What shall I do if my boyfriend shy away from marriage conversation

Philippines
April 29, 2012 8:25am CST
One day my female friend visited me in my house, her name is Sandra. She have a boyfriend and they had been dating for 3 years now. She told me that whenever she will brought out a conversation about marriage he`s boyfriend will say he is not yet prepared and ready to go to the world of long relationship. Now Sandra is asking me how long should she wait for his boyfriend to be prepared and ready for marriage. I guess i need your opinion in this matter which i could advise to my friend Sandra.
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18 responses
• United States
29 Apr 12
If your friend, Sandra, really loves her boyfriend she should be patient because no one should ever be pressured into marriage. Some people are never prepared to marry. If marriage is very important to your friend maybe she should consider dating someone else. It seems, to me, that Sandras' boyfriend is being honest with her and it's important that she respect his decision to wait. Sandras' boyfriend made his decision and now Sandra is in a position to make her decision as well.
• Philippines
29 Apr 12
Ya i think your advise is a good one, and i think she should be patient enough to wait for his boyfriend.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
Hi Jbf, I have to tell you that if I honestly loved someone, that I'd wait forever for them to marry me and if forever came and went and then what difference would it make if we loved that much? Seriously, a Marriage Certificate is a legal committment and not to be taken lightly at all. It does have benefits that non-married couples do not have. If you are religious then of course it is important to you for reasons other than the legalities. In that case, only YOU can decide how long you are willing to wait. My point is that a lot of people tend to think that marriage is proof that their partner loves them. It is not. If your love is not strong enough to survive without marriage, it sure as heck is not going to survive simply because you got that piece of paper.Just my thoughts.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
30 Apr 12
Marriage is not guarantee of happily ever after.. But that is what we read since we are babies.. all those Cinderellas, and Snow Whites, and Sleeping Beauties..right? :) Our minds are conditioned to believe so. Parents look back at their marriage by the time they turn 45 or so..and feel it was not so bad..quite forgetting the initial stages. So they want their children to have equally good marriage. Pressure is more on gilrs at this end of the world because orient has something called "culture" which is absolutely against women. So an unsuccessful relationship becomes a scar for life, unlike in the US. So nobody else will come forward for marriage with the girl. That is the pressure from society which the girl is unable to withstand. From guy's angle..responsibilities are too much. So it can be daunting. Resentment is inevitable after marriage if the boy didnt want it in the first place.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
30 Apr 12
Hi blondi ..we meet again.. :) I think most people do it either for a. religious belief b. Social sanctity They get pestered non-stop by friends and relatives - when are you going to tie the knot and so on. Live in is a new concept, and marriage is an age old institution. People are still not leaving old concepts behind. Because of this, the new generation also faces insecurities. Older generation keeps on asking for the so called "marriage certificate" because they dont want the girl to be left as it happens in many cases. This is the thing that creates the insecurity. So what is the best the guy can do to set aside these feelings of insecurity? Convince the parents that he is not the marrying kind but he would never leave the girl. They would of course question - why no marriage if intentions are so good? He should be prepared for some logical answers.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
I do agree with you sid that legal or church marriage is just a piece of paper and i don`t think that this paper is a proof of love. But in my point of view, every woman`s dreams that someday they will walk in the aisle, i know for the fact that man consider marriage as only an ordinary occasion. I think they have to talk it out if they wanted to settle down as live in partner or married couples. Because if a woman really loves his man she will wait but you have to turn it around also. If a man does really love her woman then he will fulfill her dreams of marriage. As the saying goes "it take two to tango." Vedana how will the parents of the girl accept such offer or proposal of his boyfriend. Every parents also wanted their daughter to be married just like them.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
29 Apr 12
I think Sandra has to talk to her boyfriend since they were in 3years of staying together. She must know what the real thing between the two of them if they were getting into deep relationship. It is hard to wait that's why she must knew it if her boyfriend has plan to be with her all his life. Or if he is just fooling her around.
• Philippines
29 Apr 12
That`s what i have told her, that maybe his boyfriend might be fooling her around i guess i am wrong.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
So after 3 years she is willing to just walk away for him just because marriage is not something that he wants? She is walking away from a guy that actually was honest enough to tell her that he doesn't want that so clearly he is not leading her on. She would rather be with someone who will marry her and perhaps not love her like this guy?
