A reason for a marriage to fail?

United States
January 25, 2012 10:32am CST
The reason? Women think men will change and they don't and Men think women won't change and they do.I heard this on a t.v. show and I thought Wow! That maybe it. But these days I think it isn't gender specific. There are as many women who don't change and men who Do change. But changing is the key . I guess if one partner changes and the other does not , the marriage does end. your thoughts.
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@rhodzptc (1317)
• Philippines
25 Jan 12
I have been in a relationship for 7 years now but not yet married you know things really changes and even people do they adjust in time but in a relationship no matter it change that will always depend on how they would handle the situation and adopt with the changes to make it work all through the end.
@tammytwo (4298)
• United States
4 Feb 12
And sadly, most relationships change after marriage. Once the couple has found they have won each other over they seem to relax and quit trying to impress the other. Just because you have won that person's heart and they have decided to be with you forever that is never a reason to quit trying to show them how much they mean to you. I agree with you that relationships do change and those in it must adapt to the changes to make it last.
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• United States
4 Feb 12
That's it Tammytwo, they think the wooing is over , they don't have to work at keeping things together. So they start to take each other for granted.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
25 Jan 12
I think what you heard on TV is absolutely true. Women get with men because they promise to change to "become the man she dreams of." Men get with women because they promise they'll never change - mentally, physically, or whatever - and then, sure enough, the women end up changing! Change is so constant; I'd be scared to promise someone I'd never change. Certain things I'll never bend on, but in general, I think individuals are always growing. Life is a walk, a run, if you will. It's not a stand-still kind of thing. Having said all of that, I don't think a woman should marry a man with the hopes of him changing once they're married. That never works! Once they're married, he has no incentive to change anyway because he's already got the girl! As I explained earlier, it's easy for a woman to say the words and promise her man she'll never change once they're married, but sure enough, down the road, it happens. Like you, I don't think the issue is gender-based at all. It happens to all of us. I think the main issue is that people need to stop giving themselves reasons for their marriages to fail. I know divorce is tough, but every couple looks at it as a "way out." If this thing doesn't work out, they can always get out of it. Is divorce too easy? Maybe. Perhaps that's why couples don't think twice before jumping into a marriage. Anyway, to answer you last question...my thoughts on why the marriage ends...yes, I think it could be because one spouse changes, and the other does not. Naturally, that causes them to grow apart. I also think people get lazy. They stop learning about one another. They stop caring for one another. It's selfishness. It's easier to keep doing the annoying thing your spouse hates when it'd really be worth it to figure out and listen to what s/he prefers. I know this because I've done it, and I see it. I'm lazy in my marriage sometimes. I know what my husband loves and hates, but not always do I act on it. I know he'll stay with me no matter what because he's patient. I'm grateful for that, but I don't need to take advantage of it. Like anything, marriage takes maintenance. You'd be surprised at what a little hand-written "love note" left in my hubby's jacket pocket does once he finds it...that gives him such a boost. Can't tell you the last time I've done that, but I know he loves it! I think along with all of this, marriage is one of those things that gets pushed to the side when people get busy. People work harder at work than they do at their own marriages. They aren't content and don't realize what they have waiting at home for them. Some people cheat; it's sad. I think if you're in a committed relationship, you should be committed to your partner. It's not fair to them if you look outside that realm, if you know what I mean. I don't think cheating or changing/not changing is the main issue as to why marriages fail. Those are only some of the results of the deeper-lying issue. The biggest thing is laziness and lack of commitment/honesty. Marriages are expected to work without any maintenance, but that's not how it goes. It's really sad how spouses and partners are thrown away or given up like possessions. These are people with lives and feelings and hopes and dreams; not something that can be thrown away or tossed out. Really great point made here and excellent discussion, my friend!
