Spoiled Brats
By winterose
@winterose (39887)
Canada
July 14, 2012 4:46pm CST
There are many young people who are just spoiled brats, before you answer back not all are, I know I just said that, there are many does not mean all.
The particular young people I am talking about (again it is not every young person) are brought up with a sense of entitlement. They feel the world owes them something and they don't have t lift a finger to do anything in return.
This is a big problem in Canada and the USA today.
My boyfriend's daughter was brought up like a princess. She was spoiled rotten there was nothing her parents would not do for her. Well her parents got divorced. And T, the daughter couldn't get along with her mother.
She asked to go into a foster home, because she was 14 and her mother had a curfew of 10 pm for her and miss princess didn't like it.
My boyfriend was so upset and I told him not to worry because she won't like it there either. Nobody in a group home is going to treat her like a princess.
Well true to form she wanted out.
Now the mother had full custody of the children and made all the decisions. They had meetings at the youth agency and it was decided that T would be going to live with her uncle in The USA. Her uncle and his wife are both doctors and the uncle is is a big shot doctor known all over the world.
They took that girl and raised her from the age of 14 as their own. They gave her everything, love and what money can buy. She went to private schools and the uncle spent thousands and thousands of dollars on her high school education.
She had three cell phones and her own car by the time she was 16 and she went on trips all around the world all on the uncle's dollar.
Now if you hear T speak about her uncle you would believe she was so hard done by. She talks about petty things, like once he let his daughter go on a trip but she didn't go. This is petty, this man treated her as one of his own children, he was not obliged to do that.
But kids that grow up with a sense of entitlement think this way,they don't appreciate what is given to them, they only concentrate on what they believe they don't have but should have.
She has hurt her uncle deeply. He gave her everything. Even after she turned 18 and was legally on her own by Canadian standards as she is Canadian,he was still paying trips for her.
She wanted to go to South America, he paid the bill, she wanted to go to the middle east,he payed the bill. She was going to study at Cambridge he paid the bill. And you know what she never even contacted him or her father to say she arrived safely.
She contacted her father six months later only her brother told her off but she never even bother to contact her uncle the man that made it all possible for her.
Spoiled brats are just ungrateful.
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19 responses
@celticeagle (189880)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Jul 12
Not all- Gotcha! I think here in the U.S. we have community curfews for children but I'm not sure what it is now. I think all kids should be brought up like the Waltons. I am glad that I was brought up the way I was. Plenty of family. We weren't rich but we had alot of fun and there was always love. This girl you speak of was a brat to be sure. Kids need rules and they need to know they are loved. Like you say kids grow up thinking they are owed things and are selfish and self serving. Parents have the school and day care raising their children. And these children grow up and do the same thing. Very sad indeed. And another thing I think is very sad is that there is no, what i call, 'generational families' living in homes together. Grandparents living with the family and helping raise the children. Making the kids learn real ethics and things they just don't learn now days. I was brought up around my grandparents when I was young and i am very glad i was. I am an old fashioned person and I feel I have ethics and what I think is a good character. My grandparents instilled this in me.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
I grew up with my grandmother, my parents never wanted me. T's mother did not work but my boyfriend worked long hours to bring in the money.
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@celticeagle (189880)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Jul 12
Winter I am saddened by what you said. Your parents never wanted you. And Hatley I think you have mentioned this before. I think that grandparents are special people and they really bring something to the family. Traditional values and such as that. I felt bad that I had to put my mom in an old folks home. Nursing home really because she had cancer and I had to work. I hope I did enough for her and showed her I cared there toward the last. I made sure she ate like she wanted and the nursing home was good about making sure she had butter like she liked and such as that. There was a fruit she always wanted and made sure she got it. Can't remember now. It was tough and I just hope she never felt like I was pushing her away or anything. I had a family to feed and no one but me to do it. I think she understood that. I went from a full time job I had set a goal to get to a part time one so I could spend time with her.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
14 Jul 12
It seems to me that a lot of kids are raised this way, although not to that extent. They're not taught responsibility or self discipline. I think sometimes when both parents work and the home life is shallow, they feel guilty about leaving the kids to fend for themselves so much (emotionally, if not physically) so they try to make it up by buying things and allowing them things they wouldn't otherwise.
