Can't Help Thinking Money Spent On The Olympics Couldn't Help The Poor Instead

@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
January 4, 2012 7:35pm CST
I have mixed feelings about the upcoming Olympics. Yes, it's going to be great for London (and a marvellous spectacle) but what about the rest of the UK? It does make me wonder, especially when I read articles like this.. http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/get-involved/campaigns/no-child-left-in-the-cold ..and yes, I HAVE signed the petition as no child should have to freeze in their own home. The Energy Companies should be ashamed of themselves. I guess it's the same everywhere isn't it? Not just the UK.
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• Pamplona, Spain
6 Jan 12
Hiya Janey, As such we don´t have heating allowances here never have done. Lots of children here suffer the cold and it does get very cold believe me. Mostly at Night and first thing in the Morning is the first bout of cold to get over so you have to keep moving and put extra clothing on. We are in a place that does not have Central Heating in yet. No Child should have to suffer the cold nor the elderly People either. I hope the Olympics gives much Employment to People in England and all over. Will try to watch them if I can get to not really sure what the coverage will be from here yet.xxx
• Pamplona, Spain
7 Jan 12
Hiya Janey, Me too I am normally an optimist always have been. I see what it has to do with the Olmypics the money bit because they tend to be too elaborate and spend too much money on the wrong thing when it could go to help other people and other projects as well. Not biased about the Medals just by taking part in the Olympics you surely already have to be a Champion we should be proud of those who are taking part even if they come last because it took them a lot of effort to get there I know because I used to live next Door well almost should I say corner to corner with a former British Athlete I used to let her win all the Races lol. She is still probably training Athletes I should imagine she is in London I imagine at least. I get fed up of hearing bad Commentators when the Olympics are on so I hope they are decent and not just concentrating on would be Gold Medalists although that is very normal but hey what about the middle Guy? The ones who almost get there? Well here´s hoping that it all goes well and everyone has something to take their minds off the general topic "there is no money" lol.xxx
• Pamplona, Spain
15 Jan 12
Hiya Janey, Yes some Commentators spoil everything they just never say the right thing lol. I used to love hearing Chris Howarth and Simon Reed when they were both together commentating on the European Skating Championship and all those kind of things. David Duffield is a great Bike Race Commentator as well you will never keep hearing about Indurain for the whole of the Race he always mentions the small fry you know the little Guy who always works hard in the background to help the big guys going same as the Footballers I suppose too. I remember watching Jane and Chris in that famous Olympics medal thing and the British Commentator was awful he said there you have them Jane and Chris and that was it lol I thought I would love to get paid just for saying that. I don´t know those Commentators at all but the two Women that are together commentating on the Women Gymnasts they are quite terrible at pulling People apart. I don´t know their names but I would never hire them they are like a bucket of cold water on anyone. See what you about the other Commentator what does he do drone on and on lol? Oh yes they do that here too they have just run a gruelling Race and are panting away with tongue almost on the Floor and they ask them about their personal life as if you can think about that just at that moment. I like watching most Sports and will make an effort to watch all of the Olympics I can yesterday two Spaniards got a much deserved Silver Medal in the Gymnasts thing and that was in London but to do with the Worlds. My favourite is Gervasio de Foe lol so handsome too but I don´t think that he will be there this time more like he will be training someone. Spanish Commentators I don´t even listen to their drone as they never really say anything constructive either. Well life is full of things like that if only the Commentators could be sort of like Jimmy Saville style is that asking too much do you think? xxx
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
7 Jan 12
I'm normally an optimist and I guess the article on the Save the Children website upset me a bit. That said, I'm hoping for an Olympics to remember and one that gives the young (especially) something to cheer about..especially if we win loads of medals. Fat chance!
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• China
5 Jan 12
I still can't open the link,so I have no idea what the Energy Companies have done.As to money spent on the Olympics,I think they can't see their way to save expense for the poor.They can spend money like water so that they are able to do other countries down in this respect.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
Shame you can't open the link. Basically, it shows a family sitting indoors with the kids wearing hats and scarves, sitting in front of an electric fire for half an hour at a time because the parents can't afford it for longer than that. They're also shown huddled on the settee with a blanket over them for warmth. Save the Children have a campaign to try to stop families like these from descending into what is called Fuel Poverty. These are people who don't earn enough to pay their energy bills.
