The Romney's Horse

@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
September 2, 2012 9:49am CST
Romney's Horse So the Romney’s are now called selfish for keeping a horse? And employing a groom with a family to support. And paying for feed that’s sold by someone with a family to support and transported in trucks by someone with a family to support ...and manufactured in a factory by people with families to support from stuff that’s grown by farmers with families to support. And having a barn built by construction workers with families to support with materials trucked by drivers with families to support from factories with workers with families to support. Sounds to me like that one horse has done more to put Americans to work than that horse’s @ss in the White House.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
3 Sep 12
I am not from the USA and quite frnakly, only knew about Mr. Romney recently as somewone who has so much money ourside of the USA. That is all I knew. Until he came to the U.K. Here, he showed an alarming amount of arrogance and contempt even stating that before the opening ceremony of the Olympic games that Britain was not ready and it proved to be one of the greatest Olympics ever held. Of course he had to back track and his people tried to do damage control but it did cause a mega upset so the press castigated him. Apart from that, I don't really know his policies but when I return home I will be listening and watching with great interest to see what kind of man he really is as I would hate him to lead the USA into another war. You are onviously a supporter and I respect your views. Blessings!
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
3 Sep 12
Cynthiann, do you deny that there were concerns about security at the Olympics and that those concerns were addressed in all the major newspapers and in the media on both sides of the Atlantic? And when asked about the Olympics, was it really so arrogant of Romney to say that he'd heard there were security issues and that was a concern? Come on, seriously? It's about being a bit too sensitive, I think. The press did castigate him, and Cameron and Johnson got off a few unseemly remarks themselves. But in the end, there were security issues, the security company couldn't supply the promised personnel. "LONDON—The head of Olympic security contractor G4S PLC told a panel of agitated British lawmakers that he only discovered his company would have problems delivering enough security guards on July 3, about three weeks before the event’s start. During a tense appearance before the Home Affairs Committee Tuesday, G4S Chief Executive Nick Buckles apologized for the company’s mishandling of the contract, which has forced the army and police to step in to fill the gap. He blamed the problems on scheduling systems that had failed to effectively register staff and acknowledged that his company’s reputation was in tatters." I guess it's like the wife who says "does this make my butt look big?". You damn well better not admit that it does. And when the security company is failing to meet its obligations for something as important as the Olympic games in a city that has already been the victim of terrorist attacks, you'd better not say that is a matter of concern. Otherwise, people will think your arrogant and contemptuous.
• United States
3 Sep 12
No, he was not showing arrogance and only those looking for him to be arrogant took it that way. Arrogance is Obama's bag. Rommey answered a question and he had the nerve to answer it honestly. He talked to UK leaders who said they didn't know if they were ready with the proper security measures, etc. There is no way to know whether something of the Olympics magnitude is ever fully prepared. The answers to his HONEST answer, which was based on the UK leaders' remarks was slung back at him by the press and those who had expressed doubts. He is not an arrogant man. He is a very modest man, who can be shy in personal situations, but tries to be as honest as is humanly possible when questioned. In business he shines. He is the type person who refused to take a salary as governor, who helps family, friends and strangers WITHOUT cameras filming it. He was the first to get to Isaac's victims because he thought them more important than the campaign; not so with our president. He waited two months to take care of the oil spill that almost destroyed our who southern coast and he's finally going to check out the flood victims today...maybe...if it doesn't interfere with his campaign, golfing, or partying. What I took from that particular situation was that no one really WANTS honesty; they prefer being fed pablum. So, because the people questioning him could not handle the truth (sound like a movie line?) he decided pablum was best. He's not in the habit of turning his back on our nations' friends. He would never send back a bust of Churchill to the queen or give her as their first traded gifts tapes of his own speeches on an IPOD that had the wrong voltage to work, or hug the queen when protocol says that's not proper. Our president and first lady do those things.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Thanks cythiann, I let these fine answers from Rollo and Maggie stand without comment. They express all there is to say on the matter.
• United States
2 Sep 12
who cares if romney has a horse? if that is all the "other side" has...then they are in trouble. This election needs to stop being able stupid crap and start being the real issues and track records of the candidates (all of them, just the big two). We need to be looking at each ones plans and see if they are good and feasable. Not worrying about how "out of touch" or who owns a horse, or which candidate likes which baseball team. getting side trapped by BS means people are not focusing on what is important.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Humor helps? As I see it, THIS is an issue, why? Obama is making this election about Romney being OUT OF TOUCH, Obama is making this about Romney being a 'rich guy'. Do you seriously think a liberal will come to my discussion if it is about how Obama has FAILED? NO, sometimes you have to get down to their level and 'speak' to their concerns, which at the moment is 'Romney's out of touch' and 'Romney is a rich guy' who cares little for Americans.
