from taken away.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
Yes, sometimes we are really hard to convinced or bring to believe if the point of argument is about property or money. And in your case, a parcel of land which your Mom verbally gives permission to you in case you have plans to use it. For me, I would agree with your husband's decision to have it in writing rather than verbal permission from your Mom. You may never know in the future what could happen.
@annavi23 (6522)
• Philippines
6 Jan 12
yes I agree! well, in our house, the only guy we had is our father and he can be irritating at times. plus he is already a senior citizen and he can be forgetful at times that i find irritating at times. He can also be like he only wants what he likes. It's like he don't like to hear our opinions sometimes. Which is really unfair and selfish for him, I think. I don't know what to do with him this times. There are also guys who just approves of what I am saying, like my ex boyfriend sometimes makes me think he's too good to be true. but I know, there are times he wants to fight, he just let me have it my way, i think. what can you say?
@alberello (4752)
• Italy
5 Jan 12
I can understand that the man or the male sometimes seems to override the decisions of the family. In many cases, do not hide the truth that it is this. But there are also exceptions. It is not my case, if only you knew me ..
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
5 Jan 12
I sure hope your brother is trustworthy. I've known people who were victims to relatives who take away their share on a business partnership. It's terrible! Men are very annoying at times. Your husband sounds like he really cares about you despite everything. On the matter about the writing thing, i think it's a good idea. Don't ignore this because you think it's awkward to do it with your family. There's nothing wrong with it, you have no reason to feel awkward about it.
• India
5 Jan 12
some times tough and sometimes irritaing. beacause they are always want to dominate the discussion and they can cost anything to win.
@gcg_0915 (43)
12 Feb 12
sometimes it is really difficult to argue with them coz they've got more pride than us. sometimes it also depends upon the person and the argument.
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
5 Jan 12
I feel for you. Guys can be extremely hard to argue with. They tend to be know it alls and with that male ego of theirs it is difficult to ever break through with your point of view. Just try to be patient and explain your side and hopefully your husband will break down and realize it isn't worth pursuing or causing hurt feelings over. He is not really wrong per se--without it being in writing anything can happen. But you know your family and how trustworthy they are. You know in your heart if their is any real threat in place or just the hypothetical one your husband imagines. Try to reason with him and if he insists, you might have to talk to your family about it. I cringe thinking about that, because in my family that would be considered quite an insult. To question their integrity and all, but maybe your family isn't that sensitive and would be more understanding. Good luck!