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• China
6 Jan 12
My thought can't help going out to those children.They increased the price of energy once and again and don't care whether the people who earn the minimum live or die.Thank you for sharing it with me,I first hear Fuel Poverty.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
5 Jan 12
My take would be that the Olympics,as a showcase event,has and will be attracting more tourism and investment money to the country,which can then be used in social needs programme budgeting by the government.There would also be spinoff money generated from people coming to the UK for the events,and maybe taking in some other regions or attractions while they're staying here...
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
5 Jan 12
Slightly OT from the Olympics in London,but I was listening to a segment of a radio show where the presenter had gone to Haiti as part of a Charity initiative to help with the disaster relief work there,and someone had phoned in to raise the point would the money raised by the charity not have been of more use sent directly to the country to be used by and for the locals,rather than using it to fly in and support foreigners to do the work? It was maintained in response that local infrastructure had been wiped out,that there was no coherent organisation in place to make best use of the relief funds,so that sending tradespeople and specialists and paying for security was the best way to help on the ground..and the argument kept going around and around from there..
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
That's the optimistic view of it and I do hope it happens.
@shaggin (71663)
• United States
7 Jan 12
Well I'm not really sure what the olympics has to do with people not having heat for their homes. In the united states there are thankfully a lot of assitance out there for needy people. I get assistance for my oil I get about $1000 of free oil a year through the programs. It costs about $3000 a year to heat my home. Now there are so many things that money is spent unnecessarily on that could be used to help people who are low income etc... like sending people to the moon it really doesnt help us that much but costs millions of dollars while millions of people around the world are starving.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
15 Jan 12
Man has set foot on the Moon? I doubt that. It was filmed in a studio wasn't it?
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Jan 12
hi Janey really its not as we have plans by both gas company and the power company for lower rates for people who rento or own their home and cannot afford the high energy costs. we got a lower rate on our power and it sure did help as we are in the US in California.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
According to my Mum (who reads the newspapers, I don't bother) even the lowest energy tariff is too high so that needs to be addressed. I reckon they should ditch the VAT as that makes a massive difference to bills.
6 Jan 12
VAT is an EC tax that was imposed after we made the mistake of joining. It replaced the previous purchace tax which was levied at a much lower rate. That in itself caused a big instant rise in the cost of living. Now we are paying VAT at 17% on practically everything, (not energy though) and I remember when that rate of VAT was only levied on "luxury" items. Apparently, almost everything is now a luxury item!
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
5 Jan 12
The winter olympics was just around here a couple of years ago. And the people had the same issues. There were a lot of protests specially when it was revealed how much was being spent just for security alone. Money that could have helped a lot of poor people instead. If the private companies that funded most of the olympic expenses would exert the same zeal in helping the children, then we wouldn't have these thoughts.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
I agree. I don't want to be a kiljoy and actually WANT the Olympics to fail as we're usually good at organising these things (EURO 96 was a tremendous success at the time) and if it brings people together I'm in favour of that BUT the lavish opening and closing ceremonies are there for the rich and they often make me cringe. I cannot understand why they're so popular. I'd much rather watch Usane Bolt win his 100m Gold which he's bound to do..unless he's disqualified..not for the first time lol.
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@jwfarrimond (4473)
5 Jan 12
I've not got mixed feelings about it - I think that its a complete waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. The whole business reminds me of the tactic employed by the Roman Emperors. If the populace seemed likely to riot, put on some games in the circus to take their mind off their problems. Same old thing.... I know one thing, London will be the place to avoid like the plague this summer - it'll be jam - packed and gridlocked. London's transport infrastructure struggles to cope on a normal day - imagine what it'll be like when all the extra people go flooding in. I pity those people who have to get into London on a daily basis in order to get to work. It's going to be ten times more difficult for them when this circus is in full swing.
6 Jan 12
Thats my plan - go camping in Scotland or something like that a long way away from any TV
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
6 Jan 12
If it were me I'd take a fortnight off but I guess not everyone will be able to do that as it's not feasible. Mind you, a fair few of them don't live in London anyway.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
14 Jan 12
I agree that it seems to be a huge waste of money spent on the Olympic gamers and lots of it totally unnecessary and wasteful. The amount of money generated by all sport is totally obscene. There is an incredible amount of financial waste in all sectors of government ion my opinion...especially also the military.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
15 Jan 12
Aah yes, the military. Armed to the back teeth..oh, and we arm other nations too. How nice!
