Desire or Obsession

@Suebee (2013)
Canada
June 23, 2012 12:19pm CST
When does a desire become an obsession? Say for example you have a desire to be successful at something. You put so much effort into accomplishing your dreams and goals that it seems you are becoming obsessed with success. Is obsession the difference between actually succeeding and merely having the desire for something? For example, some people who want to succeed at being a musician spend hours upon hours upon hours practising. Is this a determination to succeed or an obsession? Or how about the person who wants to be financially successful who pours every waking moment into his work. Obsession or desire to succeed? The word success is associated with having a positive meaning while the word obsession itself denotes a negative connotation, but is there really that much difference?
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
23 Jun 12
I think obsession means all of your energy and thinking is taken up by whatever your goal. I wouldn't be surprised to find that most people who are very successful are also obsessive. It's true that when a person is referred to as obsessive it generally means in some negative way.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
23 Jun 12
I tend to agree with you. What I am wondering is if all people who are very successful are also obsessive?
@savypat (20216)
• United States
29 Jun 12
Nothing to do with humans can be all inclusive. I have known several successful people who just seemed to stumble into it, they were happy about it but never let it rule their lives. Others I have known are very narrow people, consintrating on only their own success.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
You are very right. Nothing to do with humans can be all inclusive. Thank you for pointing that out to me. I totally agree.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
24 Jun 12
I think a desire to achieve something great in life turns into obsession when the person which is controlled by that desire detaches himself or herself almost completely from any other activities to focus on that goal and,what's worse,begins to ignore the people who once were closed to that person,and in that process that person is even capable of almost everything,even doing harmful things to others just to satisfy that desire,so for me the word 'obsession' definitely has a negative meaning because I'm convinced that,once a person's desire turns into obsession,it is very difficult to get out of that state which completely invades the mind and soul of an individual.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
True. If you become completely detached then I would say it is definitely an obsession!
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
25 Jun 12
yes there is a different and that is exactly what you said obsession is negative. That is the difference. Practicing to perfect a skill is not an obsession it is something you have to do the perfect that skill that is positive. Sitting down playing guitar all day in your garage, when you should be out looking for a job is an obsession, it is actually preventing you from moving ahead in the world and and getting a job. This is happens when you really will not be doing anything to improve your life with that guitar playing. On the other hand if you are practicing playing the guitar in your garage because you are trying out for a paying gig is not an obsession. It is a desire to be gainfully employed in that field.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Just as I said before they are positive things designed to make your life better so they are not obsessions, You have to practice to get good at something, You may have to work extra hours to get your debts down, but your future will be better for it. The word obsession is used when there is no really reason to do something and what you are doing may actually hurt you in some way, like the kids that is just playing guitar for the sake of playing it, and not going out to get a job. If the kid is playing the guitar because this is the career he or she wants and is practicing to get better because he wants to work in the field it is not an obsession it is a goal in life.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
What if you don't have an audition lined up but you are practising anyway in the hopes of one day becoming good enough to get a paying gig?
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Ok, I just thought of another example. Say you are working to pay off your debts or credit cards or whatever. You pick up all kinds of overtime work, say you work 70 hours a week instead of the usual 35 or 40. Are you obsessed with paying off your debts? Or are you just determined to succeed and reach your goal. Once your debts are paid off, of course you wouldn't continue to work that much overtime....
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
26 Jun 12
‘Desire for success' is a positive term; it makes a man work, motivates him to think of smart ways of achieving his target. When this motivation excludes everything else to the extent of stomping on all that comes in between his goals and achievement then it starts to become an obsession. Now, even here there is a thin dividing line between focus and obsession. Focus would be more on the action but obsession is more related to the result. Obsession obviously has a negative connotation because being a persistent thought in the mind, it would be a constant feeling that eats into the self. Great discussion topic! .
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
26 Jun 12
I shall get back later with some answers for your questions.TIed up right now!
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
I agree that there is a very think dividing line. I am starting to see the difference though in reading the great responses I am seeing here. PS...I hope you are not tied up literally!