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• United States
26 Jan 12
I never understood the mentality " I can change him" My guy is perfect As is! No changes needed! If I were forced to marry I would promise Once I become a wife I would never change. The Friendship , if there were one, would be gone, and the lover would be gone. All he would see is the wife.Period. And once married , the only " way Out" is for him to kill me unless I kill him first. For me I would stop caring once I was deemed the wife. so I assume soon there would be a need for a mistress. This is why I will never marry. I prefer to be happy. I prefer that once he "out grows me" , since I am one that stands still , never " walks" Or is on that bicycle, he can just leave.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
26 Jan 12
"I never understood the mentality 'I can change him'" - me neither! When I heard those words out of a girl's mouth, I knew it as all downhill from there. Guys must think more like you; they are who they are, and if the girl doesn't like it she can leave! I wish I'd thought more like this as a young girl. Instead of being confident in who I was (even though half the time I spent figuring that out!), I'd worry about why the guys didn't like me and what was wrong with me. If I'd only known...there was nothing wrong with me! This was the way I was meant to be, and the right man would come along someday and sweep me off my feet. Guess what? He most certainly did! And the timing couldn't have been more perfect. But I think women should think more like you. I do so now, but before would've given me the confidence in myself that I needed...I had to learn and gain that confidence the hard way. I'm glad your happy and content in who you are. There's nothing wrong with that, and your man loves you for it! I also (as always) appreciate your honesty with yourself and others that you make a great girlfriend, but a horrible wife. Some people might come back and say, "You haven't been a wife so you don't know!" But why risk it if it's at the cost of divorce and losing the one you love when things are working just fine now? If you don't mind my asking...how long have you and your man been together? My hubby and I started dating in 2004, but we met in 2003, so we've known each other a little over 9 years, and we've actually been together going on 8 years this-coming summer. Time flies! July 2012, we'll celebrate our 3-year wedding anniversary. I know ours is what most people would call a "young" and "new" marriage, but it certainly works for us. However, you don't just buy the shoes (marriage) because everyone says they're cute; you have to buy the pair that fits you and is something you like lol. Sorry...I might be out of good analogies today because it's almost the end of my workday, but that's the best I could do for now! Again, great discussion. I love the thought-provokers!
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• United States
7 Feb 12
" If you be yourself, there's a guy out there who will love you because of it." If I had heard that and believed it then my guy saying he fell for me wouldn't have come as a surprise! But I was always certain no one would find me attractive so I never tried. I preferred to be one of the boys . I never thought I should throw myself at anyone Or that a guy would try to romance me. Thankfully my guy took it real slow. He convinced me he saw me as a woman not just a gal pal. So in a way I never got the message about dressing for a man and I'm glad.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
25 Jan 12
I think the main reason marriages fail is lack of commitment. Of course people change over time! That's life. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with anyone who didn't change, grow, mature, find new interests and so on. A mature person should realize that they as well as others do change, but if you're going to marry, you have to commit to living through those changes. Commitment is something people don't seem to understand any more, so it's no wonder that the divorce rate is so high.
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• United States
26 Jan 12
Peavey, I will never be mature because I believe many Never change. And I rather have a lifetime of what other deem " fleeting" because I will never marry the man I love Why? Because once I marry I Will have to change. JJ4Ever, I am the stubborn one who rather break than bend , especially if this means not being true to myself. The one thing I do know is a loving boyfriend can and with me will change until a husband who no one could live with. That is why I will never marry. I lack the commitment I guess. I will not commit myself to a role where I can Never do what I want Ever. Where I'm at war , Always. So I guess I will just remain immature in a pointless relationship. Pointless because I will never marry.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Sarah, I have to chuckle because I know you, and I know that while you are stubborn and set in your ways (it's a good thing; people know what to expect!), you're not immature and you're not uncommitted. What you have with your man is real and meaningful, and it has depth and commitment. The fact that you won't change is because you don't have to. Your man loves you for who you are. If you did change, you probably wouldn't have found each other in the first place! My point made above is that once a couple enters into a marriage, if they need to change for each other (more in a sense of growth, not change because the other person expects/requests it), it's selfish and stubborn for them not to do whatever is needed to nurture and help the relationship grow. In some cases, maybe change and growth is not always necessary because the marriage just "works." That's good too. What you and your man have is rare, but wonderful. My hubby and I are definitely blessed to have a great marriage as well, but I know that's not a common thing.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