Our societies in the US, Canada and a lot of other places are so focused on money and "stuff" that other things are neglected. Our kids are paying for it because they don't respect the ones who could guide them. They think they don't need their elders.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 12
hi peavey and winterose they expect so much mnore now than I ever did growing up ,I had one person who was visiting here ask me to borrow my cell phone. I had to say sorry I do not own one, : can i use you Ipod no sorry I do not have one either,. well let me
borrow your laptop just long enough to email my mom.
I laughed and said come to my room and you can use my desktop
computer. so she did then as they left to visit the person that was their relative this 15 yr old tried to give me 25 dollars for
using my computer., I told her thanks but give that to your own grandma there as she can use it really . she looked bewildered
but her Aunt told me she did give it to her grandmother.
That child was so surprised that I did not have what she felt everyone had to have.talking about stuff reminded me of the teenager and me. lol





@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
14 Jul 12
That is the problem with Kids like her, shove everything up their backside and they expect more but also believe they do not have to thank for it just take all the time
I hope that her Uncle will now see the error and make her make her own way as that is what the little spoiled Girl needs she needs to learn that you do not just shove People aside once you have drained them
To have money is good but it is more evil then good it hurts it kills and it does not make People happy, it produces Children like that little Madam
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
14 Jul 12
the uncle says he will have nothing more to do with her after the way she treated him.
She will learn in time hopefully
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 12
hi gabs and winterose we would have been so surprised and grateful
had our parents given us all those trips and gifts bu t we
would not have got that much as our parents were smarter than
that. I grew up during the depression years so learned to be happy with whatever w as give me, wonder if now her uncle has seen she needs to learn to appreciate him she will really learn to thank
him for all he has done for her.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
15 Jul 12
My kids are spoiled to a degree. I have a problem with rummage sales
So my kids have tons of clothes mostly and it gives us something to do that's out of the house while my nightshifter hubby is asleep. Otherwise they aren't too spoiled or entitled other than they think they don't have to do chores so Other than clothes or something that catches my eye & price they don't get things they can't pick up anymore.
But as for this girl who thinks shes entitled. OMG! She'd get a good dose of reality and fast in my world! I can't believe he continued to baby her after she turned 18. Trust me when my kids get their first job if they want a car they will have to pay for some portion of the expenses that go along with a car and keeping decent grades. Same with paying to be a fashionista ect... I have my own goals to achieve
I was kinda spoiled when I was a kid by my Aunt she didn't have kids so she'd take me to the water parks, six flags, Disney, museums because my mom didn't have the money and to give my mom a break. It wasn't often that I got to go places maybe 1x a year then when I became a teenager my mother and my aunt had a tiff and I didn't really talk much to my aunt til I got married basically. My kids don't really get to go anywhere really. But I try to remind them just because so and so went to this waterpark or camp doesn't mean you have to. I'd like to take them to places if we could but we are just able to pay the bills.
So my kids have tons of clothes mostly and it gives us something to do that's out of the house while my nightshifter hubby is asleep. Otherwise they aren't too spoiled or entitled other than they think they don't have to do chores so Other than clothes or something that catches my eye & price they don't get things they can't pick up anymore.
But as for this girl who thinks shes entitled. OMG! She'd get a good dose of reality and fast in my world! I can't believe he continued to baby her after she turned 18. Trust me when my kids get their first job if they want a car they will have to pay for some portion of the expenses that go along with a car and keeping decent grades. Same with paying to be a fashionista ect... I have my own goals to achieve
I was kinda spoiled when I was a kid by my Aunt she didn't have kids so she'd take me to the water parks, six flags, Disney, museums because my mom didn't have the money and to give my mom a break. It wasn't often that I got to go places maybe 1x a year then when I became a teenager my mother and my aunt had a tiff and I didn't really talk much to my aunt til I got married basically. My kids don't really get to go anywhere really. But I try to remind them just because so and so went to this waterpark or camp doesn't mean you have to. I'd like to take them to places if we could but we are just able to pay the bills.2 people like this
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
16 Jul 12
the uncle is a very wealthy man so he could afford to do more than a lot of us, but that didn't mean she had to be so ungrateful, her own father couldn't afford to give her what this man has given her. In the 4 years she lived with her uncle he gave her in the 100th of thousands of dollars between her schooling and all the extras. I kid you not.