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
*thin* even, not think, lol
@allknowing (130063)
• India
24 Jun 12
Obsession is not doing up your bed, nor preparing breakfast, nor attending to your kids - giving up everything else and just being after something that you want to achieve. That to my mind is obsession. In order to succeed one needs to go after it but thinking success, dreaming success, eating success surely will come under the category of obsession. \ My sister runs a school at her house. I can truly say she is obsessed with it as even if you visit her once in a blue moon she has no time to sit with you and spend some time with you
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
26 Jun 12
Do you mean to say that these people are unaware that they are obsessed with their mission? They know it allknowing but they have their priorities. That is all. For e.g. there are some doctors who do not get married because of their dedication to their own work.Here we call it selfless service. Don't we? Their desire to excel in their profession takes first priority over everything else concerned.
@allknowing (130063)
• India
26 Jun 12
If anyone recognised going after success as obsession we would have few who would be obsessed with their mission.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
But maybe she doesn't see it as an obsession but as success...
• United States
23 Jun 12
Hello Suebee, Desire is important. Here's the question I would ask: What is the difference between obsession and passion? I think an obsession could be viewed as a negative thing along with addiction. To be passionate about something means that you completely throw yourself into something. Being involved adds to you joy and you do it without the guarantee of success.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
25 Jun 12
...so when it becomes an obsession there is no joy in it?
@patgalca (18181)
• Orangeville, Ontario
23 Jun 12
My husband is obsessed with golf. He plays it, watches it on television, plays it on the Playstation. No he is not practicing to become a professional or to even succeed at a certain score. He is just plain obsessed. Or perhaps passionate is a better word. My daughter is obsessed with sports, especially soccer. She loves to play, loves to watch but.... she does not like practicing at all. She doesn't like practicing anything. She wants to succeed in sports. She won an award at school this year for MVP in basketball. That makes her happy and if she knew there was a possibility of a career maybe she would take it more seriously as far as practicing. She likes to succeed. Likes to get goals and awards. But she doesn't like practicing. So does that mean she is more obsessed than being passionate for success? The church had a fundraiser which consisted of a 5K run. This same daughter refused to prepare/train for it. When she crossed the finish line her first words were, "Never again." Don't know whether she meant never again run the 5K or never again do it without training. But, get this, she came in 2nd for women 15-24. She almost came in first by a nose. I guess she is one that likes to succeed without doing the work. LOL! I think she takes after her mother.
@patgalca (18181)
• Orangeville, Ontario
26 Jun 12
According to my Thesaurus, passion and obsession are synonyms. They pretty much mean the same thing except passion seems more positive and obsession appears negative.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Which brings me to another question. When does passion become obsession? Is that a certain line and if so, where does it lie?
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Yes, I see that in another response as well. Passion sounds so much more positive than obsession doesn't it?
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I think desire have that drive in you that makes you want to give a lot of effort in order to succeed. I would not tell that spending hours to practice is a bad thing because that is only natural. Obsession will only comes in, when you are doing bad things in order to succeed. Like cheating or doing dirty paraphernalia. Or maybe when they don`t care about anyone like when a family is sick or there`s an emergency but he or she will working then it would be obsession, not desire. You also have to know your limit
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Good point about when there is an emergency. Puts it into perspective.
@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Jun 12
If you really want something and when it over takes all your waking time and space. Completing giving up of ones self to become as good as you can at a certain thing--that could be obsession. A very deep desire to suceed is an obsession. If you read the defination of obsession you can see why it can be thought of as negative. ob·ses·sion [ ?b sésh'n ] 1.preoccupation: an idea or feeling that completely occupies the mind 2.state of being obsessed: the state of being obsessed by somebody or something 3.uncontrollable persistence of idea: the uncontrollable persistence of an idea or emotion in the mind, sometimes associated with psychiatric disorder Synonyms: mania, fascination, fixation, passion, preoccupation, thing Etc., etc.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
So in my mind then, even though we usually associate the word obsession as negative, it is not necessarily so. Some of the most successful people are successful because they are, or were at one point, obsessed with making their idea work i.e. the Wright brothers and their flying machine. A lot of people thought they were crazy but they were determined to make it work. Hey, maybe determined is a better word for it?