25 Jan 12
I think hand-in-hand with commitment is honesty. I agree with you that commitment is one of the main ingredients in a healthy and lasting relationship. You can have commitment without marriage, but marriage really is the ultimate commitment to a partner (because divorce is so devastating and final). If you realize from the beginning that change is constant, and your spouse is no different, then it's not as surprising when it happens. Change is a fact of life; how you as a couple adjust to it is another story. I've heard so many marriage horror stories that these young couples jumped into marriage being so in love and so determined that it was going to work forever. Then only a couple years down the road, they can't stand the sight of one another and are going through a horrible divorce. My girlfriends who've gone through it say the same thing...they're surprised at how they "grew apart" or how "he's not the man I married." I view the whole thing like this, if you and your spouse grow apart, who's the one being stubborn and standing still? A relationship is about growing together and going through the process as a united couple. It's in motion. If you're standing still, and your spouse is moving and growing, of course you're going to grow apart! The gap between the two will only grow bigger. You can't expect things to "just work" because they did when you first got married or got together. Same thing is true with an old car. If you don't maintain it and repair it when it needs these things, it's going to die on you before you know it. Any relationship needs to be maintained, cared for, paid attention to. Without these things to nurture it, it will die just like the car! Thanks for your words of wisdom.
• Greece
25 Jan 12
We all change, the thing is to be happy. If you don't pay attention to your relationship, it will fail. You have to try everyday to be a good spouse, don't take anything for granted and build a strong and meaningful relationship. Treat your partner like you just got together, have romance, respect and understanding. The problem is people get selfish and forget what it's like to be a good husband/wife.
• United States
26 Jan 12
Christine, " people Get selfish"? I believe people are selfish in the first place. It is easy to conceal while you date but once you marry , the true colors come out . And not everyone changes. JJ4Ever, Hi Girl! " got together in love and commonality only to fail and end up in divorce"? I never thought love should be mixed with marriage Because it is too precious and it is bound to be destroyed.I never wanted to marry Ever. I assume these days with so many children of divorce coming of age , they feel the same way I do. For the record , my mom and dad were married for 35 years! They seemed happy to me . I just knew this was not meant for me.
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• India
25 Jan 12
In marriage if thinking doesn't match, then chance is necessary for balancing life. Sit with your partner and talk freely about changes and dislikes. Try to fix it with discussion. If you both are able to change yourself little bit, that would be good for your life. Change is not a key, talking freely and discussing about problems is key. We have to do some adjustment to balance life. Life is like riding a bicycle - in order to keep your balance, you must keep moving. - Albert Einstein.
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• United States
26 Jan 12
Allenwebstar, if life is like riding a bicycle I have fallen off when I was about 7 and I never got back on. And I should have ended things permantly soon after age 7 and get it over with. To you both, If I could talk freely to a husband , I wouldn't marry him. I have this with my guy. We are best friends . There is no way in hell I'm ruining this with marriage. To me Marriage is a war of wills. Why would I Want to tip off the enemey by opening up, give him something he can use.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
25 Jan 12
Communication is another key to nurturing the marriage relationship. If you don't communicate with your spouse or partner, then you don't know what they like and dislike; you don't know how their day went or what's important to them. You're right - communication is a necessity!
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Agreed - if things are working perfectly for you now, and you and your man have all you could possibly desire out the relationship, why change it? Why take a chance at ruining what you have?
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• Philippines
25 Jan 12
There's a various reason why a marriage fail. Every reason depends on the couple. One of the main factor is that they forgot what's their priorities. A marriage is not just about you love each other but it's a new chapter in our life wherein we our going to be responsible enough to build our own family.