• Adelaide, Australia
15 Jan 12
Too true! We just bought one of your lovely ships off you Janey a few weeks ago for $100000000! That oughta make a difference!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
5 Jan 12
Hi Janey, I think it is like that everywhere. I'm in the States and the government cut some of the funding for fuel assistance by quite a bit and so many families did not get it or got very little. My daughter is always struggling with keeping her place warm. She does not qualify for help but her and her boyfriend also do not have the money to order fuel as they only deliver if you are ordering a certain amount. They put diesel in the tank every other day. I worry all the time about them and am glad that I'm just down the road from her so if they run out in the night, she can just come over.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
5 Jan 12
I know. Her boyfriends mother would not go out of her way one bit to help them out and she has far more money than I do.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
7 Jan 12
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
That's so kind of you to help them out like that but - like you said, you're living nearby..still, not everyone would do it, not even for family. To be honest, I wish the Millennium had never arrived..it's all gone downhill since 2000!
• United States
5 Jan 12
That's so awful. But I can say I know the feeling as well. We keep our heat on a low temp (despite what my hubby thinks we can afford as he doesn't do the bills) because we can't have pipes bursting and come down with an illness because of no heat. They do have heat assistance here in WI however, it's a sum of around 200-300 USD credited to your account for a heating season IF you qualify. Sadly that's about one months worth of heat what about the other months? Thankfully they do have a law here that they cannot shut off your power from late november til around mid april no matter what and by that point you are almost caught up or have gotten your tax refund back and brought your bill to current. It's sad but that's how life is. I agree with how the child in the article can have an asmatic flare up when it's too cold in the house. My younger two are like that when they step into a cold room sometimes they start coughing like mad, even air conditioning in summer if it's too cold is too much for them at times. Money is always wasted on such things. Other than to bring tourists to places what other use is holding these events?
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@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
5 Jan 12
Hello Janey. I think you shouldn't condemn the Olympics considering the amounts spent in soccer are astronomical by comparison. Just one player there can get millions of dollars in salary a year and not to mention the amounts spent by clubs on transfers. You can imagine that things are worse outside the UK, as the UK is a developed country while other European countries are only developing countries be them in the European Union or not.
6 Jan 12
Janey, don't you know, that is what professional sport is and always has been about - money. YOUR money going into THEIR pockets! And what do you get in return? Well, nothing really.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
Hello! I agree that too much money is spent on the football but that's only in the top tier..and we have Sky to thank for that (gits) lol. In actual fact, a couple of players here who aren't getting what they want have gone to CHINA and it's obvious they've gone for the money as that country is rich beyond compare. Eventually, all our clubs will be bought with Chinese money and when that day comes we may as well forget our footballing heritage. We invented the game and it's being turned into one HUGE business. It sucks, quite frankly!
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@vandana7 (98944)
• India
5 Jan 12
Janey sweetie..we do think alike..I was grumbling about something like that ... I mean we are a poor nation (supposedly). Half our population lives in less than $1000 per annum. Do we need those high speed two wheelers and four wheelers? Of course not. Do we need to have the infrastructure for hosting world class car races here? Of course not. The rich who enjoy such sport are less than 10 percent of the population. Is it justified to spend that much on such things then? Of course not. But here is another view. Olympics, and Asian Games ...they provide employment to many people while the preparations are on, and even subsequently, at least for a while. In our country, where jobs are truly like needle in the haystack, that is so desirable. Employed people do not spend time talking politics, and starting any anti government agitations. Nor do they or their families turn terrorist (presumably). So any form of employment is welcome.
6 Jan 12
I think that a lot of the work created is short term which will only last as long as the event itself. That is no use at all.
@vandana7 (98944)
• India
6 Jan 12
Yeah, it is short term.. But at least, the money trickles down to the levels where it should go instead of ending in the pockets of some rich politician. You know what we did Janey. We let the politician and his bunch of croonies complete the job. We held the event successfully. Immediately after everybody left, we started investigation on the politician, and we sent him behind the bars for irregularities, which are actually pretty normal out here.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
6 Jan 12
What amazingly wise words you've said there. I've liked the fact you've thought of each side, so to speak. You're right about people in work not complaining as it's hard to find jobs here too..and if the Olympic legacy is employment for more people that would be brilliant. Let's hope it lasts.