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
I have to question how much she loves him considering that she is the one contemplating leaving.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
30 Apr 12
Actually I can take the risk and say my blondie is right to an extent. Marriage creates some commitments which scares many 'honorable' men. They fear responsibilities, social life, and whatever it imports. A good relationship can be ruined by getting married because of new family obligations. Nevertheless, a girl has little choice with her biological clock ticking and society hounding. They do need to thrash this thing out.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
In the case of marriage, it should be a decision that 2 people arrive at quite naturally. In a case like this where the man is sayimg that he is not ready for it after 3 yrs and the girl is questioning whether she should continue or look for somene else then I honestly think they should just end it right there. It isn't going to work. There love is dependent on that marriage vow when it should be that the marriage vow is dependent on their love.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
2 May 12
Let me put it differently..if a man really loves the girl, then he understands what her situation is, considering the fact that he comes from the same background and knows how his sisters and cousins are treated. So his understanding of her should prompt him to solve her problems. If it does not, it is not love, it is lust.
• Philippines
1 May 12
I think marriage is just one part of every problem in a relationship just like money and your mother in law in married couples. In your opinion ending it immediately will solve the problem or will it worsen the problem? Cause as i have said if a girl really loves his boyfriend she will wait and if a boy really loves her girlfriend she will marry her what ever it cause.
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
29 Apr 12
Well, it seems like your friend now wants to get settled. I think 3 years is long enough to decide whether you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. Maybe the boyfriend is someone who has difficulty making commitments. She has to make a decision herself whether to stay on or look for someone else.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
No...actually if she is willing to wait it shows that she really does love him. I think he probably really does love her too and maybe it is everyone else pressuring them to marry.
• Philippines
1 May 12
Yes sid she is willing to wait I can`t answer that question, if someone is pressuring them?
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
Yes cutie my friends wanted to settle down with his boyfriend that`s why she wanted to get married with him.I think some of advise given by other myloter is that for my friend to make decision of finding someone if his boyfriend can not commit for marriage. But i think my friend would not do that, she is still willing to wait for the time that his boyfriend will be ready for it. Is it not that my friend is becoming martyr for his boyfriend?
@momof3kids (1894)
• Singapore
29 Apr 12
If your friend Sandra wants marriage, that is right for her. Marriage will protect a woman from a man leaving her without any money. If they have kids, money becomes a very important issue. Your friend is thinking ahead and it is clever of her. If her boyfriend insists on a no marriage relationship, its time for her to leave him. If she feels in her gut that she wants to be married, its time for her to look for someone who does want to get married. Do not let her waste her life on a man who would not give her any protection aka a marriage certificate. He is only thinking of his interest. A marriage will say if he is willing to commit, that is all. If he loves her, it does not matter that they get married things will remain the same. Since he is avoiding marriage, is he saying that if he wants to leave anytime, he can? If he gives a reason and says he is afraid of a divorce, if Sandra truly loves him, this could be avoided because she wont want to hurt someone she loves, would she?
• Singapore
30 Apr 12
Like the mylotter who wrote before me, I think 3 years is quite enough. Sometimes a girl has to rule according to what her head says and not her heart. To me Sandras head is saying "marriage now". When I was young there is a song which sings "Do you go to the one who loves you or do you go to the one you love" I choose to go to the one who loves me because I know me and I will look at this person and learn to love him. But if the man does not love me enough to give me what I want which in this case to marry me, how do I make him love me enough? I guess its possible but to me its more difficult. Sandra has to love herself also. I think if she looks at herself and appreciates herself, she will see what decision she has to follow. In my case I love myself very much, I would let people take too much of an advantage of me.
• Philippines
1 May 12
Ya i guess you have a point in there momof3kids, if he really loves my friend then he will be serious enough to talk about their marriage even though he is not yet prepared for now. I also do believe that if you really love a girl even though you are not prepared for marriage, if such conversation was open up or tackled by your girlfriend i won`t shy away from such conversation. Instead i will talk to her about it and we will plan our married until the time comes. am i right
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
My friend truly love his boyfriend to the point that she is willing to wait for the right time for his boyfriend to be ready. But the question is till when??? If given the chance to give his boyfriend ample time to decide what would be the right time or let us say how many months or years would be the suggestion of myloter that they could give before my friend reach her decision to finish there relationship.