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
26 Jun 12
I suppose we can use a qualifying word before it as "healthy' and 'unhealthy' obsession to differentiate between the positive and negative.
@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
27 Jun 12
This is true. I think there are both healthy and unhealthy. Crossing over the line of unhealthy when it crosses boundaries and becomes just that--unhealthy.
• United States
25 Jun 12
I think that it has to do with the person's happiness and state of mind, which is probably why desire is considered positive and obsession is viewed as negative. If a musician is spending hours upon hours upon hours practicing, because it makes him or her happy and he or she enjoys it, then I would say it is desire. Once the person stops enjoying it and only does it because he or she feels that it is necessary, especially if it is keeping him or her from doing other things in his or her life that would be more enjoyable, then I think it becomes an obsession.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
very good purplealabster, I am a therapist so this is my training, obsessions usually make your life worse rather than better, and clinic obsession is really bad, because people do it but they can't help it. you have heard of ocd? obsessive compulsive disorder? They are the people who wash their hands 100s of times a day, or cannot leave the house because every time they go out the feel something is wrong and they go right back in to check, and they just never stop, that is an obsession.
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• United States
27 Jun 12
Thank you, Winterose. Yes, I have heard of OCD, and I also know that there are varying degrees of it. Sometimes people can live somewhat normal lives despite their compulsion, but other people cannot function or can hardly function due to it, and it is really quite sad.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
25 Jun 12
Interesting way to look at it purplealabaster. You are right, obsession usually has negative views attached to it.
@alberello (4752)
• Italy
23 Jun 12
Well, it is clear that if someone wants to achieve a particular goal, must strive to reach that goal. This entails sacrifices ok, but I think it is wrong when it becomes an obsession, as if to say a "disease". Commitment ok, but always in moderation! Perhaps, and this is my point of view, excessive efforts to reach a target occurs from the fear of falling into a failure.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
But does moderate commitment allow one to successfully achieve their goal?
@McCreeper (777)
• United States
24 Jun 12
When taken out of context, most adjectives simply are determined by one's POV (point of view). If the proverb was stated correctly, "One man's trash can be another man's treasure", one man's desire could be a point of view from himself, but may also be an obsession to a person outside from his point of view. Hope this helps.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
I think you are entirely right McCreeper. It all depends on your point of view. What one may consider an obsession, another might consider striving for success.
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
We can say that the desire become obsession when you are doing things all over again without any sense at all or it's beyond your control. Desire to succeed is much way difference from that because we do things all over again for us to be good or reach our goal/ that's what we suppose to do, not to the extent that we doing it because that what our mind saying/to subside our anxiety, there is powerlessness. Obsession can ruin ones life coz its not any good at all so better not strive for perfection to be safe hahahahh............
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
You just gave me one of the Aha! moments when you say obsession is beyond your control.
@Austina (92)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Yes, your example is a desire. Whereas if you put your desire in a wrong way, then that is obsession. Like abusing yourself just to get your dream. Or hurting others just to get your desire.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
26 Jun 12
Oh I totally agree that if it comes to hurting others then there is something very wrong and it is no longer a desire.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
23 Jun 12
The stages of 'Obsession' usually associate with outcome of an event that has negative consequences for yourself and others, while 'desire to succeed' that drive up your determination and wills power doesn't create adverse effect on others and yourself before reaching the goal; that is the main difference between both. If you go overboard or cross the delicate line before reaching your goal or objective, then you are unfortunately in an 'obsessive' mold and it is time to retract or stop before harm is done. Yes, there is a big difference between both terms.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
23 Jun 12
It's true that obsession is associated with negativity, while desire has positive associations with it. However, at what point does a desire to succeed become an obsession? As you pointed out, there is a very fine line between the two. How many people cross that line in order to succeed at something?