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
5 Jan 12
I think the money generated by the Olympics will far surpass the money spent by the UK on staging the Games. Perhaps a percentage of that money should be allocated to helping the poor.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
Fair point but don't you think the security costs are a tad over-the-top? It's bound to put people off from exploring what London has to offer. I also think the opening and closing ceremonies are a waste of time..and they should let the locals in for free for those anyway, not the VIPS.
• United States
5 Jan 12
Oh yeah, the opening and closing ceremonies are all about pomp and circumstance and there is probably plenty of pressure on 'outdoing' the previous Olympics. As far as security, I am sure the costs are waaay over the top, not just a tad. But in this day and age, I really don't think you can be too careful. The Olympics are, and have been in the past, a perfect target for attacks (to wit: Munich, Atlanta). I guess it depends on how you look at it. The Olympics are designed to showcase the best amateur athletes the world has to offer. These young people have dedicated their lives to train for that magic moment. I remember the disappointment for many athletes when it was decided to boycott the Moscow Olympics in 1980. For many of them, what they had trained for all their lives was all for naught. Unfortunately the Olympics have been going on for centuries with poverty existing all around in the world.
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@FluxNL (503)
• Netherlands
5 Jan 12
Yes I have mixed feelings too. Just like the World Championship Soccer in South Africa, those stadions are now 'empty'. They were only build for the world championship and nothing else. Africa is poor and those stadiums are such a waste of money if you ask me. The only difference is that the UK is not poor, but also have mixed feelings about this. At the world there are people dieing by starvation and we are holding the Olympic Games. Why don't we give the money to the poor and help each other.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
I know there was a big hoo-hah over Wembley and whether or not that should've had a running track but it was deemed it should be primarily a football/rugby stadium. The economic downturn has happened since then and the new Olympic Stadium cost a fortune and over-run its budget. I only hope that whoever uses it after the Olympics runs it well, otherwise it will be another Millennium Dome..a venue that should've been the O2 Arena from the start!
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
5 Jan 12
yup, i have to agree with you. here in ontario (Canada) the electric company is not allowed by law to turn someone's power or heat off during the winter due to lack of payment.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
I'm not too sure of the law here (I shall have to research it sometime) but I should imagine we have the same set-up. I'm only thankful that there hasn't been a Big Freeze like last year.
@BarBaraPrz (45579)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
5 Jan 12
Here's some more depressing news: As of January 3rd (or maybe the 4th, I've lost the link) the top CEOs etc. here in Canada have already made themselves the average Canadian's yearly income ($44,000 or so).
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
What, you mean in 3 or 4 days? Wow, that's obscene and, to be honest, it's the same here. Many people get upset about it but, unfortunately, nothing gets done. You do get the odd CEO who forgoes his salary for a year but they're not likely to go hungry anytime soon.
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@derek_a (10874)
5 Jan 12
I agree with you there Janey. I may be biased because I am not a great fan of sports anyway, but to me, with the state the world is at the moment, to spend all this money on Olympics sounds crazy. If everything else was taken care of first, then OK, it is good for UK. _Derek
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
It's a shame it can't be organised like EURO 96. I know in that instance it was only England that benefited BUT the Olympics is a UK thing (and it's a very small country), therefore, why can't some sports be shared? I'm not actually going to the Olympics but I've said many times that I love the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff. Wouldn't it be marvellous if all the other countries in the UK benefited AT THE TIME? It's just that London won the bid, therefore that's where it has to be staged (apart from the sailing) and I can't help thinking everyone else is going to miss out. Wow, I'm a radical thinker at times!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Jan 12
Things are not so good here either...
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
I believe so. I do try to watch American news channels whenever I can in order to educate myself although Fox News saying they're "Fair and Balanced" is a term that does make me laugh to be honest..although our own BBC News is a tad left-wing!
@webearn99 (1742)
• India
5 Jan 12
Think of it this way, all the activities for the Olympics are going to generate employment. It is not for the glory of hosting an event that countries vie with each other. It is the revenue generation. Hopefully, some of the poorer sections of the society will get employment which will last beyond the Olympics, and they should be able to afford the heating costs. Power companies will have a large slice of the cake where this event is concerned. That should drive them to subsidize the heating costs of the lesser privileged. The Government on its part should make it conditional for the power companies. I hope this happens.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
5 Jan 12
I do too.