As far as grades she is extremely intelligent and always top in her class. She loves school. She is also a hard worker and has always worked through her university training. She is very ambitious she will always get what she wants in life.
You are doing a great job with your kids.
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
16 Jul 12
If a child is given "everything," that child will grow up to be a spoiled, ungrateful brat. Of course, this is part of our consumerist culture.
If you want an unspoiled child, you have to raise the child to be unspoiled. While marketers seek to trample parental authority, it often seems that they don't even have to try strong arm tactics to manage that. Too often, parents and guardians are guilty of promoting an atmosphere of materialism within the home, rather than taking efforts to keep the culture of unbridled consumerism at bay.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
17 Jul 12
that is true and I have written about that in great detail, but for this little mylot discussion it was just about the spoiled child.
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
14 Jul 12
Yup. Sounds like a pretty darn spoiled girl. Maybe I'm completely biased as a fairly young person myself, but I really don't think that many young people are spoiled. I know you already said don't answer back not all are, but in honesty I think you're stereotyping young people based on a small sampling you've known through a few bad apples. I'll admit, there are lots of entitled dumb young people out there! But I think I've seen an equal number of entitled dumb older people. Ones that constantly seek hand-outs from the government and other other, ones that will stomp on other people and their own children because they feel they deserve something, and ones that will completely blow off great opportunities because they're too lazy to put the work into the responsibility that comes with them.
And when a child is spoiled, really, whose fault is it? Does a child wake up one day and say, "No mother, do not give me the extra cookie I asked for! I need to learn to be grateful and work for extra luxuries that I desire." ? Uhh... no. Kids grow up spoiled because parent don't teach them right. Once they're spoiled adults, they could learn to break the habit on their own, but it's not that likely.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
14 Jul 12
first of all I am a therapist with clinical training though I used a personal example the body of work is out there. It is all research and it is a big problem in our respective countries.
No I didn't mention the reasons for why someone becomes spoiled though I could write volumes on that,this discussion was just about spoiled brats, not what caused them but their actions.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
14 Jul 12
I was not aiming to insult your intelligence. I merely believe that youth are unfairly stereotyped as being spoiled, dumb, and lazy. I imagine there are hordes of youth out there who seem bent on proving these stereotypes correctly, but there are also youth out to prove it wrong... though you may not hear them over the people bent on demonizing the young. I might be biased as a young person, I admitted that. But I spend a great deal more time around other young people than the average adult because they are my peers. In school I knew young students who weren't given parental support or loans, and yet they were bending over backwards to make their education work. Not too long ago, my church sent a group of teenagers in their grudge gear down to a third world country were they would be working on hard-labor projects for several weeks out of their summer vacation. Those are hardly moves of spoiled brats, but such stories are typically overlooked when older adults and the media choose to elaborate on the actions of spoiled brats.
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Thats a shame that children are like that these days. I see it too much and its everywhere. And you are right. They do think that they are owed something. I also dont think that they live in the real world. The real world will eat you up acting like that. It makes things so much harder for the children that grow up in this manner.
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@danishcanadian (28954)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
I have NO TOLERENCE for spoiled brats. I have had some hard times in my relationship with my own father, but that's only because we're both as bull-headed as the day is long, and we're both very intellegent people. I wanted to do things my way, but my way was basically the way HE TAUGHT ME!!! He, on the other hand, wanted to continue to control me. Taht was really our ONLY problem. Fortunately once I grew up and got out on my own (even though Dad didn't live with me for the last 10 years of my home-life because he and Mom were divorced) he finally saw that I'd "received the gifts he gave me" A LONG TIME AGO, and taught myself how to use them.
Anyway, here is what I learned.
1) We were wealthy. I always knew we were wealthy. Nice house, nice BIG summer-house (it would be inaccurate to call it a cottage!!!!), VERY GOOD FOOD on the table, bills always paid, nice clothes even if they weren't "designer" (I learned not to care about designer labels!) and all inds of other things.
