A witness to the Santiago vs Tulfo

Philippines
May 8, 2012 6:29pm CST
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/257440/news/metromanila/witness-mon-tulfo-started-brawl-by-kicking-claudine-karate-style I just saw in the morning news today that a witness came up, "ANna"..saying that it was the couple who were the victim and not Tulfo..Anna is the wife of a businessman who was going to ride the Cebu Pacific airplane but their flight was delayed and she saw what happened.. Do you believe her? I am not really sure- unless other witness come forward.
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9 responses
@irene66 (1669)
• Philippines
13 May 12
Whether their were witnesses or none at all, i think the most important thing is how both parties behave in public. This is a situation which challenges the character of public figures. This should not have happened if the Santiagos were calmed. I do believe that as a reproter like Tulfo a "scene" is his dish for his day and if their are no "scenes", their will be nothing to be reported To me, both parties lost their fight
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• Philippines
20 May 12
Yes, this misunderstanding could had been prevented if the Santiago's reacted in a composed manner. Being celebrities, any commotion they initiates will attract attention especially in a public place. As for Mr Tulfo, as a journalist he will not let this incident pass just like that without being documented. Both parties have their own reasons to file a case against each other, let's just hope this will be settled soon.
@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I saw one of Claudine's performance in a tv show wherein she almost fell and curse PI. If she can say it in front of national tv- it is undoubted she can say it to anyone especially on her situation that her baggage are missing. So, if ever Mon Tulfo is taking some footage or pictures- being a media men he knows what he is doing. If an ordinary/civilian citizen can do such thing (filming/recording/taking photos) during scandals or same incidents- how much more of someone who work in media. The only problem is, some celebrities acted as if they are untouchables and they have all the rights to cursed people whenever and wherever they want. Granting the airlines missed some of their luggage- does Claudine has the right to cursed to attendant/stewardess- which I think only reveals her (Claudine) her nature. I am not judging Claudine, yes, anyone has the right to get angry and demand for explanation- but can she do it in good way/manner. Just my opinion....
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• Philippines
19 May 12
Yes, we may say that the couple being celebrities must show the public a good example of humility and emotional control. I guess these are the traits that qualifies them to be actor/actress, and be some kind of role models to the viewing public especially the youngsters. Like us these people may be caught off guard to react in any upsetting situation and Mr Tulfo being a reporter had seen an opportunity to take pictures of what he thought could be a scoop, so he did what a journalist is supposed to do. The only problem is, the couple and their friends actions were caught on video beating up Mr Tulfo while some guards are holding the later. So the sympathy of the public having seen this footage were on Mr Tulfo. Let's just hope more witnesses comes forward to give a different version countering the testimony of Anna. Yeah, this couldn't have happened if Claudine's questioning was done in a composed manner.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
9 May 12
In my point of view no harsh incident will happened if Mon Tulfo was not using his intention upon getting some photos of the incident Claudine and the staff of the airlines. It is just simple Mon is the one who has to blame here, he has intention because he is a media man and that incident that he saw was his big opportunity to have a juicy news. He must deserve this.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
9 May 12
Mon is the one who must not react on this, since he is not involved on the situation. If Human Rights are talking about the one who are involved which is the flight attendant she must be the one who will take charges against Claudine and nothing else who wants to dip into the incident. I'm not taking side by anyone I'm just pointing out if no Mon Tulfo appear on the scene no fighting incident might take place.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
9 May 12
Why he did not call an police attention and why he must take pictures in his cellphone if he has no personal intention? I think if he did not took pictures only verbal mis-understanding might happened.
@alphenor (686)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I disagree with your statement as it does not seem to be logical. Mon Tulfo would not take pictures if there was not anything worth taking in his point of view. The issue here is not about the "juicy news", but Human Rights. Claudine defamed a flight attendant. I even find it strange for Gabriela to take side of someone who berated a FEMALE employee who is doing anything she can do to serve their clients. I'm not saying that Mon Tulfo is innocent here, as he also have a fault by not introducing himself as a media person. Please do not take sides just because Mon is a Tulfo or a media man or Claudine is a female celebrity.
@shylade (3132)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I honest;y don't believe what she said that Mom Tulfo intentionally kicked Claudine. Because first why Mr. Tulfo would do that? You can check at pep.ph about the statements of the latest witnesses. One of the NAIA security guards attest that Mom Tulfo did not kicked or pushed Claudine at the counter, even the ground employees gave similar statement and so another person at the same scene also narrated the whole incidence. You can easily pay someone to testify in favor of you. You should have a true evidence to support the statement otherwise it will just destroy yourself. It takes humility to accept that you are wrong and plead for forgiveness. It is hard though but that is the only answer to stop this controversy.
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• Philippines
19 May 12
Well my guess is, maybe Tulfo have kicked her but didn't mean it intentionally. I hope. And Claudine did humble herself and apologize to the ground stewardess- and they denied that she made it person and said her voice just became louder. This is all so hard without the cctv.
@laniekins (4579)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I will only believe if the staff which Claudine reprimanded will testify, I'm pretty sure she saw what really happened.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
9 May 12
absolutely logical as this flight attendant was the focus of both claudine's and tulfo's attention; the former berating her and the latter taking a picture of her being berated by the former. There are witnesses on each side contradicting each one's version, but then again i think the airline company had issued an official statement regarding the issue and likely not siding anyone.
@alphenor (686)
• Philippines
13 May 12
Airlines prevents their employees to participate in the trial nor give statements to the media to prevent drawing the public's attention to the company. It's always like this. Trending first before anything else. And I can confidently say that this is one of the key reasons why there are only few solved issues in the country and most of the unsolved are just easily forgotten.