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• United States
26 Jan 12
Craziestqueenever, so the only reason to marry is to have children. Thank G-d I will never marry. JJ4Ever, There are couples who get to know each other Very well, live together Before they marry for many years and once they marry , the relationship ends in 6 months. While two strangers can marry and last a lifetime! It all depends on what your definition of marriage is and does it match your partner's. Then you both have to Want to remain in the marriage.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
26 Jan 12
Yes, I've seen this too. A couple lives together, and the minute they decide to marry, the relationship goes downhill from there. It's like once they agree to get married, they couldn't agree on anything else since! I've heard that's because they lived together first...and then decided to marry. It removed the "mystery" from the relationship and didn't give them a reason to get married. I figure, if you already live together, why get married? You already have everything and know everything about that person anyway. At that point, marriage is just a formality and a way to share the same last name...it becomes legal on paper. Whereas, if you don't live together and wait till you're married (similar to what my husband and I did), then you have something to look forward to once you get married - living together, growing together, getting to know one another on a deeper level. I think a relationship can work either way, but like you said, it depends on the couple and their individual personalities, wants, likenesses, etc. One thing is clear, both people definitely have to want to stay in the marriage or any relationship, for that matter, or it simply will not work. Regardless of what form it comes in, love is a great thing to find and to have!
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
25 Jan 12
This is a great thing to take into consideration. Every couple and individual is different, so no two divorced couples will have the exact same reason as to why the marriage didn't work. However, I think many of the factors leading up to each divorce are similar. For instance, couples can become lazy, and they grow apart because they no longer listen to one another, spend time together, etc. They're too busy for each other, and so on. It can also be a lack of communication and even dishonesty. Whatever the reason, divorce is sad and harmful, whether children are involved or not. I think each couple should thing long and hard before getting married, and spend lots of time getting to know each other first.
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
26 Jan 12
Hey Sarah... Change is the only constant thing, ever.. If the fact is accepted by everyone then there will be less problems in marriages... LOL... I am dreaming, ain't I? I am so tired today. Have travelled the whole day and now working the whole night... LOL About the issue at hand, I would say, we should accept that things are going to different someday... :) Thank you... Take care...
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
27 Jan 12
'Change is the Constant thing', is a wise saying Sarah.. It doesn't have to be true all the time.. Look at me, I have not changed for years, and I am not sure if i'll ever change.. What I wanted to say was, we should accept changes if they happen in our dear ones... :) Take care...
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• United States
27 Jan 12
I say no. There are some changes I will not accept Or will make me the person he wouldn't want anymore.
• United States
26 Jan 12
Everything around me changes but I do not. I used to think because Everyone said you Must change and I refuse to I Should Just die and get it over with. But now I Know there are many of us who do not change. So if this means my guy will leave me , so be it. If it means I will lose everything , so be it! If change is constant , then I'm just a fleeting thing , a nothing . But that is ok.
• Southend-On-Sea, England
26 Jan 12
I suppose it depends on whether either party can cope with how the other one changes, or whether if both change, it's in the same direction or not, or if in different directions, one that is harmonious to both parties. If they grow too far apart, say with one changing and the other not, or both changing but too far apart, then the marriage will probably fail. I don't know how this stands in other parts of the world, but I notice that where I live, in more recent years, couples seem to expend all of their hopes, dreams and energies into just the wedding day and lose sight of what comes afterwards - so, often have problems settling into domestic life together. It's almost as if they are marrying just to dress up, have a party and a honeymoon in some exotic location, feeling as though that will be enough to sustain their relationship for a lifetime.
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• United States
26 Jan 12
No worries, it happens to me all the time!
• United States
26 Jan 12
It is like the bride wants her dream wedding and didn't even think about the marriage. It happens here too. Case in point Kim Kardashian.She met her beau, they fell in love and planned to marry. They had the posh wedding and then after ward they found out that they didn't communicate well and wanted different things so 72 days later , they are getting a divorce.
• Southend-On-Sea, England
26 Jan 12
Sorry...my posting came out twice!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
25 Jan 12
I think the show makes sense but I also agree that it might not be so gender specific. Change is inevitable but I think they key is that the couple change together and continue to share their lives with each other. It's the growing apart that seems to be a big problem too. I think that a marriage based on thinking the other should or will change is one that is pretty much doomed from the start. Especially if the person doesn't know from the git go that they are expected to do so.