We did not have all the things the girl you mentioned had, even though we could have afforded them. While I thought Dad was a bit too controlling, I decided to use that to learn how to save, spend wisely, and appreciate what I earned. The summer house was beautiful, but what's a legally blind physically challenged person going to do on an island for 3 months a year? I would have prefered to stay in town and do my own thing. THAT'S what I meant by controlling. If he thought it was a great life (he alwayshad good intentions!!!!) then so should the rest of the family. If we didn't appreciate it, we were ungreatful. When a relative would die and leave me money, he'd invest my inheritance before I even knew about it. This always annoyed me, because I learned how to manage money from HIM!!! I would have ultimately done the same as he did, but to come tothat decision on my own, would have been better. Again, THAT is what I mean by controlling. We came to blows because he taught me this great stuff, but never gave me the chance to use it. Now I appreciate every bit of my freedom!!! Dad no longer controls my money, and instead of going to the beautiful summer house, I'm going to take a vacation in NYC!!!!!
2) Even though we were wealthy, Dad was always frugal. If he could get something nice at a garage sale, he would!!! I had a lot of second hand clothes growing up, but I learned how to appreciate them. To this day, I can't understand designer labels!!!
3) Dad was super-duper over-protectve. My sister rebelled, and hung with a bad crowd, but she came out of it OK in the end, and married a "regular nice boy." Know what I mean? Sweet guy, supportive, good family, good with money, respected her for who she was, didn't try to change her, and in time she came back from the brin of teenaged ruin on her own, with his support.
I'm 4 years younger, and believe me, after watching my sister, before she met her husband, I had no interested in dating, and this shot my standards TO THE MOON!!!
I watched closely when Dad would TRY to veto a friendship, or relationship. I observed their mannerisms, listened to the sound of their voices, and took mental notes. To this day I can tell a jackazz, just by the sound of his voice!!! I correctly predicted a psycho that my step-daughter dated. I corrected predicted the crap we would have to deal with from our neighbour, last year. Sadly my husband didn't listen to me either of those times. Had he listened, a lot of stuff wouldn't have happened!!! I learned this from DAD!!!!!! Now my husband believes me, after having seen me in action for a few years.
4) I learned how to EARN IT!!! Yes, I'm on disability, I'm on a low income, and I'm not "working" in the traditional sense, but I AM maintaining control over my life. Every thing I do myself, based on what I learned as a child, is a victory for me. I get extra money? I invest it, or save it. If you refer back to my vacation response discussion in which you very nicely enquired as to how I did it on a low income, I outlined my ENTIRE system, in my response to you. All that came from DAD!!! There was no room for entitlement in our family.
I EARNED that extra $200 a month that goes into my NYC account though on-line earnings, through saving, through frugal living, and I'm also working on putting money away for Hubby to get some new software, that he really really wants. He is not as good with money as I am, and I know I have Dad's control-freak ways inside of me, but I also know I'm 1/2 MOM too. Mom TALKS, and if Hubby and I need to figure out the money, we talk!!! I don't just yell at him about spending, we TALK. He doesn't yell at me about being cheap, WE TALK!!! Since I control the money, (mutual choice!) I make sure to listen to him.
Him: I'd really like to get the new MS Office.
ME: How much?
Him: about $700.
ME: OK. Give it a few months of me making sure to get money into your savings account, and it can be done!!!
Dad would have just gone hog-mad if he knew what it cost, because for HIM software wouldn't have been a prioriy.
Yes I'm being long-winded as hell on this topic, but it hit me very close to home. Maybe I need to open a brat-buster bootcamp!! I'd love to meet the girl in question, and totally "Dad" her into shape!!!! I'll use my father's values, but with my mother's touch (the part of me that is going to make sure Hubby gets the software!). Hey, he can use it for his writing. He loves his computer, and it's a real long-term thing he's going to use. Not stupid like a $400 designerpair of shoes, or a $1,500 handbag (step-daughter did that once, and got it LOST!!!).