@cotruelove (1016)
• Denver, Colorado
29 Apr 12
Thanks for the discussion. What concerns me is the statement that the boyfriend is not ready to go into the world of long relationships. What is 3 years if not a long relationship? I know when I was dating some of the things I and my boyfriends discussed was what we expected from the relationship. Did we expect it just to be a dating relationship forever? or did we expect to get married? It was funny but I did have several answer they only expected to date me, and weren't interested in considering getting married to me. I also found the ones that said that, usually were not loyal to me alone, but wanted to date other people at the same time. If I were her, I would not allow him to avoid the conversation about where the relationship is headed. Why waste time and wait on someone who doesn't have the same goals as you do? But she needs to be sure of what she wants in a relationship also. I've found many friends of mine are just comfortable in a relationship and keep it because they do not want to spend the time looking for someone other than the person they are with. It is a lot of effort to look for a new companion and a lot of work to develop a relationship. They are not truly happy in the relationship but afraid of looking for another one. One of my friends complains constantly about her boyfriend but is to lazy to change it. Matters of the heart are always touchy to talk about with your friends. No one other than the person in a relationship can say how the heart feels. I know from experience I've had to break up a relationship where my heart was involved because it just wasn't going to work for the best interest of either of us. We had ideas that were just too different as to what we truly wanted out of life. Sounds like you friend might want to consider writing about what she wants out of life and how the relationship with her boyfriend is going to meet those goals. It has always amazed me how when I see what I think in black and white on paper how it gives me a view as to what I really want and exactly how I'm fulfilling that want or how the person will help me reach my goals.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
I can speak for my friend and that she truly love her boyfriend maybe 3 years is already long enough for a good relationship and this could be probably the reason that my friend wanted to settle down for good. That is the reason why she is asking him about a possible marriage proposal but every time she open up such conversation his boyfriend always shy away from the topic, maybe money could be a reason considering that getting married is expensive. That is my observation cause if they don`t like each other why would they last for 3 years, i hope he is not fooling my friend.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
30 Apr 12
He has been with her for 3 yrs so it doesn't sound as if he is fooling her. It's just a piece of paper and really does not say anything about the depth of their love. If anything will kill their love, it will be her pressuring him and her doubting their love as a result of him honestly telling her that he is not ready for marriage. Just love each other and when the time is right, they both will know it and no one will have to pressure anyone. Look at the divorce rate...marriage is not proof of lasting love....time is.
@laken02 (3065)
• United States
30 Apr 12
well if she loves him she will not pressure him and keep asking him over and over becasue she will only turn him against her.. tell her to just enjoy the time wshe has with him and be the best girlfriend he cpuld ever want and when he is ready he will ask her to marry him in his own time.. bit after like 5 years i would be worried not until then as dating also can be alot of fun and gives you time to ge tto know the other person. i think more people should wait before jumping into marriage and there would be less divorce..tell her to enjoy her dating time.. :)
• Philippines
1 May 12
Well she really love her very much no question about that, and she is not pressuring her in anyway. there are only times when that topic is brought out by my friend to his boyfriend.
@cloud31 (5809)
1 May 12
In my point of view she should wait for her boyfriend to decide when to propose a marriage unless her boyfriend finalize that no marriage at all then she should consider what she need to do. Actually these days marriage is no longer as necessary as it was before,but of course don't get me wrong I'm one of those who believe in marriage and value marriage a lot. Just what I'm trying to say is that when it comes to marriage both should have intimacy and both are ready to make things perfect between them. Happy mylotting!
• Philippines
1 May 12
Well his boyfriend have not yet finalize his decision of no marriage. I think she has to give him more time to think about it. I do agree with you since my friend is willing to wait for his boyfriend for the right time to proposed for her.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
1 May 12
This is just my opinion and i could really be wrong about it. But i believe that when a man loves that woman there will be no excuses whatsoever. It may be true that he's not ready but it might also be true that he will never be ready at all. Now if your friend truly loves him and he's showing the same to her, then time is not a problem. But if your friend loves him that much but he is not showing that much and your friend is having doubts, i think it's time she discusses things to her boyfriend and a possibility of not being able to wait.