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• United States
26 Jan 12
Or worse the bait and switch that I would pull. I'm the best girlfriend but I would be a terrible wife. Any guy who Needs to marry would assume I would be Just as nice as his wife Wrong! Once forced to marry , the evil b!tch would come out! this is ever worse.That is why I used to say I should just skip a step and marry someone I hate!
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• India
3 Feb 12
Marriage is an unique concept, it needs lot of adjustments from both the guy and the girl, they should have consideration for each other, that is really life, failure in understanding cause havoc's when a guy has his marriage, he marries a girl, but a girl marries a whole family lol
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• United States
3 Feb 12
Not here in the States. A man marries a woman and a woman marries a man. If his family doesn't like her, then mostly two things happen,either the son breaks ties with the family or... there is a feud. The wife doesn't go over to their house. She tries to keep him From his family.
@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
27 Jan 12
I agree. In my case it was the evil ex who changed. I am the same person I always was. And she knew that going in. So, if she was expecting someone else, she is the @ss. But mine ended for more then just that. And I am not in the mood to go into everything. Hey Now.
• United States
27 Jan 12
Hey Now! I know as much as I Need to know. If you Ever want to tell me more , send me an email. Nosy I am not my twin. I'm just glad you didn't change and T loves As Is!
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• United States
1 Feb 12
No rush!
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
31 Jan 12
I know you're not nosey. And I thank you for saying what you said. I know T loves me for me and thats enough. One of these days I will explain everything. Hey Now!
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• Philippines
27 Jan 12
I have been married for almost 15 years. My husband and I will celebrate our 15th wedding anniversary on the 8th of February. I am not an expert when it comes to marriage because every marriage is unique and every couple has different types of personality. My husband and I have our share of rough seas too when it comes to our marriage but we managed to overcome them. There are lots of reason why marriage fails. To name some of them, these are lost of self respect with one another, lost of trust, fallen out of love, financial problems, unresolved differences, infidelity, and many more others. You mentioned about a woman or man should change. It is alright to change for the better to make compromises and to meet halfway especially if there are some difference of views or opinions. A person who comes into marriage should adjust himself/herself to the spouse. Although it is quite an effort but it can be done if there is love and respect with one another. Love in a marriage is very important for it to become successful and to overcome whatever problems or obstacles that they will encounter. A wife or husband should not attempt to change his/her wife/husband. Why? Because you cannot change a person or let other person do what you want. This is something that is usually the root of most misunderstanding because one has the tendency to attempt to change the other. This is impossible and if you do this you will only end up hurting yours spouse. Change should come from the person himself. A couple who love each other and are committed to making their marriage successful will learn to become sensitive with each others feelings and they will learn to be more patient, understanding, and willing to change themselves for the better and more importantly, they will be more selfless instead of selfish. By doing all of these, they will be able to solve whatever differences and conflicts that arise. I believe that one thing that binds a couple stronger together is their faith in God and constant prayers because with God, nothing is impossible.
• United States
27 Jan 12
Let me see if I have this right. If a couple loves And respects each other enough they can make a marriage work? So all the others either don't love or respect each other enough. Plus, if they couple are Atheists their marriage is doomed from the start? Ok.
• United States
27 Jan 12
So even Atheists can have a happy marriage. Ok!
• Philippines
27 Jan 12
I am not saying that those who have failed marriages don't love each other enough. I am mot generalizing. As I have said, there are many reasons that can attribute to the failure of marriage and I have cited some of them.
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@JER616 (545)
• Philippines
29 Jan 12
Success in marriage for me depends on how God is involved in the marital partnership. If both spouses acknowledge God within their lives and follow His commandments for husband and wife, they will experience how God can preserve the love within themselves and how can He guide and bless their relationship. You're right, sarah, it isn't gender specific.
• United States
31 Jan 12
What I'm hearing is Only good Christians have good marriages. And if you are not following the teachings of Christ, you can Never have that bond that saves a marriage. You are giving me another reason Never to marry, I'm not a Christian! So why bother. That is why I wanted to make sure I was hearing you correctly. So I wonder How many couples would Still be together because they Never even tried to marry? How many should have just " Lived in sin" than try to force each other into the husband and wife roles. Or should just never even try because like me, they are not Christian?