Anyway, by now, you've probably gotten the gist of what I mean. I'm touch as nails, but I don't want to be a tyrant, even if my intentions are good ones. Brats need not apply, or I WILL bring out the Dad-whip. The more bratty the victim, the more "Dad" I'll be! :)
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
Yep she doesn't know how lucky she is to have had all the that, she had more in her teenage years than I had all my life. You did great Danish and dear ole dad.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 12
thanks DanishCanadian this is a great response I love the way you and your husband talk things over, not yell at each other, as thats how I and my husband did too, we had a problem we
talked it out, he made me pay the bills as I did a better job, but we talked things out without yelling at each other but both listening to each other . we had respect and love and trust
with each other,.so many couples just do not have these and they cannot communicate.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
15 Jul 12
yup they are. and then you have spoilt brats that have been on welfare all thier life a nephew of mine thinks the world owes him a living cause his parents had to go on welfare.
I felt so wanting to slap him when he sat inmy house and said his siters got all the advantage dont know how they rode a school bus to school got poked wihth needles and all mean things could do to other kids HE was drove to school every day by his dad.
all his siters work for whatthey now have oh not him like I said he thinks we owe him a living or his poor momma does HE hurts her to get her last $1. I cant od anythng but I do think he needs an atidude adjustment!
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
16 Jul 12
oh he definitely needs an attitude adjustment that is for sure. The world doesn't owe him anything and if he is 18 it is time for him to go out and make a living, true to do better than his parents, if he can, rather than sit around and complain.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Jul 12
Oh for goodness sake...who makes a kid a spoiled brat? She didn't do this to herself, the people who raised her did this to her. Where was her father in all this? This could be a confused kid who feels rejected and like she doesn't belong anywhere...who bothers to know how she feels?
Sounds like she has been given everything but what a child really needs. Kids need limits and discipline - was she given that? Was she given a secure home and family life where she felt loved and wanted? I don't know the answers but what you describe is someone given bribes to keep her out of the way and so she would not be a bother.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
21 Jul 12
she was not an abused child she was treated like a princess she was loved as much as any child could be. Her father was there for her until the divorce and the mother shut him out, when she was old enough she visited her family all the time.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 12
oh my G winterose I was thinking oh what a life she has had and oh what I would have felt had a parent or an U ncle p aid for trips all over the world. I wou ld have been so grateful and would feel I had the kindest U ncle o r parent in the world. I was raised
during the depressions and we made it do, used it up;, wore it
out or went with out. I learned to respect the cost of things
and appreciate the things that were giv en to m e, like my mom s'love and my deargrandpa richey. I learned at age 8 that myfather was an evil man, he molested me once,injured me took me to a hospital and told them I had been in a car wreck. he never tou hed me again but at least my mom who was in the hospital and I never told her.
I did not want to hurt her as she did not see the evil in him like
I did.oh he was very generous money wise and tried to buy my love back but I did not ever trust him again. he was also unfaithfu l to my mom and she never knew . I found out that I had two half sisters in the county and my dad had named them Patsie how dreadful as thats my name,.I was raised on a farm and grew to love farm life. I am sorry this young woman did not even begin to app reciate all that was done for her and given to her. thats so sad,.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
the same thing happened in my family.
My parents were not married I lived with my grandmother,
My mom had three girls, me, Linda, and Debbie
I won't even call the creep my father because he disowned me when I was 9
anyhow he married another woman and called his daughter Linda, can you imagine that he already had a Linda.
Then he called one of his sons Danny which was his sister's son's name, and the other Bobby which was is brothers name.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Hi Hatley,
You and I would appreciate such things because they were NOT handed to us our whole lives. This girl was handed everything on a silver spoon. It sounds like that in her mind, that is how it should be. I don't know. I am sure not saying that what the girl did is right but somewhere along the way, even though she was handed everything, it seems that something was missing in her life.
Hatley and Winter,
I'm so sorry that you had such monsters for sperm donors! I can't even imagine what that would be like as I had the most amazing father. As a woman, I very much know how important a dad is in a little girl's life or any child's for that matter. Very odd that they both are naming other offspring by names of children and family members that they already have.