• Philippines
1 May 12
Yes indeed toniganzon you are right if a man loves a woman their no excuses at all. its not that I am saying that his boyfriend is making excuses but maybe he is not yet ready. But i think his boyfriend should take seriously any conversation regarding their marriage so that her girlfriend would not be hurt whenever such conversation is brought out.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
6 May 12
Well, in my opinion, if that is the case with your friend's boyfriend, she better find a new one. When one enters a relationship, one expects a commitment, even if it's not by marriage. Good, if both of you are just in your 20's, i guess relationships at that time isn't expected to be that serious. But if you expect a serious commitment but your boyfriend will say he is not ready, despite the fact that you are both with stable jobs and of marrying age, then better start scouting for someone ready to commit.
• Philippines
7 May 12
That`s sound a good advise to me since both of them are already old enough to to tie their knot and they both have job as well. thanks simplyd
• India
30 Apr 12
If sandara's boy friends has a true love why does she matter about it ? According to my opinion she should have patience. She should wait till his boyfriend is ready for the marriage. As you people know that compelling or forcing others may lead to unwanted problems. So try to avoid such forces with your boy friend.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
You are right thewonderboy you hit one issue and that is the issue of unwanted problem like a fight between them regarding that marriage issue. I think you have a good point in there, you don`t have to force the issue cause this might lead to another new issue and so on.
@Cranos (273)
• Belgium
29 Apr 12
If there are no serious problems in the relationship aside from the marriage thing, I think going to look somewhere else would be a big mistake. It's not that he doesn't love her and it's also not that he never wants to get married like some of the previous posters have brought up. It's just too soon for him. And that's a sentiment I can completely understand. It's not true that nothing changes with marriage if they're already in a serious relationship. Marriage is for the rest of your life, a new chapter, the last step before getting children. That's not something to be taken lightly, no matter how much you love someone. IMO she needs to let him adjust to the idea, give him some time. People jump into marriage way too quickly these days anyway. Waiting a bit until they're both sure won't do any harm.
@Cranos (273)
• Belgium
30 Apr 12
I agree, ignoring it is definitely not going to solve anything.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
I like that idea too to give him more time maybe 3 years is already a long one. But i guess there should be a time frame for it. Or they should talk about it and give time frame for there getting married. Not by just by ignoring the issue of marriage when it is brought up by her girlfriend.
• China
30 Apr 12
It depends on how deep your friend loves her boyfriend, also I suggest your friend can always visit her boyfriend parents and tell them she wants to get married with their son when he is ready, I think maybe the boy can accept what his parents suggested.
• Philippines
1 May 12
I do like your suggestion Juliet, but i think it is unethical to open such conversation to his parents when in the first place their son haven`t proposed any marriage yet to her girlfriend.
• United States
29 Apr 12
He's not ready, and don't press the issue. Give him time. I have been with my boyfriend for four years now, and yes, we have talked about marriage, but neither one of us is really ready for it. I need a real job and a real career, and so does he. I have to get on my feet and settled, and so does he. We are by no means ready for marriage yet, and we will get married when we feel that we are ready, but we just aren't ready right now. Don't force it. If he is not ready, then he is just not ready. Also, is she ready for it because that now means that you have to settle down and that you have to be ready to take care of him and whatever family you produce. Don't be in such a hurry to get married.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
So you are just like my friend although your relationship is 1 year ahead from her. Ok i`ll relay your advise to her since you have already experience the situation where she is in right now. So what you are saying is that one issue of his refusal to settle for marriage is that he is not yet stable for his job. I guess you are right getting married needs a long period of planning and a better monetary preparation for a possible huge expenses you will be encountering during the process.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
29 Apr 12
When it comes to thoughts of marriage, it has to be something you are ready for or you are not. This isn;t something that can be forced on another person and have a good outcome. When you are ready to talk about mariage, it should come easily and naturally. If your boyfriend is turning away from the subject, he may just be uncomfortable about it just not ready to make that kind of comittment. It does not mean that his feelings for you are not real. Just give it time and it marriage is in the cards for you, it will come.
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
oh... I see So you are telling me that the guys feeling to my friend is also serious If that`s the case then how long should my friend wait?
@dubbc3 (125)
• United States
29 Apr 12
Your friend's boyfriend does not want to get married. It doesn't take a lot of preparation to get married. Especially for men. He doesn't want to come right out and say it. Advise your friend to not pressure her boyfriend. Three years is long enough to wait for someone to want to marry. She should probably go ahead and get out of the relationship before she wastes more time and get hurt.
@kdnater (135)
• India
1 May 12
Easy is to ask him directly , if it is not done then it may be too late .