• United States
29 Jan 12
So if you are an Atheist , you should never marry? Or a child of G-d should never marry a person who isn't? And do you mean if a wife doesn't not let her husband be the head of the household , the marriage is doomed?
@JER616 (545)
• Philippines
30 Jan 12
Sarah, we are talking of two things here-- the ability to marry and the ability to have a successful or failed marriage. Sure, even atheists can get married. If a wife doesn't want her husband to be the head of the household, there is a possibility of being successful or to fail. My premise is that love and lusts are human emotions that fade through time. When both of these fail, a threat to the relationship emerges. To counter such threat, there should be a supernatural bond that will save their marriage. This bond I am referring to is God's divine intercession through His Words in the Scriptures. If both spouses are believers and ardent followers of God and of Christ's teachings, there is a big chance for both to save their marriage even if love and lust wane. Their faith and complete submission will strengthen their marital relationship. I believe that most marriages fail because of the lack of strong faith and complete submission to God's Words. Couples do what they want to do with their lives and with their spouse's life without regard to what the Bible says.
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• United States
25 Jan 12
i understand wat you mean
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@tammytwo (4298)
• United States
1 Feb 12
I agree that this could be the cause of many divorces. People don't realize when they get together their siginifcant other IS going to change. In one way or another people change over the years. Whether they become more social, more independent, more secure, more withdrawn, whatever it is THEY WILL CHANGE. When this occurs a marriage must be strong enough to stand weather the storm or it is destined to fail.
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• United States
1 Feb 12
If my Guy changes , then it will soon be over. I don't Change so soon he will out grow me like a bad habit? Good to know. Another reason I should Never marry. But I never thought I should never love but now I'm not so sure. All I am doing is wasting time waiting for him to leave if you are correct and Everyone Changes save me. And I was correct all those years before whwn I thought I should just die since unlike All others I don't change.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
1 Feb 12
People don't change that much. There life and surroundings may change, their attitudes towards all manner of things their ideas and so on but underneath, a person's personality stays the same. That's why it's important to really get to know one another before you start making commitments to each other. You need to love your partner knowing them and knowing yourself, you need to have a life plan together and you need to be able to communicate. Most relationships fail because of a lack of open, honest, sincere communication.
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• United States
2 Feb 12
Thank you! I agree, being honest and open is the key to a lasting relationship.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
27 Jan 12
Hi Sara! I think both the partners needs to 'change' after marriage and they should 'accommodate' each other. Although, it is easier said than done, due to so many reasons. Expecting either wife or husband to change is not appropriate. One needs to understand that after marriage a boy becomes a husband and a girl becomes a wife and they need to play the roles of husband and wife in a responsible manner.
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• United States
27 Jan 12
And I have known from a very young age that playing the wife would make me so resentful. that is why I will never marry.
@globaldoc (858)
• Philippines
30 Jan 12
There are a million reasons why marriage would fail. There can be financial reasons. There can be infidelity issues. There can be the lack of life. All of these things boil down to one thing. Misunderstanding, or the lack of understanding. I even think that every conflict in this world can fail without respect and understanding. I really think it is the culprit.
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• United States
30 Jan 12
Agreed.
26 Jan 12
ya u r ryt. but after marrige all need to change. men, women, and their families. now a daz this is a common problem of every family. that is d main reason of modern society that after marriege children are getting apart from their parents. the second reason is generation gap we can say it is a culture gap. after marriege girl want freedom but family of boy dont want this bcz they want that she should follow thier culture. and finally the gap between two keep on increasing and result result in fail.
• United States
26 Jan 12
I wonder how many women would Want to marry if they saw it the way I do. Husband is the lead and the wife follows. It seems odd to want freedom After you marry. The main reason? Getting married the first thing you lose is your freedom.
• Kenya
30 Jan 12
If get married because of the physical beauty, then the marriage is bound to break. Fall in love with the inner beauty of a person, whether big or small.
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• United States
30 Jan 12
Love has nothing to do with it! You can fall out of love with a person'r inner beauty too.