@froggieslover (3069)
• United States
15 Jul 12
I agree with you on the whole kids now a days feels like they are owed something. Even as young kids when they are asked to do something they want to know what they will get return. My kids are 11 and 13 and when they have the nerve to ask something like that I told them I already paid you this month because i allowed you to eat here, use my electric for your TVs and my water for your showers. Of course they don't think that is funny but I am trying to even though it is so hard with this generation but I am trying to install some old morals and standards in them that I think is missing from this generation of kids. What I don't like is how kids talk back to the elders not only their parents but all elders. I am 30 and still would never think of talking back to my mother the way some of these kids do. So far my kids haven't given me any real problems, the most they do is fight with each other or not finish their chores but I can handle that, now I am sure as they get older more of the problems will come but I am hoping that with dad and I being together and on the same page on how to raise them that if and when the problems do arise we will be able to nip it in the butt before it gets out of control. I know my step daughter who is now 18 has a very bad case of spoiled brat.. her mother has full custody and we just have every other weekend which as she got older became less and less because she had her own things to do but her she was an only child for her mom for 11 years and never heard the word no very often so as she got older it made it real hard to get her to listen because she never had to before. We are pretty strict in our house and have rules that she doesnt like to follow. It was all alright until she hit 12 and it all seemed to change her attitude went down hill fast. Her and her mom fight all the time and she has stayed her twice but the last time she did was the worst she didn't like the rules and when we told her she had to obey them she had a complete fit and said some really nasty things to me and my husband, things that are hard to forget. She know lives with her mom even though she wanted to be emancipated and is into all the bad things that teens get into and thinks that everyone owes her an apology and has no right to tell her how to live. Someday she will have a rude awakening when she tries to go out in the world and the world doesn't hand them what they want. I think the best thing for the uncle to do is to take that money away if he hasn't already because she is old enough to care for herself and it is time to get her rude awakening.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
the uncle doesn't bother with her now since she totally ignored him after bumming the money to get to england and study at cambridge. He had his fill. She is 26 now and is getting married in August to a doctor and she is studying to be one herself.
You are doing a great job with your kids, I commend you.
The research is out there this is a big problem with Canadian and American families who over indulge.
@randylovesdar (4932)
• United States
14 Jul 12
If I had a family member who went out of their way to help me out I would feel like I owe them once I had a great job. I am sorry that T had never learned how to be grateful. I think the uncle is a great man for taking such great care of his niece because he did not have to do this, but rather he wanted to do this.
I have always worked hard for everything I wanted in my life. I attended college so late in life because I could not afford it and my parents could not help me. I am now working towards my second Master's Degree online and am still deciding if I want to pursue a PhD.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
14 Jul 12
she should be grateful, in comparison her brother has nothing. He works two jobs just to make ends meet.
I would be bend down and kiss my uncle's butt if he had done that for me.
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@NailTech (6874)
• United States
14 Jul 12
How sad indeed. I feel bad for the man who supported her and gave her so much and she never respected him in return. Maybe one day when she finally grows up she will have alot of experience in the world and start really thinking about all he did. It is a shame though to have someone spoiled that much that they seem to be entitled to everything. She should have never been treated like a queen, she got her way in the end first, by not living with her mother with rules though. I'm not blaming the mother, either. One day I hope this girl does see the light on how everyone was just trying to help her.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
14 Jul 12
she is a very intelligent girl and she has everyone eating out of her hands, very manipulative, and she had the Canadian authority eating out of hands as well.
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@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
no, not all are spoiled like that but i believe that due to broken marriages, many children are spoiled because one or both parents are trying to put money in to heal the hurt feelings. here in North America, i think that is the problem.
my hubby and i have been married for almost 25 years and both our teenaged daughters have friends where they can get mostly anything they want because they pit one parent against the other or they make the parent feel bad and get them to cater to the kids. perhaps the parents do let the kids have everything they want to assuage their guilt.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
I said in the first sentence that not all young people are spoiled, and they also come from two parent families where they have been indulged, not only broken families, T was spoiled from the day she was born they were a family then, lots of research in the area.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Wow! 14 yrs old and a curfew of 10pm??? The only time my girls got to stay out that late at that age was if it was a school dance or a movie with a group of friends or something. I didn't really have a curfew for them. The time they came in was dependent upon who they were with and what they were doing and just being out and about at night was not something they were allowed to do. They really never complained about that...it's just how it was. I kind of understand why the mother would let her go to a group home to hopefully appreciate how good she had it at home but honestly, I would never ever have given custody of my child to someone else. I actually don't feel sorry for the adults in this girls life whom she has hurt and that is not to say that she is right in being such a little jerk. She is not. Still...they are the ones that gave her everything she could want for and then some. Even the Uncle. They gave her "things" but no one took the time to teach her how to be responsible, independent or a good person.