• Philippines
10 May 12
I agree. this is the incident that sparked the brawl. It's hard to take witnesses' accounts if they don't at least paint you a whole picture. At least she was really there and she only protects her interests and the airlines'. She has no obligation to render help to any party.
@alphenor (686)
• Philippines
9 May 12
The identity of this "Anna" is somewhat fishy. If ever she is a wife of a businessman then why does she want to hide her face? She does not need to be scared of the Tulfo brothers. They may have some bad reputation as journalists but they do not resort to hunting people. They let the authorities do that part. All I heard of her statement was a copy of Raymart and Claudine's. Just because she is a wife of a businessman does not mean that her statement will be believable. In the video alone, there was bias happening (the security guards restricting only Tulfo) so it is not strange that there will be also after the incident. I know that there are Claudine fans and Tulfo fans out there defending their fans or anti-Claudine and anti-Tulfo people saying that what happened was somewhat "karma". Let's just be reasonable here and let the truth prevail. Do not be blinded by your love/hate towards both parties.
@alphenor (686)
• Philippines
13 May 12
I do not consider her being paid because of her copied statement. If she was paid, then she would have a statement more detailed and somewhat differently worded than those of Raymart and Claudine. So I assume that she decided to take Raymart and Claudine's side for some unknown, fishy reason.
• Philippines
10 May 12
I think the reaosn for that is because this is a high-profile case. it's not just the tulfo brothers who are interested, it's basically the whole country (or the showbiz part of it, anyw2ay). I think that's it's just a extra precaution. If I did witness that, i don't want a lot of people asking me what really happened, over and over again. It would be better if testimony is given to the court - at least it's under oath. Anyway, let's eee how this will develop. I agree that she should not be believed unless there is tangible evidence and corroborating testimonies that back-up her claim. But I'm not saying that she is paid or a liar. (maybe that's the reason why they emphasized that she is a wife of a businessman - she won't be taken as a paid witness). It depends on how the investigation work. Knowing the authorities, they will prioritize this so that they won;'t be accused of being incompetent to a Uighur-profile case.
• Philippines
17 May 12
@ alphenor, I'm with you in doubting the identity of Anna. If she really want to help, why is she afraid to show her face in public. Her testimony could bring light about what really happened n that crucial minutes before it started but it's a one sided story .Let's just hope more witnesses come forward. @ jeanne, Yes, it is considered to be a high profile case because the parties involved are both public figure. And any witness who comes forward will be an instant celebrity, I mean she/he will become the reporters subject.
@chiyosan (30186)
• Philippines
9 May 12
Well we all know how this one can go - the words of the old man vs the words of the couple(one known for her not being patient)... I'd like to say that someone really has started this... mon tulfo can just respect the woman who loses her patience and this would never have come about... etc. Does not matter who believes who.. i just hope that the country would actually focus more on the underlying issues here... like the lack of proper procedures, and so on.. and also the safety of all the passengers and those who uses the terminal, for the lack of cctv camera and security personnel trainers...
• Philippines
19 May 12
Yes your right, unless more witnesses comes forward to collaborate with Anna's testimony or another version before it gets out of control. Maybe this happened to serve as a wake up call for our government to focus more on giving quality service and safety to the riding public.
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
9 May 12
Sometimes it can be difficult to prove words without any actual proof or evidence for support. There should be another party who has witnessed the situation who should come forward to collaborate the statement of Anna, don't you think so? the truth will be unearthed once they complete the investigation. Since popular figures are involved there may be certain biases and prejudices among the witnesses. Not everyone is a fan of Claudine or Tulfo. but even if I am not exactly a fan of Tulfo, I don't think he will kick at a woman without any provocation. Men just don't do that especially on the part of a known commentator who is known for fighting for justice.
@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
9 May 12
I totally agree with you Yahnee. The way i perceive it, Tulfo was provoked and acted on impulse if ever he did kick Claudine. Seeing some of Claudine's bratty ways on TV as sometimes mentioned in the news, i think she has gone too far indeed in berating the ground stewardess and they have perhaps really tried physically , to get Tulfo's cellphone.
• Philippines
9 May 12
I also agree with yahnee. I mean, each side has its own witnesses (as objective as possible is ideal) to present their case. both parties are now coming to court to settle the matter. I would also like to hear other versions of the incident. Granted, that each person has their version of the story, there should be a common denominator between them. Such a shame that the CCTV wasn't working (as the general manager himself admitted). At least, nobody can lie to the CCTV camera and this would have been resolve far more quicker. Anyway, I'm still waiting to hear each party. I hate to be judgmental over something which can be loosely interpreted into a lot of things.
• Philippines
14 May 12
@ yahnee, Yes, both claims they are the aggrieved party so unless video footage is shown if ever there is any, this case will go a long way.Having both the influence and the money each could hire lawyers with caliber to defend their themselves. @simplyd, I agree that Claudine's character is very much the opposite of what she portrays on movies and TV series. This have been proven on blind items being circulated in showbiz world for awhile.I just hope other witnesses comes forward not only Anna so that their testimonies could be heard too. @ jean, Yes, It's really a shame that there is no camera installed in the place where the incident happened( the general manager said there is but is not working which for me is to save face but the truth is none)Let's just hope the truth comes out.
9 May 12
I think it is reasonable to believe the witness since she is a wife of a rich businessman. But we still don't know if it is an unbiased opinion. Until more witnesses come out to testify what really happened only then can we fully know who started the fight.
• Philippines
15 May 12
Since she is the only witness I still doubt her credibility. With no other to verify or counter her testimony we only see one side of the story. In the video it's clear that Tulfo is the underdog being beaten by Santiago's friend.And we don't know yet what really occurred and why Claudine was kicked by Mon.Let's just hope more witnesses comes forward.