• United States
2 Sep 12
If thats Obama's plan it will backfire. In this country we dont look down on people for being successful. This is the land of opportunity. people can start with nothing and end up rich if they are smart and work hard. Obama better be careful how he does that tatic...last time i checked he was very rich himself. so i guess that makes him out of touch too huh?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
EXACTLY.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
2 Sep 12
You know, I heard something on the radio that really brought back some memories. I was listening to Neal Boortz (love that guy!) and he mentioned that when people used to see a prosperous man driving down the street they'd tell their kids that they could be that guy someday if they worked hard. These days they spit on the sidewalk and tell their children those people are evil. Those wealthy guys create the jobs and fuel the engine of our economy but now we are supposed to hate and envy their success? This is what class warfare does. When you succeed now you are expected to apologize and give it all away to the government. My mother used to tell me that a person is entitled to everything they can earn and I believe that. The Romney family is entitled to that horse and anything else they want to spend their money on. Particularly since they have no guilty consciences about how much they give to charity. Compare their donations to other politicians--nobody can argue with those figures. This just really ticks me off. I wish I could make everyone in the country live for a month without any wealthy residents. See how much they'd like it then. They'd be screaming for the rich to return.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
http://blackhawkpartners.com/blog.aspx?id=42 [i]Socialist regimes try to guarantee the value of things rather than the ownership of them. Thus socialism tends to destroy the value, which depends on dedicated ownership. In the United States, on the other hand, the government normally guarantees only the right to property, not the worth of it. The belief that wealth consists not in ideas, attitudes, moral codes, and mental disciplines but in definable and static things that can be seized and redistributed is the materialist superstition. It stultified the works of Marx and other prophets of violence and envy. It betrays every person who seeks to redistribute wealth by coercion. It balks every socialist revolutionary who imagines that by seizing the so-called means of production he can capture the crucial capital of an economy. It baffles nearly all conglomerateurs, who believe they can safely enter new industries by buying rather than by learning them. Capitalist means of production are not land, labor, or capital but minds and hearts. The wealth of America isn't an inventory of goods; it's an organic, living entity, a fragile, pulsing fabric of ideas, expectations, loyalties, moral commitments, visions, and people. To vivisect it for redistribution would eventually kill it. As Mitterrand's French technocrats found early in the 1980s, the proud new socialist owners of complex systems of wealth soon learn they are administering an industrial corpse rather than a growing corporation. That is why the single most important economic issue of our time – and one that impacts the poor and middle class alike – will be how we treat the very rich among us.[/i]
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Compare with this from SocialistWorker.org [i]Even those workers lucky enough to make a comfortable living from their wages are only employed because their labor, together with other workers, ultimately produces returns--or profits--for the capitalists. So "creating" jobs is hardly a charitable act. This is the most basic reason that the property and money of capitalists isn't really "theirs." It was produced by workers in the first place. THE CAPITALIST class earns profits because it owns and controls what Karl Marx called the means of production--from the factories, offices and stores, to the machines and technology, to the land and raw materials. The system of private property is the legal means for the tiny minority to ensure that it controls what is produced using the means of production, not the majority that does the work. More than being in a position to steal a portion of the workers' labor through profits, the capitalists are also able to dictate how and what is produced.[/i]
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
What is 'labor'? When we labor, we are given wages. Our labor is a commodity. We can sell it to the highest bidder on the job market. When we do this, we trade that labor for wages, money. It is ours no longer. It is the same with ideas. EXCEPT for one thing, a person with an idea can create something from that idea and sell it. Some folks don't (and I am not being mean) have saleable ideas. Many do, and they start businesses. Create jobs, and take risks that that idea will be useful and saleable.
• United States
4 Sep 12
Actually, I am surprised that you right winger spending hawks didn't question Romney about this when his horse was in the Olympics. This isn't just a horse, this is a $150,000 horse who competed in the Olympics, and who's owner just happened to be in Europe at the same time with tax payer money going to secret service. I wonder how much it cost the American people for Mitt to go see his horse in London? Funny how your right winger want to question the spending of others, but ignore that of your own party. But, what should we expect?
• United States
7 Sep 12
Funny how no one wants to question the tax payer dollar spent on Romney, but they want to bash Michelle Obama. I am sure that has nothing to do with their political party!!!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
7 Sep 12
Because the secret service protection was given to HIM not his horse and ok'd obviously by the current administration. And us right wingers don't think it is our right or our place to despise someone for their sucess. And Michelle Obama is SPENDING TAX PAYERS MONEY, not her own.