I find these kind of stories so irritating because I know so many kids who fit this same profile. Not all, of course and not all kids that turn out bad are the fault of the parents but in this case and many others, it clearly is. We, humans are supposedly of superior intelligence to other animals, right? Other animals teach their babies to survive independently from them in way less than a year usually. We have 18 yrs to raise our young and STILL...we get kids like this??? The goal from birth should be to teach your kids how to be and how to survive...to grow up to be kind, humane and responsible adults. They are (or should be) our gift to society. Instead, all too many of them end up being a collective problem for society. And just what was the point in giving this girl to the Uncle to raise? So he could spoil her further and she could kick back and not be bothered with the results of what they were raising? 

@winterose (39887)
• Canada
16 Jul 12
this was a decision made with the court and the social service agency. It was the best option for T at the time. Her mother could not control her, her mother refused the father even visiting rights at the time. And the uncle was the best option he could provide a stable home.
She was not a bad child so being in the system would have been wrong.
She will always have the character of getting whatever she wants. She is also very intelligent and hardworking and is studying to be a doctor today and is about to get married to a doctor. She is 26 now.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
17 Jul 12
at the time the girl was very manupulative she made up lots of stories including stories about her mother. Her brother who lived in the same house said in court that none of the stories were true.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Oh I see. I was picturing one of those kids that also has no responsibility and feels the world owes them everything. At least this girl will have a decent job to help her provide her wants. Well, that just makes the story even sadder. See, here in the States, foster care is hard to come by so it is given to those who are either in abusive, neglectful homes or those in which the kid is getting into trouble and/or repeatedly running away.
Also, why wouldn't she allow her to see her father? Here in the States, living with the father, unless he had been abusive or was financially unable to care for her would have been the first option that the courts looked at. And visitation can't be denied unless for some reason the court feels the father is abusive, a flight risk or negligent. In most cases, they at least allow supervised visits.
At any rate....sad story. She sounds like she has a lot going for her despite the upbringing. Maybe she will humble as she gets older.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
15 Jul 12
The more I watch people today, the more I can see that, no matter how old the pampered person is, they are almost always ungrateful when everything they want and need is handed to them with no reciprocation expected. I've seen it with married couples, when one (especially when the one is the woman) does everything and allows the spouse to do nothing. The greedy, lazy spouse typically ends up leaving for someone else or he or she just cheats or does whatever they want with the hard-working spouse's money.
Naturally, this happens to kids who are not taught the value of hard work. When my kids were growing up, I gave them a list of household chores they could do to earn their allowance. They could earn nothing, a little or quite a large allowance every week, depending on which chores they wanted to do. The harder the chore, the more they earned. It taught them the value of hard work and the satisfaction of a job well done. It also showed them how to handle their money. If they wanted something special, they had to earn the money for it and realize that, if they spent all their money on one thing, they'd have nothing for anything else until they earned more. It think it worked well because they're both pretty responsible men today.
You said it all in that last sentence, "Spoiled brats are just ungrateful."
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
15 Jul 12
They should have to live lime the other half lives. They should have to pay their own way when they get so full of themselves. Spoiled brats are no good to anyone. Not even themselves. They think they are better than everyone else.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
the thing is she is very self sufficient as well, she is a hardworker and goes after what she wants. She is about to marry a doctor in August. She is 26 and studying to become a doctor herself.
@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
15 Jul 12
Yes winterrose, I agree with you...I think they really
have a hugh sense of entitlement...This story is a real
sad one because thats another person who will not fit
\well in everyday society once she gets out in the real
world..
even tho its your boyfriends daughter.. I hope she does
not make your life a living hell...lol
God luck....
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
15 Jul 12
actually she is the opposite, she is self centered but she fits well, she gets whatever she wants, she is 26 now and is marrying a doctor in August. She is also a hard worker herself and despite being spoiled she has always worked hard.
