@lawdude (237)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Who said the Romneys are selfish for having a horse? Horseshit from them and you. Not an intellectually stirring debate. I love horses but am less cool toward the Romneys. I guess opinions matter in an election year, as does horseshit.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
3 Sep 12
Such a funny response. I am surprised that your language was not censored
@lawdude (237)
• United States
4 Sep 12
Touche. Keep up the good work.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
The MSM has decided Romney and his wife are 'out of touch' with us folks who cannot afford a horse. The Democrat campaign has pushed this 'out of touch' meme as well. Sorry you did not find it 'stirring'. So much of what the liberals are pushing isn't. I felt the need to bring the stupidity of their thinking to light. I'm with cynthiann, someone must be asleep at the wheel at headquarters.
@koopharper (7477)
• Canada
2 Sep 12
Romney has a horse? That's cool I would hardly hold that against him. If not for social services deciding we couldn't live off grid they way were doing we might have one too. One of the locals raised horses and promised to give one to my daughter. All his horses were beautiful chestnut and white paints. Long sad frustrating story. A French Canadian woman once said something to me that I found to be profound. Our separatists often cry that the English came and took all their money. She answered with "What money?" The truth is the English came here and invested and created the value. The average French Canadian was dirt poor from the start. Incidentally the Parti Quebecois is deeply socialist.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
The Romney's have the horse because riding is therapy for Ann, who has MS.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
2 Sep 12
How true... not much else to say!
@GardenGerty (157622)
• United States
2 Sep 12
People seldom look at the big picture, and I like your last line. I really do not think it is any more selfish to keep a horse than a dog, or rabbit or any other pet.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
And that pretty much sums up to what depths the Obama campaign is willing to sink to to discredit their opponent. They talk about the Romney/Ryan plan and why it is so wrong for America, and offer only what has been shown (by economy and history) not to work, same ol'same ol' as we say here in the Ozarks.
• United States
3 Sep 12
If I had the money I would hire a lot of people to do a lot of things for me. Id love to never wear a pair of socks twice. Id love to have my laundry magically done by a woman who needed the money to feed her family. Its not our say to tell people what to do with their money. I am so glad my hubby isnt up there running. I would hate all that scrutiny.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Me too!
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
3 Sep 12
You know, I didn't have a horse. But the girl who lived on the next street did. Her father built her a stable and got her a horse. She let me ride it once. I wished that I had a horse when I was a kid, but I never realized before that I didn't have one because she did! How simple it all becomes. I realize now that I was being oppressed by the neighbors, who had toys I didn't have and better bicycles and even better roller skates. If I had figured out way back then that I was supposed to hate my friends for having better stuff, I could have been a socialist by now.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
ME TOO! We were so oppressed.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
2 Sep 12
So Mitt Romney is selfish because he bought his wife a horse to relieve her suffering that comes from having multiple sclerosis. Yes indeed, what a selfish insensitive man. I suppose next they'll be complaining because he paid for her cancer treatment.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Sep 12
With private insurance!
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
3 Sep 12
The Romneys have the money so they can afford a horse. So what is the big deal? Her name is Rafalca and is a 15 year old Oldenburg mare. Her dressage rider is Jan Ebeling. She as you know competetd at the summer games in dressage London. Rafalca didn't medel. None of the Americans did in the equestion sports! So I see nothing wrong with it! If I had that kind of money I would do the same thing!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Thank you blue65packer, I see you have not fallen for the 'us against them' mentality as many others have.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
2 Sep 12
Cute!
3 Sep 12
The fact is that Romney is rolling in it and keeping a horse is probably one of the least selfish things on the list of materialistic things that rule his and most other Westerners lives - me included. The fact is that most people that have high paying jobs and live in nice houses and nice cars and wear brand name clothes have an element of selfishness that they justify because they have "worked" for it. The fact that the majority of the World works harder for much much less seems to have no impact on them, us, me!!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Sep 12
Which is why I say, life is not fair, deal with it. The role of government is to ensure that each American has equal opportunity to succeed in life, to pursue their happiness. It is NOT the role of government to ensure that all have equal success at doing so. It is a sad fact that many do not have equal opportunity, and the government insures they don't, by denying such things as school vouchers because the government favors the unions who don't want competition for their teachers.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Oct 12
And the amount of giving that Romney does, the help he give to those less fortunate is stagering. He takes his responsibility as his brother's keeper very seriously.
• United States
2 Sep 12
Oh so VERY well said!